Silly and/or Illegal GA Proposals. zOMG!

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

"NatSov arguments" apply to repeals, not standard proposals, but whatever. Branding, breaking the fourth wall, attempting to ban future types of legislation, attempting to repeal all past legislation, and I don't even know how this applies to "moral decency." I suppose moral decency is one area this proposal may apply to, but what exactly is the category for a resolution saying, "The WA sucks! All these laws are a violation of my sovereign rights waah!!" Oh, right. The "resign" button.

[Araraukar]

"NatSov arguments" apply to repeals, not standard proposals, but whatever.
*snip*
but what exactly is the category for a resolution saying, "The WA sucks! All these laws are a violation of my sovereign rights waah!!" Oh, right. The "resign" button.

I don't think they meant "NatSov" as an illegality, just that, like you demonstrated, it's a pure cry for NatSov rights.

[Laeriland]

"NatSov arguments" apply to repeals, not standard proposals, but whatever. Branding, breaking the fourth wall, attempting to ban future types of legislation, attempting to repeal all past legislation, and I don't even know how this applies to "moral decency." I suppose moral decency is one area this proposal may apply to, but what exactly is the category for a resolution saying, "The WA sucks! All these laws are a violation of my sovereign rights waah!!" Oh, right. The "resign" button.

I know that, kenny, I was just raising the point that it makes a poor argument on it's own even when it is legal.

[The Dark Star Republic]

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: kaeli_1403272555

Commend Kaeli

A resolution to promote funding and the development of education and the arts.

Category: Education and Creativity | Area of Effect: Free Press | Proposed by: Kaeli

Description: Recognises that:
Since its recent conception Kaeli has developed quickly into a peaceful, diverse and democratic federal state.

It has seen widespread peace and growth since its ascension to the world assembly a number of weeks ago, and that her work within the WA and her region, is warrant of commendation in recognition of the promotion of peaceful and good natured intents of the World Assembly.

Its promotion of harmonious co-operation between states.

That Kaeli is a symbol of these WA principles.

In my unofficial opinion, this breaks the rules on category, branding, MetaGaming, and falls under the rubric of not worthy of the WA's consideration. Regardless, the WA can't commend individual nations.

[Separatist Peoples]

In my unofficial opinion, this breaks the rules on category, branding, MetaGaming, and falls under the rubric of not worthy of the WA's consideration. Regardless, the WA can't commend individual nations.

While not illegal, it's fair to tag on breaking the unspoken yet horrific taboo of commending oneself. *whistles innocently*

Edit: formatting tags are hard on a phone...

[Elke and Elba]

In my unofficial opinion, this breaks the rules on category, branding, MetaGaming, and falls under the rubric of not worthy of the WA's consideration. Regardless, the WGA can't commend individual nations.

Interestingly the first stop for the state isn't actually "read the rules", but instead "where to put your proposal" since this is probably the first and only time I'm seeing a proposal actually going to the wrong Assembly -.-"

[The Dark Star Republic]

A similar thing sometimes happens when people submit repeals using a category, rather than the repeal function itself.

[Elke and Elba]

A similar thing sometimes happens when people submit repeals using a category, rather than the repeal function itself.

Well that happens, but at least everything happens within the GA...

OOC: On the other hand, some people are responsible in causing an inferno cross-assembly!

[District XIV]

[redacted]

[Elke and Elba]

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: kaeli_1403272555

Commend Kaeli
A resolution to promote funding and the development of education and the arts.


Category: Education and Creativity

Area of Effect: Free Press

Proposed by: Kaeli

Description: Recognises that:
Since its recent conception Kaeli has developed quickly into a peaceful, diverse and democratic federal state.

It has seen widespread peace and growth since its ascension to the world assembly a number of weeks ago, and that her work within the WA and her region, is warrant of commendation in recognition of the promotion of peaceful and good natured intents of the World Assembly.

Its promotion of harmonious co-operation between states.

That Kaeli is a symbol of these WA principles.

Approvals: 2 (Free Law, Devonshire of the UK)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 75 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days 21 hours

Wrong council, self-commendation, wrong category, no operative clause.

viewtopic.php?p=20596084#p20596084

Please, read the thread before double posting the same draft.

[Araraukar]

While not illegal, it's fair to tag on breaking the unspoken yet horrific taboo of commending oneself.

It's illegal for being submitted in GA rather than the SC circus.

Please, read the thread before double posting the same draft.

It was worth posting twice for being so bad - trying to bring the SC fluff into GA.

[Lexicor]

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: lexicor_1402512548

Repeal "Freedom of Marriage Act"
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#15

Proposed by: Lexicor

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #15: Freedom of Marriage Act (Category: Human Rights; Strength: Significant) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: regardless of the incredibly divisive nature of the issue of marriage and in particular same-sex marriage any law which impinges directly on a nation's sovereignty of governance must not be allowed to stand in the World Assembly.

As outlined in GA Resolution #2, Section I, Article 2

“Every WA Member State has the right to exercise jurisdiction over its territory and over all persons and things therein, subject to the immunities recognized by international law.”

By this standard, mandating the introduction of legislation of any sort by the World Assembly within the internal borders of any given state is a clear violation of national sovereignty.

Furthermore the “Freedom of Marriage Act” fails to address non-traditional forms of marriage that may be held as custom by certain member states. Indeed the resolution in Article 1a explicitly only addresses the union of two persons.

“This resolution applies to civil contracts regulating the union of two persons and its effects on the common estate and inheritance rights of the participants.”

