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Enn
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Postby Enn » Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:51 pm

Condemn Mary Queen of Scotts
A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.

Category: Social Justice
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Yuuu

Description: Mary Queen of Scotts, wa delegate of Clan Gordon,
must be condemned. Recognizing that she has ejected people in her region just because they spoke out against what they believed. Recognizing that she has declared war against an innocent region. She must be condemned.

Wrong category; wrong part of the WA.
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A mean old man
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Postby A mean old man » Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:03 pm

Enn wrote:
Condemn Mary Queen of Scotts
A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.

Category: Social Justice
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Yuuu

Description: Mary Queen of Scotts, wa delegate of Clan Gordon,
must be condemned. Recognizing that she has ejected people in her region just because they spoke out against what they believed. Recognizing that she has declared war against an innocent region. She must be condemned.

Wrong category; wrong part of the WA.

Not to mention just plain stupid.

EDIT: Or "Bloody stupid."
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:38 pm

He did it again!

Condem Mary Queen of Scots
A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.


Category: Social Justice
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Inherentjoydom

Description: 1 Unfair ejection.
2 Illegal means of holding power.
3 Ruddness.

Approvals: 1 (Inherentjoydom)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 55 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days, 1 hour


Will the WA consider ejection?

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The Emmerian Unions
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Postby The Emmerian Unions » Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:07 pm

The Republic of Lanos wrote:He did it again!

Condem Mary Queen of Scots
A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.


Category: Social Justice
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Inherentjoydom

Description: 1 Unfair ejection.
2 Illegal means of holding power.
3 Ruddness.

Approvals: 1 (Inherentjoydom)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 55 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days, 1 hour


Will the WA consider ejection?


What the frak is ruddness?
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Postby Allrule » Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:09 pm

The Emmerian Unions wrote:
The Republic of Lanos wrote:He did it again!

Condem Mary Queen of Scots
A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.


Category: Social Justice
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Inherentjoydom

Description: 1 Unfair ejection.
2 Illegal means of holding power.
3 Ruddness.

Approvals: 1 (Inherentjoydom)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 55 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days, 1 hour


Will the WA consider ejection?


What the frak is ruddness?

The aura of Kevin Rudd?
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Postby Grays Harbor » Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:57 pm

ruddy faced?

I know it used to be "2 bloody stupid proposals, and you were out of the NSUN." Not sure what the current policy is.
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Braakland
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Postby Braakland » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:37 am

The Taxation Reform

A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.

Category: Furtherment of Democracy

Strength: Significant

Proposed by: FlagPrestiteria


Description: NOTING that tax is unfair for the the poor and is too less for the rich who have the most money to pay their taxes.

SUGGESTING anyone who has an annual income of 60,000 US Dollars or less should have a 2% tax decrease.

SUGGESTING anyone who has an annual income of 200,000 US Dollars or more should have a 3.6% tax increase.

ANNOUNCING that taxing the rich more would bring in more revenue from those who can pay their taxes on time and in full.

ANNOUNCING that taxing the poor would bring in less revenue because they may not be able to pay their taxes in full and on time.

FURTHERING the growth of the poor to give them the ability to live a better life.

FURTHERING the growth of banks from poor being able to pay off loans with their new found wealth stimulating the economy.


Just testing out my knowledge of what is illegal - I believe that includes wrong category (Furtherment of democracy for an economic 'reform'), basing an argument on real world things (US dollars), failing to have any active clause in the resolution (furthering the growth of the poor? Further than what? How?), and possibly attempting to set a world tax rate (although it was just a suggestion...)

And writing illegible sentences ( is too less for the rich?)

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The Emmerian Unions
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Postby The Emmerian Unions » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:59 am

Braakland wrote:
The Taxation Reform

A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.

Category: Furtherment of Democracy

Strength: Significant

Proposed by: FlagPrestiteria


Description: NOTING that tax is unfair for the the poor and is too less for the rich who have the most money to pay their taxes.

SUGGESTING anyone who has an annual income of 60,000 US Dollars or less should have a 2% tax decrease.

SUGGESTING anyone who has an annual income of 200,000 US Dollars or more should have a 3.6% tax increase.

ANNOUNCING that taxing the rich more would bring in more revenue from those who can pay their taxes on time and in full.

ANNOUNCING that taxing the poor would bring in less revenue because they may not be able to pay their taxes in full and on time.

FURTHERING the growth of the poor to give them the ability to live a better life.

FURTHERING the growth of banks from poor being able to pay off loans with their new found wealth stimulating the economy.


Just testing out my knowledge of what is illegal - I believe that includes wrong category (Furtherment of democracy for an economic 'reform'), basing an argument on real world things (US dollars), failing to have any active clause in the resolution (furthering the growth of the poor? Further than what? How?), and possibly attempting to set a world tax rate (although it was just a suggestion...)

And writing illegible sentences ( is too less for the rich?)


