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by Fort Concord » Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:07 am
by The Xolbarian Opposition » Mon Jan 30, 2023 1:54 pm
Fort Concord wrote:Since Commend Sarah is nearing relative completion, here I am with another draft for your collective consumption. Consumption, hm? Almost like how one consumes food. And potatoes are a food? Anyway, here's commend Spiritus.
This is my first crack at a regional-level C/C, sobe nicelet's see how it goes. My co-authors are both new to Security Council authorship, both providing great help to this proposal focusing on research compilation and stylistic editing (Creeperopolis) and writing assistance (Ostrovskiy).
General Notes:
- Length is about 4744 characters, which gives us some fair breathing room. A difficulty with regional commends is deciding what to credit to an institution as opposed to specific people.
- Potato puns and shit! If you see ones that don't work, let me know. If you see places for more, also let me know!
Certain Inclusions (or lack of)
- NLO coup - Spiritus was involved but it seemed (comparatively) minor next to the Milograd and Gates/Osiris ones, so I've left it out. If people think it's worth including nontheless, I'd be happy to add it.
- TBR detagging - normally detagging doesn't come up as prime C/C material, but in research I found out that SDF cleaned up the last of TBR's tags, and that seemed like a great fun fact and historic note worth giving them proper credit for.
Specific notes aside, I'm happy to hear any and all feedback either here or elsewhere! Thank you to those who have helped so far!The Security Council,
Recalling that in 2012, the region Spiritus sprouted from the multiversal garden under the watchful guidance of the groundskeeper nation of The Spirit, growing to be a sizeable community that has endured for over a decade,
Grateful for the historic iteration of Spiritus’ defender military, the Spiritus Defense Force (SDF), which peaked in 2013–14 (with a later resurgence in 2015–17). This organization was dedicated to uprooting invader weeds from countless regions across hundreds of operations, famously:
- Operating in a coalition to liberate The Brotherhood of Muslim Nations, The Arab League, and Iraq, alongside several other militaries, all within the same deployment on 7 May 2013,
- Saving Persis, The Imperial League, and Blackrift from the unforgiving tendrils of invader control on 26 May 2013, another deployment including multiple critical liberations,
- Contributing to the renowned liberation of Anne Frank in late 2014, when the region was assailed by fascist militants,
- Wiping away the remaining vandalistic seeds of The Black Riders some time after their implosion from existence. This effort was spearheaded by members Storm and Blitze with foreign assistance by Ravania,
Congratulating Spiritus on their long-time diplomatic connections throughout the defender sphere, especially with the South Pacific, formalized by the implementation of the Lampshade Accords in 2015. This relationship has been the result of years of commitment to one another, such as the infamous 2013 Milograd coup d'état, during which, the SDF fought for the legitimate coalition, culminating in the restoration of the legitimate government,
Acclaiming Spiritus’ role in helping Osiris in 2013 during a period of upheaval in Osiris, when the region was subjected to a coup d'état by Gatesville Inc. (an organization previously condemned by this body). During this time, the SDF contributed extensive military support to the legitimate Kemetic Republic of Osiris and declared war on Gatesville for their transgressions,
Respecting the stoicism of Spiritus’ World Assembly Delegation, long represented by The Salaxalans (barring a brief hiatus in 2018-20), which has been a constant participant in the body, with stability and activity rivaling historic regions such as Texas, and eventually becoming an early member of the Partnership for Sovereignty bloc,
Praising the cultural prowess of the Spiritus community, being a key attribute of many inter-regional events, such as the Spirited Southern Rejects festival, a week-long event they co-hosted with fellow allies The South Pacific and The Rejected Realms in 2016 that included a plethora of games and social events for attendees to enjoy,
Adoring the annual cultural “Potato Pardon” tradition in Spiritus, overseen by The Salaxalans. Each year, two emotive potatoes are presented to the community of Spiritus, where they, along with other interested spectators, vote on which potato will be spared from a mashed or boiled demise,
