[DEFEATED] Liberate Alterante

[0cala]

Are we really going to stoop to the level of voting against perfectly serviceable anti-fascist proposals simply because of a petty dislike of the author? Half the resolutions in the history of the GA and the SC would never have passed if we held to this standard. This is petty spite, nothing more. Do not insult us by pretending there's some high-minded principle behind this.

It's not really petty. The mods literally forumbanned the author because of all her spam. IIRC it was because she wasn't happy with people disagreeing with her, please correct me if I'm wrong. I've not paid that much attention to the SC recently. That being said, this is not about gatekeeping. I don't know where people got that from. It's about the author's behaviour.

It was about how WFS completely ignored my post about how i was persuading my draft, and BBD just kept getting on my nerves.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

It's not really petty. The mods literally forumbanned the author because of all her spam. IIRC it was because she wasn't happy with people disagreeing with her, please correct me if I'm wrong. I've not paid that much attention to the SC recently. That being said, this is not about gatekeeping. I don't know where people got that from. It's about the author's behaviour.

It was about how WFS completely ignored my post about how i was persuading my draft, and BBD just kept getting on my nerves.

Tough. You come up with a draft be prepared to defend it. All you did was bluster or try to tell people they were weren’t allowed to question you.

[0cala]

It was about how WFS completely ignored my post about how i was persuading my draft, and BBD just kept getting on my nerves.

Tough. You come up with a draft be prepared to defend it. All you did was bluster or try to tell people they were weren’t allowed to question you.

I gave you enough evidence, just about the same amount as IC, that last part is completely false.

[Wallenburg]

Every time I think the toxicity of GP couldn't stoop any lower, I am unpleasantly surprised at yet further debasement of this chamber. I wouldn't be surprised if this time next year you folks voted against anything not written by Westinor, Quebec, or Magecastle.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

Tough. You come up with a draft be prepared to defend it. All you did was bluster or try to tell people they were weren’t allowed to question you.

I gave you enough evidence, just about the same amount as IC, that last part is completely false.

Oh really?

I will not answer further questions y'all ask me, because y'all are a waste of my time.

[0cala]

I gave you enough evidence, just about the same amount as IC, that last part is completely false.

Oh really?

I will not answer further questions y'all ask me, because y'all are a waste of my time.

I was tired at 5:10am, you also cut some of that post, which was me telling you some evidence. I was tired of throwing evidence then IC came and gave you the exact same piece of what i said.

[Halsoni]

I was tired at 5:10am

Why does that matter?

[0cala]

I was tired at 5:10am

Why does that matter?

Is that really the only thing you question? if you're smart, you can inference that the brain doesn't work properly when sleep deprived.

[King Nephmir II]

Considering the GP community itself is gatekept, seeing the shock that the SC is also gatekept by the same community is amusing.

[Improper Classifications]

Considering the GP community itself is gatekept, seeing the shock that the SC is also gatekept by the same community is amusing.

you seemed to be perfectly fine with being in those gates till you got kicked out

[Wallenburg]

I was tired at 5:10am

Why does that matter?

Because being tired and having to deal with petty, bad faith contrarian posts on a web browser game doesn't inspire the most cooperative and charitable behavior in response, I imagine.

[Liberza]

So you guys are mobbing against the proposal because of the author? This proposal’s contents have absolutely nothing to do with the author though, the main point is not 0cala but that we are trying to liberate a region from the fash.

This may sound a bit naive or something, but this is really sad.

[Halsoni]

Why does that matter?

Is that really the only thing you question? if you're smart, you can inference that the brain doesn't work properly when sleep deprived.

Why does anyone need to take your bad choices into account when interacting with you?

[0cala]

Is that really the only thing you question? if you're smart, you can inference that the brain doesn't work properly when sleep deprived.

Why does anyone need to take your bad choices into account when interacting with you?

Wdym?

[The Ice States]

Is that really the only thing you question? if you're smart, you can inference that the brain doesn't work properly when sleep deprived.

Why does anyone need to take your bad choices into account when interacting with you?

The logical extension of this argument is that 0cala's behaviour in the competing thread is irrelevant to the proposal, since that's a "bad choice" which need not be taken into account in interactions with 0cala.

[0cala]

If you didn't already know, i suffer from behavioral problems.

[Halsoni]

Why does anyone need to take your bad choices into account when interacting with you?

Wdym?

