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Postby Grays Harbor » Sun Sep 27, 2015 1:40 am

Fight Fire with Fire

A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.


Category: International Security

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Rhino Region

Description: The world ain't safe, crime and terror rule the world, so police and military budgets must be boostedto the max.

Doesn't do anything.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Sun Sep 27, 2015 5:20 am

Grays Harbor wrote:
Fight Fire with Fire

A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.


Category: International Security

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Rhino Region

Description: The world ain't safe, crime and terror rule the world, so police and military budgets must be boostedto the max.

Doesn't do anything.

Doesn't do anything to the max. ;)

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Postby Jute » Sun Sep 27, 2015 6:22 am

World against Cancer

A resolution to modify universal standards of healthcare.


Category: Health


Area of Effect: Healthcare


Proposed by: Grande Imperio do Brasil

Description: Cancer is a problem in all World, and we must increase the investiment in Healthcare
We must be united against Cancer.

Democrats ,Republicans, Communists,Socialists,and even Fascists must stand against this evil,because this problem dont have ideology

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 76 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 2 hours


Yeah, this one doesn't do anything. No operative clauses.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Sun Sep 27, 2015 6:37 am

Is there a student region submitting these? Is that what's happening here?

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Postby Wallenburg » Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:55 am

Separatist Peoples wrote:Is there a student region submitting these? Is that what's happening here?

You'd think the teacher would know better, though.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:35 am

Freedom is free for all

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Neversurrender

Description: The Absolute Freedom should be free to propagate itself with total freedom of action; be it trade, reason or presuasion forcible or not.
Everyone should be free to accept it or not.

Holy crap on a cracker ...

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Postby Wallenburg » Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:38 am

Grays Harbor wrote:
Freedom is free for all

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Neversurrender

Description: The Absolute Freedom should be free to propagate itself with total freedom of action; be it trade, reason or presuasion forcible or not.
Everyone should be free to accept it or not.

Holy crap on a cracker ...

:blink:

I don't understand the language this proposal is written in.
I want to improve.
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Ferret Civilization
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Postby Ferret Civilization » Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:48 am

Grays Harbor wrote:
Freedom is free for all

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Neversurrender

Description: The Absolute Freedom should be free to propagate itself with total freedom of action; be it trade, reason or presuasion forcible or not.
Everyone should be free to accept it or not.

Holy crap on a cracker ...

:blink:
Did that just say everyone has the right to be free, unless they don't want to be... And if not to force it on them, but still give them the right to say no...

What does that even do!?
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Postby Grays Harbor » Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:50 am

Ferret Civilization wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:
Freedom is free for all

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Neversurrender

Description: The Absolute Freedom should be free to propagate itself with total freedom of action; be it trade, reason or presuasion forcible or not.
Everyone should be free to accept it or not.

Holy crap on a cracker ...

:blink:
Did that just say everyone has the right to be free, unless they don't want to be... And if not to force it on them, but still give them the right to say no...

What does that even do!?

It doesn't do fuckall except waste space in the proposal queue.
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Postby Renewed Dissonance » Sun Sep 27, 2015 1:53 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:Is there a student region submitting these? Is that what's happening here?

You'd think the teacher would know better, though.


Use of the forums might be discouraged by class regions. Especially if students are under the age of 13; NationStates is not hosted in the United States, but, according to its privacy policy, seeks to comply with OPPA, CalOPPA and the like anyway. For instance, I understand that class region nations can join the WA without providing an e-mail address. So, the forum-based process of drafting/debate is either unknown or unavailable to them.

At any rate, based on my experience with university students, if students can be bothered to participate to any extent in anything at all, you're probably more than happy.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Sun Sep 27, 2015 2:44 pm

Repeal "Minimum Standard of Living Act"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#344

Proposed by: Empire of the United Kingdom

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #344: Minimum Standard of Living Act (Category: Social Justice; Strength: Strong) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: Nations should be able to decide whether they want their nation to have a standardised living arrangement. At least do a re-run of this.

Translation: "waaah. I don't like this, open voting back up!"
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Sep 27, 2015 2:47 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:
Repeal "Minimum Standard of Living Act"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#344

Proposed by: Empire of the United Kingdom

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #344: Minimum Standard of Living Act (Category: Social Justice; Strength: Strong) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: Nations should be able to decide whether they want their nation to have a standardised living arrangement. At least do a re-run of this.

Translation: "waaah. I don't like this, open voting back up!"

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Postby Wallenburg » Sun Sep 27, 2015 2:51 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:
Repeal "Minimum Standard of Living Act"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#344

Proposed by: Empire of the United Kingdom

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #344: Minimum Standard of Living Act (Category: Social Justice; Strength: Strong) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: Nations should be able to decide whether they want their nation to have a standardised living arrangement. At least do a re-run of this.

Translation: "waaah. I don't like this, open voting back up!"

What's funny is that the current resolution doesn't mandate standardized living. I imagine he means minimum standards, but even that would be dishonest, since the 'opt-out' clause allow them to decide whether to comply.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Sun Sep 27, 2015 4:50 pm

Write Detailed Resolutions Act

A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.


