You would have to ask him, I couldn't possibly comment.
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by Wallenburg » Sat Sep 23, 2023 3:25 pm
Hulldom wrote:
Even if he had, you realize this is a...perfectly legitimate tactic, no? Like there's literally nothing stopping...anyone from trying to juice votes from TNP citizens and residents out there.
by Liberza » Sat Sep 23, 2023 3:30 pm
by The Ice States » Sat Sep 23, 2023 3:32 pm
Liberza wrote:Not sure if this is true, but it seems pretty messed up that someone who is delegate but isn’t the elected delegate is able to directly vote on WA proposals, given that their vote is also on behalf of all of their endorsers, which in Pallaith’s case is over 800
by Liberza » Sat Sep 23, 2023 3:44 pm
The Ice States wrote:Liberza wrote:Not sure if this is true, but it seems pretty messed up that someone who is delegate but isn’t the elected delegate is able to directly vote on WA proposals, given that their vote is also on behalf of all of their endorsers, which in Pallaith’s case is over 800
The in-game Delegate's vote is subject to the direction of the elected Delegate during Delegacy transitions as per the regional WA voting policy. I say this having written the current voting policy in place in TNP, based on a previous version by Hulldom which included the same wording for that provision.
by Kreigsreich of Iron » Sat Sep 23, 2023 4:05 pm
0cala wrote:The Commodore wrote:Seems like you either back up the fascist claim here or don't make it at all.
I have no idea what this eternal thing is, but I do know if a proposal makes a serious claim that may not be true it should not pass. When I search the Gameplay forum for references to this group the most recent significant post I found was a raid report where they were raiding with LWU, and it was from like three months ago. Unlike the eternal thing, I do know who LWU is, and I don't buy they work with fascists. Proposal threads should stand on their own, so I feel like I have gone above and beyond to try to understand the allegation hurled here and I am left with serious doubts about the author. Hopefully there is just a lot that isn't being said which should be, but throwing that label around lightly is very serious.
Yes, LWU may have raided this region with TEO, but yet again, Fascists, past or present, do not deserve Trophy regions.
by The Seven levels of Heaven » Sat Sep 23, 2023 4:29 pm
by Improper Classifications » Sat Sep 23, 2023 4:30 pm
by The Seven levels of Heaven » Sat Sep 23, 2023 4:41 pm
Improper Classifications wrote:Interesting that TNP's Office of WA Affairs and Delegate-Elect are at opposition here.
by Improper Classifications » Sat Sep 23, 2023 4:42 pm
The Seven levels of Heaven wrote:Improper Classifications wrote:Interesting that TNP's Office of WA Affairs and Delegate-Elect are at opposition here.
Hardly surprising. Given the author is in TCB, on top of the fact that their region is allies with BoM, which if I remember at least one of those are at odds with TNP currently. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the driving force behind the campaign.
by The Seven levels of Heaven » Sat Sep 23, 2023 4:51 pm
Improper Classifications wrote:The Seven levels of Heaven wrote:Hardly surprising. Given the author is in TCB, on top of the fact that their region is allies with BoM, which if I remember at least one of those are at odds with TNP currently. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the driving force behind the campaign.
0cala moves regions every time the wind changes direction.
by The Hinterplace » Sat Sep 23, 2023 4:55 pm
by The Seven levels of Heaven » Sat Sep 23, 2023 5:25 pm
The Hinterplace wrote:I think that it's ridiculous that proposals are being made because of how some people feel about the author rather than the content of the proposal.
by Picairn » Sat Sep 23, 2023 6:52 pm
0cala wrote:This has some potential, it was at 20ish% voted for this morning, it's now at 41.2%.
by The Seven levels of Heaven » Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:08 pm
by Picairn » Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:11 am
The Seven levels of Heaven wrote:Picairn wrote:I don't think you can win this unless you gather more than 1,300 nations to vote for your proposal.
Considering this still has...what, 3 days left? It's possible to get enough support to turn it much more in favor of passing.
That being said, it's also possible that even more votes can appear to continue its fail trend. It's always an uncertain gamble unless the subject in vote is a pretty obvious pass/fail such as commending a universally beloved person.
by Angeloid Astraea » Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:18 am
by Herten » Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:38 am
Angeloid Astraea wrote:Herten wrote:
obviously someone who is not convinced by this attempt in bad faith.
Drag someone through the mud and then tell them to piss off?
Has it come to this?
The evidence against Nephmir and TEO has been presented in good faith two separate times here and here. As a member of an anti-fascist region yourself (or at least one tagged Anti-fascist), you should be condemning them along with us, not defending them.
by Angeloid Astraea » Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:42 am
Herten wrote:As a German national I am quite simply appalled. This is not evidence nor have traditional stances on gender and sexuality enough weight to call someone fascist. I’ll remind you that these claims are slander (not only in a social contexts, but also legal ones)
As a NationStates player I am appalled by the aggressive non-roleplaying aspect of this proposal. This is basically a direct attack on the character of other participants with (I’ll be honest here) bullshit-evidence.
I would rather support morally dubious people than this half-assed attempt at nothing.
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