Inspired by the community and alliance building, spearheaded by Spiritus via the Potato Alliance, an organization dedicated to mutual protection and aims during the regular nuclear apocalypses which have befallen the universe. Through The Quiescent Platypus and other Spiritus members’ persistence, it became an iconic fixture of the event for many years, notable for:
- Having humble beginnings as a Spiritus-oriented faction before plowing forth and rallying several like-minded regions from the defender sphere and corners of the world under the tater-banner, cultivating a fantastic atmosphere in the face of nuclear hellfire,
- Bursting into a second-place finish in the fifth nuclear apocalypse in a marvelous counterattack against the Horsemen of the Apocalypse, after being in hiding within the undergrowth of the very enemies that decimated them in the first wave,
- Finishing third in the seventh nuclear apocalypse, holding out against repetitive and intense nuclear hellfire as a result of the organization’s resolve and unmatched defensive skill amongst its leaders,
Recognizing the modern revival of the SDF, which, while not as large in size and activity as the historic iteration, has put its best efforts forward throughout 2022 in aiding siege and liberation efforts, amusingly with their spudly comrades in The Potato Union,
Looking back at Spiritus’ wondrous history, with their contributions to almost every aspect of the multiverse in protecting innocent regions, cultural prowess, and sowing a firmly positive reputation and influence on a community level,
Hereby commends the Baked Potato (with Cheese and Sour Cream) of Spiritus.
Co-authors: Creeperopolis, Ostrovskiy
Future drafts area because I forgot to snag the second post.The Security Council,
Recalling that in 2012, the region Spiritus sprouted from the multiversal garden under the watchful guidance of the groundskeeper nation of The Spirit, growing to be a sizeable community that has endured for over a decade,
Grateful for the historic iteration of Spiritus’ defender military, the Spiritus Defense Force (SDF), which peaked in 2013–14 (with a later resurgence in 2015–17). This organization was dedicated to uprooting invader weeds from countless regions across hundreds of operations, famously:
- Operating in a coalition to liberate The Brotherhood of Muslim Nations, The Arab League, and Iraq, alongside several other militaries, all within the same deployment on 7 May 2013,
- Saving Persis, The Imperial League, and Blackrift from the unforgiving tendrils of invader control on 26 May 2013, another deployment including multiple critical liberations,
- Contributing to the renowned liberation of Anne Frank in late 2014, when the region was assailed by fascist militants,
- Wiping away the seeds of The Black Riders from history, an organization which vanished from known existence. This effort was spearheaded by members Storm and Blitze with foreign assistance by Ravania,
Congratulating Spiritus on their long-time diplomatic connections throughout the defender sphere, especially with the South Pacific, formalized since the implementation of the Lampshade Accords in 2015. This relationship has been the result of years of commitment to one another, such as the infamous 2013 Milograd coup d'état, during which, the SDF fought for the legitimate coalition, culminating in the restoration of the legitimate government,
Acclaiming Spiritus’ role in helping Osirans in 2013 during a period of upheaval in Osiris, when the region was subjected to a coup d'état by Gatesville Inc. (an organization previously condemned by this body). During this time, the SDF contributed extensive military support to the legitimate Kemetic Republic of Osiris and declared war on Gatesville for their transgressions,
Respecting the stoicism of Spiritus’ World Assembly Delegation, long represented by The Salaxalans (barring a brief hiatus in 2018-20), which has been a constant participant in the body, with stability and activity rivaling historic regions such as Texas, and eventually becoming an early member of the Partnership for Sovereignty bloc,
Praising the cultural prowess of the Spiritus community, being a key attribute of many inter-regional events, such as the Spirited Southern Rejects festival, a week-long event they co-hosted with fellow allies The South Pacific and The Rejected Realms in 2016 that included a plethora of games and social events for attendees to enjoy,
Adoring the annual cultural “Potato Pardon” tradition in Spiritus, overseen by The Salaxalans. Each year, two emotive potatoes are presented to the community of Spiritus, where they, along with other interested spectators, vote on which potato will be spared from a mashed or boiled demise,
