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Postby Grays Harbor » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:59 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: united_republic_of_liberals_1424989581

Minimum Wage
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights

Strength: Significant

Proposed by: United Republic of Liberals

Description: General Assembly,

Allow the consideration that all nations throughout the world whether a democracy, monarchy, or dictatorship must pay their citizens a minimum wage of $20,000 anually in their currency.

Let each country decide whether this be done through welfare or through easing minimum wage for all low-paid workers.
This can be decided through issues the government must face/ignore.

This will not only benefit one region or one group of nations, it will benefit trade and economies across the board.

Consideration greatly appreciated.

Approvals: 1 (New Commonwealth of Australia)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 81 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 5 hours


Ooh, let's see, another one. Duplication, no operative clause, maybe an ideological ban (against capitalism).

I would also add naïve, simplistic, and uncomprehending of economics.
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Postby Amerieka » Thu Feb 26, 2015 11:39 pm

Why do we make it a point to humiliate people?

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Postby Normlpeople » Fri Feb 27, 2015 1:53 am

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: amerieka_1425017286
Repeal "Reproductive Freedoms"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal


Resolution: GA#286


Proposed by: Amerieka

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #286: Reproductive Freedoms (Category: Human Rights; Strength: Significant) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: COMMENDING the intents and purposes of this resolution in its attempt to solidify human freedom to determine their own reproductive rights,

FIRSTLY CLARIFYING that this proposal does not equate to the preference of restricting reproductive freedom.

ASSERT that this resolution cannot be imposed on all nations without due consideration of the variety of cultural and religious beliefs and practices around the world. While it acknowledges "that individuals may have cultural or religious misgivings regarding termination of pregnancy", the resolution brushes the acknowledgement aside by imposing its own value system above national value systems, or individual value systems,

NOTING that Issue #136 in the daily issues, "Much Ado About Abortion", already allows for individual nations to determine their own abortion policy,

CONCERNED that this resolution infringes on the right of nations to govern independently,

SUGGEST a repeal of this resolution in order to let individual nations determine their respective reproductive policy.

Approvals: 1 (CDland)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 80 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 8 hours

The Armed Kingdom of Normlpeople has not approved this proposal.

Pure Nat-Sov as well as lacking a proper operative clause.
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Postby Amerieka » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:04 am

So being a nat-sov automatically qualifies it as "silly and/or illegal"?

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Postby Normlpeople » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:05 am

Amerieka wrote:So being a nat-sov automatically qualifies it as "silly and/or illegal"?


Yes, if that's all it is. Do yourself a favor and read the rules/faq at the top of the forum before proceeding further.
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Postby Amerieka » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:06 am

Lol, jerk.

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Postby The Dark Star Republic » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:07 am

Amerieka wrote:So being a nat-sov automatically qualifies it as "silly and/or illegal"?

There are no criteria for being posted in this thread. Literally any proposal can be posted here by anyone who happens to dislike it. It was originally conceived as a fun, light-hearted thread when submission numbers were much higher, but it now largely just serves the purpose of dumping on every proposal not first submitted to the forum.

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Postby Bananaistan » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:46 am

Tbf, there has been the very rare occasion where non-illegal proposals are posted to their own thread by someone other than the author rather being post in here. It's a little unfair I think to suggest that this thread is only used to pile in on any and all unposted proposals. How far back in this thread would you have to go to find a proposal which was actually legal?
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Postby The Dark Star Republic » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:50 am

I have no idea: there's rarely any posts confirming whether proposals posted here were in fact illegal. I've certainly seen proposals posted here not be deleted, but that's not a guarantee of legality.

Anyway, I won't hijack further; my thoughts have been summed up previously.

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Fri Feb 27, 2015 5:54 am

Amerieka wrote:Why do we make it a point to humiliate people?

Ridicule builds character. Besides, your proposals were ridiculously illegal.

Amerieka wrote:So being a nat-sov automatically qualifies it as "silly and/or illegal"?

NatSov-only laws are illegal already.

Amerieka wrote:Lol, jerk.

You wanna debate it? Post them on the forums for debate.

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Postby Hirota » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:07 am

The Dark Star Republic wrote:largely just serves the purpose of dumping on every proposal not first submitted to the forum.
I thought that was because we are not allowed to put proposals on here that had their own thread.
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Postby Defwa » Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:17 am

Hirota wrote:
The Dark Star Republic wrote:largely just serves the purpose of dumping on every proposal not first submitted to the forum.
I thought that was because we are not allowed to put proposals on here that had their own thread.

Which serves its own purpose of tracking proposals that would have otherwise been lost and unrecorded losing potentially valuable demographic information about the desires of the most vulnerable and emotional voters.

Of course this point has also been rehashed a dozen times but some people like to bring up that sort of thing at every opportunity.
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Postby Philimbesi » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:06 pm

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: north_korea89_1425063489

Repeal "Restrictions on Child Labor"
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#4

Proposed by: NORTH KOREA89

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #4: Restrictions on Child Labor (Category: Human Rights; Strength: Strong) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: I believe this should be repealed because in my country children start working at age 10. So with this bill it puts pressure on our country and many others like mine. Thank you for your time.