Category: Furtherment of Democracy

Strength: Mild

Proposed by: Nuevo Sealandia

Description: When it becomes necessary for one nation to request something of other nations, the delegates from this nation should respect other nations' intellectual curiosity, as voting bodies, to know just what the resolution does. For this, obviously, a two-line rant about freedom of religion simply will not do. What does the resolution regulate? Who, specifically, does it affect? What will nations following it look like, and how will it have changed them, say, five years after the passage of said resolution?

For this reason, it is obvious that some guidelines must be imposed upon resolutions written for the review of this august Assembly. They should be written in clear, relatively error-free, and formal English, they should be sufficiently long to explain the aims of the resolution, they should include a full list of definitions clarifying of what the resolution speaks, and they should include a full list of requirements imposed upon nations following the resolution. For this reason, I believe it necessary that guidelines should be imposed upon resolutions.

Definitions:
Clear: A clear resolution does not provoke confusion among its readers. It should not include run-on sentences, sentence fragments, or txtspeak.
Error-free: Following the rules of English grammar to the furthest possible extent, given the author's exposure to the language.
Formal: Avoiding use of slang or figures of speech.
English: A Germanic language originating in Saxony. The most common language on Earth. Non-formal English includes, for the purpose of this resolution, slang and words from other languages.
Definitions: As words have different meanings for different readers (especially English words), resolutions should define any words that could possibly provoke confusion or misunderstandings. So one could use a vague word ("bad"), but would have to include a definition ("rotten or spoiled"). This definition tells readers what the word is used to signify. Excessive use of definitions (such that the resolution is written in code) should be avoided.
Sufficient Length: The resolution should avoid abbreviating its aims and/or its list of definitions, for the sake of clarity.

Requirements upon Nations
1. Nations must write their resolutions in clear, error-free, formal English.
2. The resolution must be of sufficient length.
3. The resolution must include a full list of definitions of all questionable/confusing terms.
4. The resolution must explain the requirements it will put upon nations.

This resolution strongly urges all WA members not to endorse/vote for resolutions not in accordance with these guidelines, as these resolutions may include loopholes and/or flaws in the language that allow for unintended results (in a short enough resolution, a double negative could reverse its results, for example - from gay marriage being legalized to gay marriage being banned). This resolution also hopes that faulty resolutions such as these will not be proposed in the first place, as they clutter the World Assembly floor and will not be passed.

Not sure about this one. Some of it might work as part of "Rules & Guidelines", but a semi-bloggy proposal? Not likely.
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Postby Wallenburg » Sun Sep 27, 2015 5:53 pm

The Flare Police Worldwide Act

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights

Strength: Significant

Proposed by: Shazamland

Description: From now on, the people of the world shall be protected by the flare police and their glorious flares. They shall travel the world establishinh small communities of Flare police deputies to protect their region.

Approvals: 1 (Shazamland)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 75 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 3 hours

Guys, this is so funny I have to endorse it.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Sun Sep 27, 2015 6:34 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
The Flare Police Worldwide Act

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights

Strength: Significant

Proposed by: Shazamland

Description: From now on, the people of the world shall be protected by the flare police and their glorious flares. They shall travel the world establishinh small communities of Flare police deputies to protect their region.

Approvals: 1 (Shazamland)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 75 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 3 hours

Guys, this is so funny I have to endorse it.

I pretty much stopped being amused by these crap proposals on page one, but that's just me.
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Postby The Candy Of Bottles » Sun Sep 27, 2015 7:35 pm

The Pandarian Order wrote:Acknowledging that the moon has turned blood red and then disappeared,
Inferring that in order to get it back we have to give it blood,

The GA hereby declares that:
1. ALL WA states must sacrifice one(1) virgin, whose blood has to be smeared on a wheel of cheese (as we all know cheese is directly related to the moon)
2. The bloodied cheese must be placed in a pond (it is known that the moon always shows up in the pond, so placing the cheese is the reflection to be cast upon the sky, thus summoning the moon to return)
3. Failure is not tolerated. The moon must return!

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Postby Grays Harbor » Mon Sep 28, 2015 1:38 am

Minimum level of Police force

A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.


Category: International Security

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Whipping nae nae

Description: Each nation of the WA has to spend atleast 0.5% of GDP on law enforcement agencies and atleast 1% of the total population must be part of law enforcement agencies. This will ensure lasting peace in the world.

Nope
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Postby Grays Harbor » Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:13 pm

Free Passage Act

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights

Strength: Significant

Proposed by: Catanthia

Description: The WA hereby addresses free passage of people between two countries.

I. People hereby have the right to free passage into any peaceful country they wish to enter.

II. Hereby allowing migrants and refugees to cross over into neutral territory during oppressive conditions and war times.

III. Allowing freer commerce along may highways and railways across regions.

This Act hereby decrees that every sovereign nation in the WA shall decree safe and rightful passage to each and every citizen wishing passage over any land they wish

WTF? Umm, no.
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Herby
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Postby Herby » Tue Sep 29, 2015 4:57 am

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Anti-Contraceptives Bill

A resolution to restrict civil freedoms in the interest of moral decency.