Inspired by the community and alliance building, spearheaded by Spiritus via the Potato Alliance, an organization dedicated to mutual protection and aims during the regular nuclear apocalypses which have befallen the universe. It has become an iconic fixture of the event for many years, notably for:
- Having humble beginnings as a Spiritus-oriented faction before plowing forth and rallying several like-minded regions from the defender sphere or other corners of the world under the tater-banner, cultivating a fantastic atmosphere in the face of nuclear hellfire,
- Bursting into a second-place finish in the fifth nuclear apocalypse in a marvelous counterattack against the Horsemen of the Apocalypse, after being in hiding within the undergrowth of the very enemies that decimated them in the first wave,
- Finishing third in the seventh nuclear apocalypse, holding out against repetitive and intense nuclear hellfire as a result of the organization’s resolve and unmatched defensive skill amongst its leaders,
Recognizing the modern revival of the SDF, which, while not as large in size and activity as the historic iteration, has put its best efforts forward throughout 2022 in aiding siege and liberation efforts, amusingly with their spudly comrades in The Potato Union,
Looking back at Spiritus’ wondrous history, with their contributions to almost every aspect of the multiverse in protecting innocent regions, cultural prowess, and sowing a firmly positive reputation and influence on a community level,
Hereby commends Spiritus.
by WayNeacTia » Tue Jan 31, 2023 1:13 am
Fort Concord wrote:Wayneactia wrote:Wiping away the remaining vandalistic seeds of The Black Riders some time after their implosion from existence. This effort was spearheaded by members Storm and Blitze with foreign assistance by Ravania,
I seem to recall (Soul's was it?) being in charge of TBR until the mods deleted the region. I also seem to recall a liberation attempt in the SC that was voted down.
As explained in the original post and clarified in my exchange with Tinhampton based on her feedback, this is not about the specific region "The Black Riders". This is about the SDF's campaign throughout late 2015 to remove all TBR tags from NS after the region had been destroyed/taken over/what have you - a successful campaign which, as intended, got rid of all remaining TBR tags.
If that's still unclear, still happy to take wording suggestions to make it more clear.
RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac
wait
by Team Leo » Tue Jan 31, 2023 9:06 am
Wayneactia wrote:Fort Concord wrote:As explained in the original post and clarified in my exchange with Tinhampton based on her feedback, this is not about the specific region "The Black Riders". This is about the SDF's campaign throughout late 2015 to remove all TBR tags from NS after the region had been destroyed/taken over/what have you - a successful campaign which, as intended, got rid of all remaining TBR tags.
If that's still unclear, still happy to take wording suggestions to make it more clear.
They detagged a bunch of regions. Yay I suppose. Tim and Sax have both been commended. How much more backpatting is actually required?
by Fort Concord » Tue Jan 31, 2023 1:37 pm
Wayneactia wrote:They detagged a bunch of regions. Yay I suppose. Tim and Sax have both been commended. How much more backpatting is actually required?
by Not A Plant » Tue Jan 31, 2023 2:01 pm
by Fort Concord » Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:54 pm
Not A Plant wrote:I've tried to stay away from NSGP, beyond the occasional positive affirmations of support, so forgive me for breaking that trend.
I think Spiritus deserves the commendation and am absolutely willing to give full support and also approval when the times comes with one minor change to guarantee it and that is dropping the word "legitimate."
I initially had my reasoning typed out for why it should be removed this but decided to simply suggest the change first, incase my reasoning is unnecessary or made on a wrongful assumption about why the word is included in there. I also want to say that it's inclusion isn't a complete deal break either.
To that end I will say briefly I think that the Security Council Resolution # 296 Condemn Gainesville Inc should be more than enough to prove that his coup and month long governance was seen by this body as illegitimate.
by Not A Plant » Wed Feb 01, 2023 6:45 am
Fort Concord wrote:Not A Plant wrote:I've tried to stay away from NSGP, beyond the occasional positive affirmations of support, so forgive me for breaking that trend.