Approvals: 1 (NORTH KOREA89)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 80 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 9 hours


All nat-sov, all the time.
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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:18 pm

Normlpeople wrote:
GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: amerieka_1425017286
Repeal "Reproductive Freedoms"
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal


Resolution: GA#286


Proposed by: Amerieka

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #286: Reproductive Freedoms (Category: Human Rights; Strength: Significant) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: COMMENDING the intents and purposes of this resolution in its attempt to solidify human freedom to determine their own reproductive rights,

FIRSTLY CLARIFYING that this proposal does not equate to the preference of restricting reproductive freedom.

ASSERT that this resolution cannot be imposed on all nations without due consideration of the variety of cultural and religious beliefs and practices around the world. While it acknowledges "that individuals may have cultural or religious misgivings regarding termination of pregnancy", the resolution brushes the acknowledgement aside by imposing its own value system above national value systems, or individual value systems,

NOTING that Issue #136 in the daily issues, "Much Ado About Abortion", already allows for individual nations to determine their own abortion policy,

CONCERNED that this resolution infringes on the right of nations to govern independently,

SUGGEST a repeal of this resolution in order to let individual nations determine their respective reproductive policy.

Approvals: 1 (CDland)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 80 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 8 hours

The Armed Kingdom of Normlpeople has not approved this proposal.

Pure Nat-Sov as well as lacking a proper operative clause.

Also, metagaming: mentioning a daily issue.

And a side note, not to pick on anyone in particular: People, there are other rules besides "NatSov" and "Bloody stupid." Maybe try finding other violations in proposals besides just those?
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Postby Philimbesi » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:33 pm

And a side note, not to pick on anyone in particular: People, there are other rules besides "NatSov" and "Bloody stupid." Maybe try finding other violations in proposals besides just those?


You're right, I figured it was the most glaring though.
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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:35 pm

Like I said, I wasn't picking on anyone in particular. :p
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Postby Phydios » Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:14 pm

Repeal "Restrictions on Child Labor"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal


Resolution: GA#4


Proposed by: Cobrastain

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #4: Restrictions on Child Labor (Category: Human Rights; Strength: Strong) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: I believe this should be repealed because in my country Unemployment rates are low and would be lower if children where able to start work at the age of 11 instead of the age of 16 or older. Plus with children working your nation's Economy will rise to higher standers then before.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 81 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 5 hours


Blogposal, no operative clause (unless we consider the autogenerated description to count), branding, bad grammar, and NatSov.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:17 pm

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: cobrastain_1425075006

Repeal "Restrictions on Child Labor"
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#4

Proposed by: Cobrastain

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #4: Restrictions on Child Labor (Category: Human Rights; Strength: Strong) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: I believe this should be repealed because in my country Unemployment rates are low and would be lower if children where able to start work at the age of 11 instead of the age of 16 or older. Plus with children working your nation's Economy will rise to higher standers then before.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 81 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 5 hours


GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: north_korea89_1425063489

Repeal "Restrictions on Child Labor"
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#4

Proposed by: NORTH KOREA89

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #4: Restrictions on Child Labor (Category: Human Rights; Strength: Strong) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: I believe this should be repealed because in my country children start working at age 10. So with this bill it puts pressure on our country and many others like mine. Thank you for your time.

Approvals: 1 (NORTH KOREA89)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 80 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 5 hours


Anyway, both of these are duplicates, bloggish, introduces new stuff for a repeal, and just plain stupid.
I love how the only approval comes from the guy who submitted it.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:22 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: cobrastain_1425075006

Repeal "Restrictions on Child Labor"
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#4

Proposed by: Cobrastain

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #4: Restrictions on Child Labor (Category: Human Rights; Strength: Strong) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: I believe this should be repealed because in my country Unemployment rates are low and would be lower if children where able to start work at the age of 11 instead of the age of 16 or older. Plus with children working your nation's Economy will rise to higher standers then before.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 81 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 5 hours


GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: north_korea89_1425063489

Repeal "Restrictions on Child Labor"
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#4

Proposed by: NORTH KOREA89

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #4: Restrictions on Child Labor (Category: Human Rights; Strength: Strong) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: I believe this should be repealed because in my country children start working at age 10. So with this bill it puts pressure on our country and many others like mine. Thank you for your time.

Approvals: 1 (NORTH KOREA89)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 80 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 5 hours


Anyway, both of these are duplicates, bloggish, introduces new stuff for a repeal, and just plain stupid.
I love how the only approval comes from the guy who submitted it.

They seem oddly similar as well, as if they were written by the same person.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:27 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:


Anyway, both of these are duplicates, bloggish, introduces new stuff for a repeal, and just plain stupid.
I love how the only approval comes from the guy who submitted it.

They seem oddly similar as well, as if they were written by the same person.


They weren't but it sure seems like it, doesn't it? :)
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:56 pm

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: amerieka_1425002667

The School De-genderizing Act
A resolution to promote funding and the development of education and the arts.