Even if the World Assembly allows the continual violation of national sovereignty to occur the Freedom of Marriage Act must not be allowed to stand because it is by its very nature discriminating against and failing to address polygamous marriages, which are held in high esteem in many nations. By only addressing the union of two persons this bill alienates a whole spectrum of other arrangements. If two people shall be able to express
their love why cannot 4? Or 5?

Whether you support marriage in its traditional form, or its extension to minorities or oppose it, every nation can unite under the principles that this World Assembly is founded upon and defend in whole and not just in part the sacred National Sovereignty of all.
Approvals: 1 (Shahak)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 80 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 7 hours

NatSov, with some extra NatSov and a dash of NatSov as well. Also, no operative clause.

It is, however, a very interesting spin on your traditional FMA repeal.

I remember writing this when I joined nation states and did not read the rules at all!

[New Mushroom Kingdom]

http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vie ... 1403656164
Blogposal, Wrong chamber, Category, No operative clause. Anything else?

[Araraukar]

http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=orctova_1403656164
Blogposal, Wrong chamber, Category, No operative clause. Anything else?

Well, the whole "SC proposal submitted as GA one" is pretty much all that's needed to know, since with that there's no way it could be legal. (And you forgot metagaming for the gameside regions and delegates.)

Oh, and it's nice to post the proposal text, so here:

Condemnation of Bootsieland

A resolution to restrict civil freedoms in the interest of moral decency.

Category: Moral Decency

Strength: Significant

Proposed by: Orctova

Description: Delegates of the World Assembly,
I brought this up to condemn a fellow nation. The Armed Republic of Bootsieland is a new member of nationstates, yet he intruded upon my home region, cool region, and proceeded to make racist and hurtful remarks upon my character, and, another nation in my region who shall go unnamed for privacy. Bootsieland then lobbying the unnamed region and Poughkeepsika for endorsements, so he could be WA delegate for the region. Note that he is not in the World Assembly, I am bringing this up to warn other regions of Bootsieland. Bootsieland is an illogical, racist bully, who needs to be condemned. I am ashamed that such a person exists in the world. Thank you.

Approvals: 2 (Orctova, KebabKebabKebabKebab)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 75 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 3 hours

[Elke and Elba]

What's with the recent glut of silly SC condemnation masquerades?

[Araraukar]

What's with the recent glut of silly SC condemnation masquerades?

Newbies not bothering to read the rules?

[Damanucus]

What's with the recent glut of silly SC condemnation masquerades?

Newbies not bothering to read the rules?

Unless it's a lot of newbies, I doubt it.

[Araraukar]

Unless it's a lot of newbies, I doubt it.

It's summer. That generally does mean a lot of newbies.

[Bears Armed]

LGBT Rights
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Sam R

Description: We should have LGBT rights because it would improve political and human freedom. We, the leaders of our nation, should not be allowed to decided whom our people marry. They should also be able to be themselves with out harming others. Major celebrities such as Lady Gaga have spoken about being yourself such as her song Born This
Way. I believe a law should be passed allowing LGBT rights because it is important to give people this political freedom.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 74 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days

Blogposal, no operative clause (and would be duplication if it did have one), RL references, written as individual (rather than the GA's collective) opinion...

[Grays Harbor]

LGBT Rights
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Sam R

Description: We should have LGBT rights because it would improve political and human freedom. We, the leaders of our nation, should not be allowed to decided whom our people marry. They should also be able to be themselves with out harming others. Major celebrities such as Lady Gaga have spoken about being yourself such as her song Born This
Way. I believe a law should be passed allowing LGBT rights because it is important to give people this political freedom.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 74 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days

Blogposal, no operative clause (and would be duplication if it did have one), RL references, written as individual (rather than the GA's collective) opinion...

Plus, anything that uses "Lady GaGa" as a reference and source really requires burning.

[Lescura]

LGBT Rights
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Sam R

Description: We should have LGBT rights because it would improve political and human freedom. We, the leaders of our nation, should not be allowed to decided whom our people marry. They should also be able to be themselves with out harming others. Major celebrities such as Lady Gaga have spoken about being yourself such as her song Born This
Way. I believe a law should be passed allowing LGBT rights because it is important to give people this political freedom.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 74 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days

Blogposal, no operative clause (and would be duplication if it did have one), RL references, written as individual (rather than the GA's collective) opinion...

Plus, anything that uses "Lady GaGa" as a reference and source really requires burning.

Vote that the WA have spectacular yearly burnings of all illegal proposals!

[Grays Harbor]

Make us world leaders rich!

A resolution to restrict political freedoms in the interest of law and order.



Category: Political Stability

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Scottalot


Description: I, The Generous And Honest Dan The Supreme Leader Of The All-mighty Nation Of Scottalot, propose a ban on political freedoms so that us, the world leaders, can become more powerful.

Without political freedoms we cannot be voted out of office and our opinions can never be questioned.

Glory To Earth!

All Hail Scott!

Oh good lord, where do I begin.

Branding
Metagaming
RL reference
Ideological Ban

anything else?

[Lexicor]

Lacks an Operative Clause
Blogsposal(?)
1st Person instead of collective WA opinion.

[Frisbeeteria]

Vote that the WA have spectacular yearly burnings of all illegal proposals!

You're new here. The bonfires are daily. We use the Eternal Flame Memorial in the courtyard. Come around sunset. Bring marshmallows.

[Lexicor]

Vote that the WA have spectacular yearly burnings of all illegal proposals!

You're new here. The bonfires are daily. We use the Eternal Flame Memorial in the courtyard. Come around sunset. Bring marshmallows.

I'll bring cookies!

*if ya get what im sayin *