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[PASSED] Injunct The Communist Bloc

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:15 am
by Writinglegend
Link: https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1681837104

The Security Council,

Aghast that the region of The Communist Bloc has engaged in the flippant ravaging of native communities since the establishment of their modern military,

Clarifying that among The Communist Bloc’s victims are often regions with vibrant and storied communities such as The Mystical Council, which was displaced by an occupation in 2022,

Affirming that many of these small communities The Communist Bloc marauds consists of peaceful nations that have attempted to maintain a stable, undisturbed existence,

Alarmed by The Communist Bloc’s pattern of deceiving nations in an effort to enlist them into supporting the People’s Revolutionary Air Force (PRAF) in their brutal occupations, claiming justification under a thin veneer of progressive causes to disguise their ulterior and destructive motives,

Concerned that, should The Communist Bloc be allowed to complete this structural transition, their government will be strengthened, and emboldened in their efforts to wreak havoc upon innocent communities,

Optimistic that the passage of this resolution will serve as a hindrance to The Communist Bloc’s efforts to harm peaceful, inoffensive communities across the multiverse, or otherwise undermine their attempts at stability and growth,

Hereby injuncts The Communist Bloc.


Co-author: PhDre

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:16 am
by Zabloing
Support.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:17 am
by One Small Island
I was wondering who was gonna get to it first.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:17 am
by Quebecshire
Full support

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:18 am
by Kazaman
Full support from me as well.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:18 am
by Improper Classifications
This does not surprise me at all.

Two people have posted here since I wrote that

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:23 am
by Eternal Algerstonia
Quebecshire wrote:Full support
Kazaman wrote:Full support from me as well.
Zabloing wrote:Support.

least astroturfed security council thread

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:24 am
by Olvakistan
This reminds me of something from a time past...

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:37 am
by Boston Castle
As I remarked to Gleg off-site, I do find it funny that I was talking about this exact thing last night to Q. Regardless, full support from me.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:39 am
by -Astoria-
Bound to happen.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:46 am
by Wascoitan
if anyone wants more proof that defenderdom doesn't actually care about the wishes of natives and merely wants to force regions that don't agree with them to fall in line, look no further

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:49 am
by Galiantus III
Wascoitan wrote:if anyone wants more proof that defenderdom doesn't actually care about the wishes of natives and merely wants to force regions that don't agree with them to fall in line, look no further

It is perfectly rational to oppose having new nations be founded in overtly ideologically extreme regions.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:49 am
by Fort Concord
Wascoitan wrote:if anyone wants more proof that defenderdom doesn't actually care about the wishes of natives and merely wants to force regions that don't agree with them to fall in line, look no further

Gleg and PhDre aren't defenders, for one. For two, maybe TCB should do less griefing.

There's plenty to criticize us for, find better things.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:50 am
by Devious
Fort Concord wrote:
Wascoitan wrote:if anyone wants more proof that defenderdom doesn't actually care about the wishes of natives and merely wants to force regions that don't agree with them to fall in line, look no further

Gleg and PhDre aren't defenders, for one. For two, maybe TCB should do less griefing.

There's plenty to criticize us for, find better things.

Quebecshire wrote:Full support

noted non-defender *checks notes* Quebecshire?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:51 am
by Ramelia
Opposed, as the Delegate of a region that TCB once helped invade but is now a strong ally to.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:51 am
by Fort Concord
Devious wrote:
Fort Concord wrote:Gleg and PhDre aren't defenders, for one. For two, maybe TCB should do less griefing.

There's plenty to criticize us for, find better things.

Quebecshire wrote:Full support

noted non-defender *checks notes* Quebecshire?

Big if true.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:52 am
by UFROE
TCB is pretty evil and vile. Indie or not we truly deserve this for sure. Good work guys.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:52 am
by Alcala-Cordel
This is very obviously a politically motivated attack that does not accurately present the region and its actions. TCB is cool.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:55 am
by Endorse
Speedrunning badge running, three, two, one.

Hey, while we are at this and all, can we get Confederation of Corrupt Dictators too?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:59 am
by Libertia-Columbia
Ah, what a Security Council tradition. New mechanics have been introduced to the SC, and one of the first things the WASC defender-aligned clique does is to abuse those mechanics to punish regions they don't like and who don't align with them.

"Regional sovereignty is super important and paramount, except if we don't like the region, in which case we will happily throw regional sovereignty into the Mariana Trench for all eternity"

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:04 am
by Galactic Powers
Also with the double edged sword of preventing people from being founded in an explicitly communist region. Nice bonus If it passes.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:47 am
by New Makasta
I am happy to support this, draft looks good and gives good reasoning to support

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:57 am
by Tim-Opolis
A necessary and proper step to take.

Thank you WritingLegend and PhDre for addressing this pertinent issue.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:36 pm
by Socialist Platypus
I'm not someone that usually speaks out on the forums especially about WA proposals but I feel like I should on this one as I'm not sure to even understand why this is a proposition in the first place.
Is this just a case of "They do some raiding so they kinda deserve it"?
If that's all there is to it I guess it's my fault for expecting things to be amicable as the update drops out and thinking that everyone should have the right to enjoy the new features, especially if they are a long time founderless region with a strong standing, I guess.

I'm against this as a matter of principle, I don't want a situation where the smallest thing can get your region to get an injuction, this is the first proposition like this, and I feel like it passing would set a bad example for the WA as a whole.
I want to believe in an equality of opportunity and I'm not sure what stops any region from getting injucted and basically being denied access to the new feature for any small reasons, if the largest UCR gets hit by it because of that. Not a precedent I'm willing to have around, especially being member of a currently founderless region, that I would not like to see being injuct just because some people felt like it wether we actually want to do anything with it or not.

I do appreciate defenders spending their effort defending region around the site nonetheless I would rather Injuct keep at ones with good intent. I certainly don't want to see this devolve in a "You can do whatever you want as long as we are fine with it" situation, now or in the future, it would not be healthy for the site at all.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:37 pm
by Rabotia
Dimitri Angelopoulov enters his office, sits down at his desk, flips through the proposals that have piled up, stops at this one, and reads it thrice.

"Jesus, Mary and Joseph, and the wee donkey..."

He gets up, forcefully bangs his head against the wall a couple dozen times, decides he's already had enough for the day, and heads home.

OOC: No but srsly wtah