Category: Education and Creativity

Area of Effect: Educational

Proposed by: Amerieka

Description: DESCRIPTION: Gender equality has made inroads in many sectors of society but requires further cultural cultivation in society;

RECOGNIZING that early education can and will play a key role in the continued improvement of equality between genders;

PROPOSES that "gender" be progressively minimized, with the aim of eventual elimination, from member nations' education system.

DEFINITIONS:
Education system broadly refers to both academic aspects, such as curriculum, and teaching approach, and administrative aspects, such as uniforms, enrollment forms, and toilet labels.

This proposal states that with IMMEDIATE EFFECT,

1. All school toilets have no gender identification.

2. Schools that have uniforms abolish the need for standardized uniforms which has conventionally been gender-differentiated.

3. Gender is no longer a required category in all forms and documents relating to the student (or prospective students)

This proposal further establishes that within FIVE years,

1. Gender studies as a liberal arts subject be taught in secondary/high schools (or its equivalent).

2. All science based subjects remove the use of he/she, or other gender specific identifications, be removed with it.

3. Subjects dealing specifically with gender-linked aspects, such as biology, where he/she can ease the process of learning, is exempt. Art subjects, such as literature and film, are also exempt due to the nature of the already gender specific content.

Approvals: 2 (Courtian, Zolentia)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 79 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days 5 hours


I think this one might be in the wrong category, maybe Human Rights would be better?
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Postby Phydios » Fri Feb 27, 2015 5:03 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: amerieka_1425002667

The School De-genderizing Act
A resolution to promote funding and the development of education and the arts.


Category: Education and Creativity

Area of Effect: Educational

Proposed by: Amerieka

Description: DESCRIPTION: Gender equality has made inroads in many sectors of society but requires further cultural cultivation in society;

RECOGNIZING that early education can and will play a key role in the continued improvement of equality between genders;

PROPOSES that "gender" be progressively minimized, with the aim of eventual elimination, from member nations' education system.

DEFINITIONS:
Education system broadly refers to both academic aspects, such as curriculum, and teaching approach, and administrative aspects, such as uniforms, enrollment forms, and toilet labels.

This proposal states that with IMMEDIATE EFFECT,

1. All school toilets have no gender identification.

2. Schools that have uniforms abolish the need for standardized uniforms which has conventionally been gender-differentiated.

3. Gender is no longer a required category in all forms and documents relating to the student (or prospective students)

This proposal further establishes that within FIVE years,

1. Gender studies as a liberal arts subject be taught in secondary/high schools (or its equivalent).

2. All science based subjects remove the use of he/she, or other gender specific identifications, be removed with it.

3. Subjects dealing specifically with gender-linked aspects, such as biology, where he/she can ease the process of learning, is exempt. Art subjects, such as literature and film, are also exempt due to the nature of the already gender specific content.

Approvals: 2 (Courtian, Zolentia)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 79 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days 5 hours


I think this one might be in the wrong category, maybe Human Rights would be better?


It legislates on how schools treat the concept of gender. That doesn't seem to have anything to do with human rights.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Fri Feb 27, 2015 5:05 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:They seem oddly similar as well, as if they were written by the same person.


They weren't but it sure seems like it, doesn't it? :)

I wasn't saying same nation, I was hinting at same person controlling both nations, i.e. multiing. No evidence other than eerie similarity in writing style.
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Postby Defwa » Fri Feb 27, 2015 5:24 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:


Anyway, both of these are duplicates, bloggish, introduces new stuff for a repeal, and just plain stupid.
I love how the only approval comes from the guy who submitted it.

They seem oddly similar as well, as if they were written by the same person.

How do unemployment rates get lower when you add people to the work force?
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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Fri Feb 27, 2015 5:25 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: amerieka_1425002667

The School De-genderizing Act
A resolution to promote funding and the development of education and the arts.


Category: Education and Creativity

Area of Effect: Educational

Proposed by: Amerieka

Description: DESCRIPTION: Gender equality has made inroads in many sectors of society but requires further cultural cultivation in society;

RECOGNIZING that early education can and will play a key role in the continued improvement of equality between genders;

PROPOSES that "gender" be progressively minimized, with the aim of eventual elimination, from member nations' education system.

DEFINITIONS:
Education system broadly refers to both academic aspects, such as curriculum, and teaching approach, and administrative aspects, such as uniforms, enrollment forms, and toilet labels.

This proposal states that with IMMEDIATE EFFECT,

1. All school toilets have no gender identification.

2. Schools that have uniforms abolish the need for standardized uniforms which has conventionally been gender-differentiated.

3. Gender is no longer a required category in all forms and documents relating to the student (or prospective students)

This proposal further establishes that within FIVE years,

1. Gender studies as a liberal arts subject be taught in secondary/high schools (or its equivalent).

2. All science based subjects remove the use of he/she, or other gender specific identifications, be removed with it.

3. Subjects dealing specifically with gender-linked aspects, such as biology, where he/she can ease the process of learning, is exempt. Art subjects, such as literature and film, are also exempt due to the nature of the already gender specific content.

Approvals: 2 (Courtian, Zolentia)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 79 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days 5 hours


I think this one might be in the wrong category, maybe Human Rights would be better?

It has its own thread: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=332101
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