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Omigodtheykilledkenny
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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:59 am

Also Branding.
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Coen
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Postby Coen » Sun Sep 21, 2014 8:41 am

Mereon wrote:Proposal


Ban on Torture

DEFINING torture as any act performed with the intent to cause undue distress and/or pain upon a person in order to extract information.

RECOGNIZING that such methods are physically damaging and morally wrong

HEREBY creates the World Assembly Individual Rights Organization (WAIRO).

DEMANDS that all nations currently practicing torture must cease and desist.

THANKS YOU for your effort, and a

GIFT BASKET will be sent shortly.


I'd like a gift basket and a thank you card too. :p

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Postby Moronist Decisions » Mon Sep 22, 2014 6:31 pm

Repeal "Ban on Slavery and Trafficking"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal


Resolution: GA#23


Proposed by: Luxemcuba

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #23: Ban on Slavery and Trafficking (Category: Human Rights; Strength: Strong) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: Slavery, for the longest of times, has made use of prisoners and indentured people to pay their debts through forced labor. The slave trade however became a brutal market of selling human beings as dogs or goods, to the point where human beings were traded at gambling tables simply by the melatonin content of their skin. However, indentured servitude and slavery of state prisoners, obviously with inspections of treatment to an extent, should be reinstated as a viable source of labor within society.
To begin looking into this topic, we must first look at the history of slavery, slavery is first mentioned as an established legal system in the code of Hammurabi (1760 BCE). However, before that, there is evidence that slavery was used in all ancient civilizations. After Hammurabi, we move on to a more noted and powerful society, the ancient Greeks. The Greeks were commonly known as polis (city states) that often rough among one another. Thus it is only natural that they were on of the first civilizations that enslaved their own people. In Ancient Rome, however, slaves become part entertainment part free labor and were treated worse than every before then. Slaves in medieval Europe, began to take on the aspect of barter or currency. This was seen throughout Europe and the caliphates and was accepted internationally. The mongols also took many slaves, they however, did not often use them themselves, however shipped them across Eurasia to be sold internationally. Which was the foundation of ideas for the horrible slave trade. All of these ideas then lumped together and slavery became a global market at the start of modern slavery. Africa traded slaves for goods which were traded for materials which were made into goods, thus starting "the triangle".
However, if we would bind indentured servants to a person with a contract, that would remove many incentives for poor treatment. If we avoid objectifying them like our ancestors, the system of indentured servitude would work superbly. Thus, if the current laws were repealed or at least revised we could spur the global economy ten fold with a new workforce.


Blogpostal, RL references, doesn't actually repeal.
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Defwa
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Postby Defwa » Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:38 pm

It reads like an essay for school.
And I get the feeling the author actually believes this- like his father is one of those 'honorable southerners' that pretends his racist tendencies is actually just appreciation for the past.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:42 pm

Defwa wrote:It reads like an essay for school.
And I get the feeling the author actually believes this- like his father is one of those 'honorable southerners' that pretends his racist tendencies is actually just appreciation for the past.

They also don't realize that indentured servants were treated almost as bad as slaves were in some cases...
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Postby Defwa » Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:28 pm

So, for those who don't know, I live in Texas and we write the text books for nearly half the country.
Our board of education is voted in by the racist elderly in those odd elections no one else cares about.

While I won't get into exactly how much they gloss over slavery in order to ensure that we all grow up believing that it was a great economic system like capitalism (but totally wasn't capitalism's fault) or that slavery as it was known in America was totally normal compared to previous slavery, the treatment is covered over quite well.

To read from the books, we did no damage to Africa or african culture. We did not suppress their potential during or after. They were family! Most slave owners were small middle class families that welcomed their servant like a cousin. Had they not been forcibly taken from their homeland, they would have died of malaria and never accomplished anything because there was absolutely no established society in Africa until the white man put it there.
Indentured servants, share croppers, serfs, and other wage slaves were actually great because capitalism made them. They could have left at any time and were only in that position because they didn't have the spirit to better themselves.

I'm actually a little sickened now that I've had to remember all this
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Postby Ardchoille » Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:38 pm

OK, OK, Ohhhkaaaaayyy. You've seen the proposal, now read the debate? Nuh-uh. Wrong thread, wrong forum, take it to General, please.
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Postby Wrapper » Wed Sep 24, 2014 4:26 am

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: gilbon_1411549373

Rapid Response Army

A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.

Category: International Security

Strength: Significant

Proposed by: Gilbon

Description: this army will only be loyal to WA but its military leader must be from the Free Land of Gilbon and all nations can send their ground force and technolgy. If a nation invades another then the Rapid Response Army will take down the invading nation and it will pay mone to the World Assembly

Approvals: 2 (Imperial Eagle, Russcotia)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 63 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 4 hours

Branding, WA army, and why would anyone want to be paid mone?

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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:35 am

Wrapper wrote:Branding, WA army, and why would anyone want to be paid mone?

We should double-check to make sure it isn't a currency in NS; it might be worth a lot. :p
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Postby Defwa » Wed Sep 24, 2014 12:13 pm

Not only WA army, but the quintessential reason behind the non WA army rule.
Can't have people claiming to use the unlimited resources of the WA to intrude on everyone
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:42 pm

Wrapper wrote:
GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: gilbon_1411549373

Rapid Response Army

A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.