You are correct, except for the last bit. There isn't a spot where there is an attempt to set a world tax rate. However: Tax decraces and Tax increases are still Game mechanics violations.
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The Cake is a lie!
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STOP AMERICAN IMPERIALISM? America is ANTI-IMPERIAL!
Ifreann wrote:"And in world news, the United States has recently elected Bill Gates as God Emperor For All Time. Foreign commentators believe that Gates' personal fortune may have played a role in his victory, but criticism from the United States of Gates(as it is now known) has been sparse and brief."
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Charlotte Ryberg
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:49 am

US Dollars are itself RL references, thereby making the proposal violate Real life reference rules. Also, it is not possible to have fixed tax rate changes as they are already built in to the categories where appropriate.

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Charlotte Ryberg
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:54 am

World Champion Games

Category: Furtherment of Democracy
Strength: Mild
Proposed by: FlagEhineland

Description: A movement to intoduce the idea of a world game tournement every year to promote peace, a comptitive spirt, and unite nations and reigons.

Doesn't have anything to implement and would have itself forced roleplay.
Anthem

Category: Education and Creativity
Area of Effect: Cultural Heritage
Proposed by: Alpha-land

Description: my people belive we should have the option to creat a national anthem, so whoever agrees with me speak up

Game mechanics.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:10 am

Vote out the head of the WA
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Sirus the Great

Description: Lately, resolutions have complete waste of time; let's impeach the head of the WA with a vote of no confidence! Change in another head of the WA so we're not plagued by these pointless resolutions anymore. All the countries shouldn't have to suffer from politics at the top and stupidity that should be limited to blogs; the time for resignaton has long since passed: we must act!


We were quite unaware that there was a "Head of the WA"

does this fall under my new favorite category of "bloody stupid"? :D
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Postby Grays Harbor » Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:11 am

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:
Anthem

Category: Education and Creativity
Area of Effect: Cultural Heritage
Proposed by: Alpha-land

Description: my people belive we should have the option to creat a national anthem, so whoever agrees with me speak up

Game mechanics.


And quite purposeless to boot.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Wed Dec 09, 2009 12:44 pm

Join my region
A resolution to restrict political freedoms in the interest of law and order.


Category: Political Stability
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Alpha-land

Description: hey are you sick of you region than just join mine and you'll not be treated like a douche-bag p.s first to join my nation will be made delegate

Approvals: 0


proposals as a recruiting tool now? give me a break. :palm:
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Charlotte Ryberg
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Wed Dec 09, 2009 12:55 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:
Vote out the head of the WA
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Sirus the Great

Description: Lately, resolutions have complete waste of time; let's impeach the head of the WA with a vote of no confidence! Change in another head of the WA so we're not plagued by these pointless resolutions anymore. All the countries shouldn't have to suffer from politics at the top and stupidity that should be limited to blogs; the time for resignaton has long since passed: we must act!


We were quite unaware that there was a "Head of the WA"

does this fall under my new favorite category of "bloody stupid"? :D

Catherine Gratwick, it used to be, but it seems Ms. Sarah Harper is well... gaining some ground. :unsure:

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Postby Free Hawaii » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:10 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:
Join my region
A resolution to restrict political freedoms in the interest of law and order.


Category: Political Stability
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Alpha-land

Description: hey are you sick of you region than just join mine and you'll not be treated like a douche-bag p.s first to join my nation will be made delegate

Approvals: 0


proposals as a recruiting tool now? give me a break. :palm:


isn't this illegal?
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Postby Philimbesi » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:12 pm

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The Unified States Of Philimbesi
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Postby Grays Harbor » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:33 pm

so...I guess thats a "yes" to FH's question? :lol:
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Postby Flibbleites » Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:49 pm

Animal Protection
A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.


Category: Environmental

Industry Affected: Woodchipping

Proposed by: Ramengakure

Description: Defining an endangered species as an animal with a world-wide population of less than 1,000
Proposing that all endangered species are protected under the WA, and that any attempt to harm, buy, sell or capture endangered species for any reason other than for their protection should be met with a suitable sentence.
Further proposing that a project for the preservation of the said endangered species should be established
Illegal, Duplication.

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Postby Grays Harbor » Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:52 pm

Kinda makes you wonder if some folk even bother reading what resolutions are already in effect before they put their stuff up.
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Postby Flibbleites » Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:55 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:Kinda makes you wonder if some folk even bother reading what resolutions are already in effect before they put their stuff up.

I don't have to wonder, I've been here long enough to know that most people don't do that.

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Charlotte Ryberg
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:15 pm

House Act

Category: Moral Decency
Strength: Mild
Proposed by: Carnoly

Description: REALIZING that everybody needs a house

HELPING those without the money for a house

PROPOSING that the it be illegal that goverment officials refuse financial help to people that are trying to buy a house

But that's Social Justice, wrong category.

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Postby Grays Harbor » Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:16 pm

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:
House Act

Category: Moral Decency
Strength: Mild
Proposed by: Carnoly

Description: REALIZING that everybody needs a house

HELPING those without the money for a house

PROPOSING that the it be illegal that goverment officials refuse financial help to people that are trying to buy a house

But that's Social Justice, wrong category.