If you choose to stay up till 5AM you're going to be sleep deprived. That's going to make you not think straight when responding to people. Why should someone else take that bad choice into account when interacting with you? It's your responsibility to maintain a proper sleep schedule, or at least not interact with others when you know that your brain doesn't work properly at 5AM.

If you didn't already know, i suffer from behavioral problems.

I'm sad to hear this, but this does mean that this environment might not be best suited for you. I'm posting in good faith here. If this is truly something you struggle with then a socially complicated political game like NationStates is probably not ideal for your own health. Especially GP/the SC.

[0cala]

If you didn't already know, i suffer from behavioral problems.

I'm sad to hear this, but this does mean that this environment might not be best suited for you. I'm posting in good faith here. If this is truly something you struggle with then a socially complicated political game like NationStates is probably not ideal for your own health. Especially GP/the SC.

I've already tried quitting NS, but im just too addicted to it.

[Halsoni]

I'm sad to hear this, but this does mean that this environment might not be best suited for you. I'm posting in good faith here. If this is truly something you struggle with then a socially complicated political game like NationStates is probably not ideal for your own health. Especially GP/the SC.

I've already tried quitting NS, but im just too addicted to it.

Try a different part of NS. It's a big game, after all. If you're really into the politics side of things, do something internal in a region instead of here.

[Second Sovereignty]

If you choose to stay up till 5AM you're going to be sleep deprived. That's going to make you not think straight when responding to people. Why should someone else take that bad choice into account when interacting with you? It's your responsibility to maintain a proper sleep schedule, or at least not interact with others when you know that your brain doesn't work properly at 5AM.

Sleeping schedule is very often not a matter of choice; it is none of your business to declare this a matter of poor choices and demand she isolate herself when you decide.

I'm sad to hear this, but this does mean that this environment might not be best suited for you. I'm posting in good faith here. If this is truly something you struggle with then a socially complicated political game like NationStates is probably not ideal for your own health. Especially GP/the SC.

It's one thing to effectively run someone off the site, quite another to 'politely' insinuate that someone you've declared firm opposition to simply doesn't fit in here.
You, of all people, should know better than this by now, and frankly I'm disgusted that you clearly haven't learned anything from your own history.

[Halsoni]

If you choose to stay up till 5AM you're going to be sleep deprived. That's going to make you not think straight when responding to people. Why should someone else take that bad choice into account when interacting with you? It's your responsibility to maintain a proper sleep schedule, or at least not interact with others when you know that your brain doesn't work properly at 5AM.

Sleeping schedule is very often not a matter of choice; it is none of your business to declare this a matter of poor choices and demand she isolate herself when you decide.

That's not what I'm saying, or at least what I'm trying to say.

I'm sad to hear this, but this does mean that this environment might not be best suited for you. I'm posting in good faith here. If this is truly something you struggle with then a socially complicated political game like NationStates is probably not ideal for your own health. Especially GP/the SC.

It's one thing to effectively run someone off the site, quite another to 'politely' insinuate that someone you've declared firm opposition to simply doesn't fit in here.
You, of all people, should know better than this by now, and frankly I'm disgusted that you clearly haven't learned anything from your own history.

I genuinely don't know who you are or why you think my history is relevant to this. I find it a little bit odd why you're reacting so hostile to my genuinely good faith posts. As 0cala has stated multiple times she gets upset about things related to NS it'd be better to move to a different part of NS instead of sticking to something that's not going to change, even if it should. I'm not saying this with some kind of agenda to get her out of the SC, if that's what you think. I'm saying this because it's clear as daylight this isn't good for her mental health.

[Buhers Mk II]

There are valid reasons to not support this proposal, but I'd argue that not liking 0cala is not one of them.

[0cala]

I would like to know, Pallaith have you been telling others to vote against my proposal in the TNP forums?

[Hulldom]

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I would like to know, Pallaith have you been telling others to vote against my proposal in the TNP forums?

Even if he had, you realize this is a...perfectly legitimate tactic, no? Like there's literally nothing stopping...anyone from trying to juice votes from TNP citizens and residents out there.

[0cala]

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I would like to know, Pallaith have you been telling others to vote against my proposal in the TNP forums?

Even if he had, you realize this is a...perfectly legitimate tactic, no? Like there's literally nothing stopping...anyone from trying to juice votes from TNP citizens and residents out there.

But why? what's his goal?