Category: Moral Decency

Strength: Significant

Proposed by: Commonwealth of K

Description: This bill prohibits the use of any artificial family planning techniques for it is against the will of God to give us children.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 76 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 4 hours

I... ummm.... Okay, aside from the obvious. It's "against the will of God to give us children"? Then... I mean... how....
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Postby Bears Armed » Tue Sep 29, 2015 9:31 am

Grays Harbor wrote:
Write Detailed Resolutions Act

A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.


Category: Furtherment of Democracy

Strength: Mild

Proposed by: Nuevo Sealandia

Description: When it becomes necessary for one nation to request something of other nations, the delegates from this nation should respect other nations' intellectual curiosity, as voting bodies, to know just what the resolution does. For this, obviously, a two-line rant about freedom of religion simply will not do. What does the resolution regulate? Who, specifically, does it affect? What will nations following it look like, and how will it have changed them, say, five years after the passage of said resolution?

For this reason, it is obvious that some guidelines must be imposed upon resolutions written for the review of this august Assembly. They should be written in clear, relatively error-free, and formal English, they should be sufficiently long to explain the aims of the resolution, they should include a full list of definitions clarifying of what the resolution speaks, and they should include a full list of requirements imposed upon nations following the resolution. For this reason, I believe it necessary that guidelines should be imposed upon resolutions.

Definitions:
Clear: A clear resolution does not provoke confusion among its readers. It should not include run-on sentences, sentence fragments, or txtspeak.
Error-free: Following the rules of English grammar to the furthest possible extent, given the author's exposure to the language.
Formal: Avoiding use of slang or figures of speech.
English: A Germanic language originating in Saxony. The most common language on Earth. Non-formal English includes, for the purpose of this resolution, slang and words from other languages.
Definitions: As words have different meanings for different readers (especially English words), resolutions should define any words that could possibly provoke confusion or misunderstandings. So one could use a vague word ("bad"), but would have to include a definition ("rotten or spoiled"). This definition tells readers what the word is used to signify. Excessive use of definitions (such that the resolution is written in code) should be avoided.
Sufficient Length: The resolution should avoid abbreviating its aims and/or its list of definitions, for the sake of clarity.


Requirements upon Nations
1. Nations must write their resolutions in clear, error-free, formal English.
2. The resolution must be of sufficient length.
3. The resolution must include a full list of definitions of all questionable/confusing terms.
4. The resolution must explain the requirements it will put upon nations.

This resolution strongly urges all WA members not to endorse/vote for resolutions not in accordance with these guidelines, as these resolutions may include loopholes and/or flaws in the language that allow for unintended results (in a short enough resolution, a double negative could reverse its results, for example - from gay marriage being legalized to gay marriage being banned). This resolution also hopes that faulty resolutions such as these will not be proposed in the first place, as they clutter the World Assembly floor and will not be passed.

Not sure about this one. Some of it might work as part of "Rules & Guidelines", but a semi-bloggy proposal? Not likely.

Even if the author didn't realise that there's a game-set maximum length for proposals, illegal because its passage would require a change to Game Mechanics?

Grays Harbor wrote:
Minimum level of Police force

A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.

Category: International Security

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Whipping nae nae

Description: Each nation of the WA has to spend at least 0.5% of GDP on law enforcement agencies and at least 1% of the total population must be part of law enforcement agencies. This will ensure lasting peace in the world.

Nope

Game Mechanics, again...
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:37 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:
Minimum level of Police force

A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.


Category: International Security

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Whipping nae nae

Description: Each nation of the WA has to spend atleast 0.5% of GDP on law enforcement agencies and atleast 1% of the total population must be part of law enforcement agencies. This will ensure lasting peace in the world.

Nope

If people passed National Economic Liberties, this would be illegal for contradiction. I, however, don't buy Bears Armed argument that imposing this GDP fiat would be a game mechanics violation.

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:46 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:
Minimum level of Police force

A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.


Category: International Security

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Whipping nae nae

Description: Each nation of the WA has to spend atleast 0.5% of GDP on law enforcement agencies and atleast 1% of the total population must be part of law enforcement agencies. This will ensure lasting peace in the world.

Nope

If people passed National Economic Liberties, this would be illegal for contradiction. I, however, don't buy Bears Armed argument that imposing this GDP fiat would be a game mechanics violation.

A rough calculation puts that at 6 trillion greenbacks, or about 8 trillion bucks and 70 million cops for me. Holy mother of god.
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Postby John Turner » Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:48 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Imperium Anglorum wrote:If people passed National Economic Liberties, this would be illegal for contradiction. I, however, don't buy Bears Armed argument that imposing this GDP fiat would be a game mechanics violation.

A rough calculation puts that at 6 trillion greenbacks, or about 8 trillion bucks and 70 million cops for me. Holy mother of god.


Doesn't say they have to be payed full-time members though. Just deputize Boy Scouts and crossing guards and you'll be in full compliance. 8)
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