I was more thinking either "bloody stupid" or "lets see if we can bankrupt every nation in the WA"
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Postby Flibbleites » Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:22 pm

Right to Bear Arms
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Joshuahood

Description: REALIZING that the world is a dangerous place, full of people or animals who wish to kill or harm innocent people,

RECOGNIZING that these innocent people sometimes do not have anything to defend themselves with, often because it is against their nation's laws to own a weapon, resulting in the innocent's death or injury,

FUTURE REALIZING that in order to fix this problem, people should have the right to bear arms,

DEFINING arms as any weapon that can hurt or kill, such as a gun or a knife,

ASSERTING that these arms can be used to defend against attack, or to hunt, or any other manner of ways these arms may be practicably used,

FURTHER ASSERTING that these arms may be carried by citizens out in the open, so long as they do not use it in a threatening or violent manner,

AFFIRMING that the punishment for using arms in a violent way, such as homicide or breach of the peace, shall be decided by the nation 's government in which the crime was committed.
Illegal, wrong category.

Communication Restriction
A resolution to restrict civil freedoms in the interest of moral decency.


Category: Moral Decency

Strength: Significant

Proposed by: Slovenion

Description: The World Assembly enacts this resolution to improve our restrictions on certain communications. It enforces new moral conduct for all nations to follow.

1. Any foul language submitted to a nation will lead the sender to be punished with banning from sender's communications for a week to a month.

2. Insulting a nation or region without a declaration of war will be punished with a ban on communications for one month to three months. To insult is to be offensive in general.
I'm not sure, but this sounds like they're trying to create rules for the game via WA resolution and that don't fly.

Health care
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights

Strength: Significant

Proposed by: Stephenn

Description: everyone should have health care. some people can't pay for there own health care. i want to health care for everyone.
Illegal, wrong category.

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Postby Philimbesi » Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:39 am

Genocide Prevention Act

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights


Strength: Strong


Proposed by: FlagVoracious Vendetta

Description: Genocide.— Whoever, whether in time of peace or in time of war, in a circumstance described in subsection and with the specific intent to destroy, in whole or in substantial part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group as such—
(1) kills members of a specefic/certain group;
(2) causes serious bodily injury to members of that group;
(3) causes the permanent impairment of the mental faculties of members of the group through drugs, torture, or similar techniques;
(4) subjects the group to conditions of life that are intended to cause the physical destruction of the group in whole or in part;
(5) imposes measures intended to prevent births within the group; or
(6) transfers by force children of the group to another group;
or attempts to do so, shall be punished as provided in subsection.

Punishment for Basic Offense.— The punishment for being convicted of Genocide is the Following—
(1) The Nation's general's and Leader's shall be executed by firing squad - If the Death Count Exceeds 5,000,000.
(2) The Nation's general's shall be executed by hanging - If the death count Exceeds 3,000,000.
(3) The Nation shall be ordered to make a Public Apology, worldwide, and forced to pay $1,000,000 to the nation's of that Religion/Ethnicity, per the Million Populace which was brutally killed.

Ways for The World Assembly shall avoid Genocide worldwide.
(1) Semi-Annual checks on nations of certain concern.
(2) Requesting nations to send annual reports of any: Revolutionary Acts within their government, Military attacks, Their Populace opinion towards certain races.

THEREFORE:The World Assembly Hereby passes the Genocide Prevention Act.

Approvals: 4 (Voracious Vendetta, Joshuahood, J-Kells, Nordicus)


Illegal, duplication of Genocide Convention.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:27 am

Economic Equality
A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.


Category: Social Justice
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Rustika

Description: UNDERSTANDING- That a lower class workers survival is on his wage, and that if he is fired he will go through periods of hardships attempting possibly not even getting a new job. Realizing that a lower class citizen holds up the country.
DEMANDING-
1-That the minimum wage is to be increased by 50% to hold up for a workers needs. If a minimum wage does not exist then a one must be introduced. And seeing as they didn't already have one, the minimum wage must be the average for their entire region, or if not it must be a set amount that is to be agreed on.
3-That mechanization is to be legal as long, as long as it does not affect a worker by cutting his salary, replacing him, affecting his health etc.
4- That the corporation pay full wage to a female worker in labour and pregnancy. If the corporation is unable to pay this, then the corporation is to fill out a pamphlet listing all the companies assets, income and loans, the company also lists all the spending, so as the government can loan them money to pay the maternity leave. A group under government pay check will supervise companies to see that the assets and spending are valid. If the corporation cannot pay back the loan, the government will take 25% percent of the corporations earnings after the workers are payed until the loan is payed back.
5-All workers must be in safe conditions and if they aren't the workers health (if they agree to be in dangerous conditions) is the corporation's responsibility. If a worker gets injured under corporation responsibility the worker has grounds to sue. But the corporation may set a super visor that the worker must live with, to make sure that the worker/s don't purposely hurt them selves to sue.
6-At least 2 employes performing manual labour must be promoted a year.


maybe not illegal per se, but a bit too much with the micromanaging. Far too much. We are guessing they have never heard the economic theory that "if you raise everybodies wages by 50%, the cost of everything will increase by at least that as the cost of production, manufacture, shipping and retailing will rise along with the incresed wages."

Micromanage. one size fits all.
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