Category: International Security

Strength: Significant

Proposed by: Gilbon

Description: this army will only be loyal to WA but its military leader must be from the Free Land of Gilbon and all nations can send their ground force and technolgy. If a nation invades another then the Rapid Response Army will take down the invading nation and it will pay mone to the World Assembly

Approvals: 2 (Imperial Eagle, Russcotia)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 63 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 4 hours

Branding, WA army, and why would anyone want to be paid mone?

I love how the authors of these proposals are delusional enough to think that even if a WA army were legal, we'd all just hand over command of it to a tiny nation founded yesterday.
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Inaga
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Postby Inaga » Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:52 pm

Click me
No operative clauses and written in first person

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District XIV
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Postby District XIV » Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:54 pm

Inaga wrote:Click me
No operative clauses and written in first person

Resolution text, because you're supposed to post that than just a link wrote:GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: stephan_wiseman_1411619124

Cancer cure
A resolution to modify universal standards of healthcare.


Category: Health

Area of Effect: Research

Proposed by: Stephan wiseman

Description: My hope is to have research towards a cure for cancer.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 65 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 11 hours

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Postby Percussionland » Thu Sep 25, 2014 5:07 am

Cancer cure is a hope, not a proposal, and is a waste of the World Assembly's time, and is a mockery of and a disgrace to the General Assembly. This must be taken down at once.
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Defwa
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Postby Defwa » Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:03 am

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: gumina_1411650544
Repeal "Debris Prevention"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal


Resolution: GA#303


Proposed by: Gumina

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #303: Debris Prevention (Category: Environmental; Industry Affected: Manufacturing) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: "...rapidly increasing accumulation of debris in orbit"

This member nation has no proof that there is accumulation of debris in space.

Approvals: 1 (Versus Militia)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 64 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 2 hours

One sentence, no repeal clause, failure to grasp the issue
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The Dark Star Republic
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Postby The Dark Star Republic » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:52 am

Had you included such "proof", the resolution would have been illegal!

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Louisistan
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Postby Louisistan » Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:39 am

The Dark Star Republic wrote:Had you included such "proof", the resolution would have been illegal!

How about "83% of Scientists say"... wait, that's no good. Arbitrary numbers.
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Postby Wrapper » Thu Sep 25, 2014 12:28 pm

• 113 minutes ago: The proposal "Save the Badger!" was removed from the floor.

I would've liked to have seen that one.

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:46 pm

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: the_forsworn_knights_1411665694
Concerning Anti Pirate Arms

A resolution to tighten or relax gun control laws.


Category: Gun Control


Decision: Tighten


Proposed by: The Forsworn Knights

Description: APALLED: by the frightening increase in piracy over the years.
WORRIED: that international privately owned vessals will be unable to defend themselves aganst pirates, or that the ships may turn to piracy or mutiny themselves.
DECLARING: that ships be allowed to place lock-boxes containing firearms with combinations only known by the ships certified officers on these vessals containing civilian firearms, automatically alerting nearby naval forces apon being opened, so long as the owner has the vessal registered onto a list of "armed civilian ships" before the firearms are loaded.
HEREBY: Tightens the ownership of loaded firearms and ammunition on private vessals.

Approvals: 8 (Versus Militia, The Democratic Nation of Unovia, Catnipica, Chester Pearson, Brunerist Delegate, Ahuansennerpoi, Rzeczpospolita Krakowska, Izwayla)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 57 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 6 hours

Category fail.

And I'm pretty sure Chester has gone rogue...
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Postby Defwa » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:50 pm

You know he likes to rubber stamp ridiculous proposals. He'll encourage hopeless authors to submit to they'll realize how silly they were and learn something
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:05 pm

Defwa wrote:You know he likes to rubber stamp ridiculous proposals. He'll encourage hopeless authors to submit to they'll realize how silly they were and learn something

I don't remember seeing him do that before, but then I don't really pay attention to who rubber stamps the proposals.

I thought it might be a response to that whole dust-up with the Powers That Be.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:54 am

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: gilbon_1411807584

Technology for all
A resolution to develop industry around the world.


Category: Advancement of Industry

Area of Effect: Labor Deregulation

Proposed by: Gilbon

Description: I leader of Gilbon here by bring my allies to combine our industry and help other needy nations in order to bring forth law and order

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 65 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 7 hours
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Postby Defwa » Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:14 am

At least gilbon is consistent
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Postby Ardchoille » Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:46 pm

Wrapper wrote:
• 113 minutes ago: The proposal "Save the Badger!" was removed from the floor.

I would've liked to have seen that one.

It had a certain charm:
The Badger has often been held as one of the most resilient and steadfast animals on the planet. But we have come to realize it, too, can be effected by us. The national animal of [nation name redacted] is the Badger, and we have done all we could do to protect it, but even so it has neared the verge of extinction in our borders several times.

This Resolution is to hereby ban the harm of any badger. Be it self defense, hunting for it's furs, or destroying it's habitats via logging or construction.

We believe this will not only help badgers to recover from years of abuse, but also set an example for all countries to zealously defend their national animal.

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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:54 pm

If it weren't so branded and "bloggy," would it be legal? For that matter, would a proposal to save "loch-dwelling monsters" be legal also? ;)
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