I think Spiritus deserves the commendation and am absolutely willing to give full support and also approval when the times comes with one minor change to guarantee it and that is dropping the word "legitimate."
I initially had my reasoning typed out for why it should be removed this but decided to simply suggest the change first, incase my reasoning is unnecessary or made on a wrongful assumption about why the word is included in there. I also want to say that it's inclusion isn't a complete deal break either.
To that end I will say briefly I think that the Security Council Resolution # 296 Condemn Gainesville Inc should be more than enough to prove that his coup and month long governance was seen by this body as illegitimate.
I thought about this for a bit, and decided that makes sense. Implemented.
by Fort Concord » Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:22 am
by HumanSanity » Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:54 am
Fort Concord wrote:Good morning. I've made a couple tweaks to the Potato Alliance clause, and the final pre-operative clause. Commend Sarah is out of my hands and the SC seems otherwise quiet... so consider this a general bump for some more feedback and discussion as well.
Sandaoguo wrote:HS is worth 100 times more than the insubstantial (to borderline non-existent) benefits the TNP-TSP “alliance” has created over the last several years.
by Thorn1000 » Wed Feb 08, 2023 5:56 am
HumanSanity wrote:Fort Concord wrote:Good morning. I've made a couple tweaks to the Potato Alliance clause, and the final pre-operative clause. Commend Sarah is out of my hands and the SC seems otherwise quiet... so consider this a general bump for some more feedback and discussion as well.
I would wait on submission until after Spiritus leads the Potato Alliance to victory in N-Day later this month.
walrus wrote:Life is a zero-sum game. The lower I make the happiness of children, the higher my happiness rises
by Free Algerstonia » Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:06 am
by Fort Concord » Thu Feb 09, 2023 12:35 am
Thorn1000 wrote:HumanSanity wrote:I would wait on submission until after Spiritus leads the Potato Alliance to victory in N-Day later this month.
Would anything short of a perfect 0 score and 0 rad be commendable to the SC? Seems to me like nuking poor defenceless nations would be a bit more condemnable than commendable
by Intentionless Winds » Sat Feb 11, 2023 1:10 pm
by Ostrovskiy » Sat Feb 11, 2023 2:47 pm
Intentionless Winds wrote:Historically meaningful regions -- I mean by definition -- are talked about; the names are what-you-would-call-a "symbol", as in a "meaning-delivery-system". Like a very fattening chocolate éclair. Gatesville, TNP, 10KI, Hell, UDL, FRA, LWU, Texas, Europeia-- these I think you would agree have that quality, whether Spiritus does I really can't say. It's so subjective, unfortunately (so feel free to ignore this).
However, my thought on evaluating C&Cs: Regions of cultural significance deliver a very clear meaning, picture, character to the reader; Capture that character! Gates, chaosmonger. 10KI, (one word is needed) Moralists. What, of that kind of nature, can you say about Spiritus?
Apologies for the syntax and the pretension, but I'm entertained. (:
by Intentionless Winds » Sat Feb 11, 2023 2:55 pm
Ostrovskiy wrote:Intentionless Winds wrote:Historically meaningful regions -- I mean by definition -- are talked about; the names are what-you-would-call-a "symbol", as in a "meaning-delivery-system". Like a very fattening chocolate éclair. Gatesville, TNP, 10KI, Hell, UDL, FRA, LWU, Texas, Europeia-- these I think you would agree have that quality, whether Spiritus does I really can't say. It's so subjective, unfortunately (so feel free to ignore this).
However, my thought on evaluating C&Cs: Regions of cultural significance deliver a very clear meaning, picture, character to the reader; Capture that character! Gates, chaosmonger. 10KI, (one word is needed) Moralists. What, of that kind of nature, can you say about Spiritus?
Apologies for the syntax and the pretension, but I'm entertained. (:
Potato
by Ostrovskiy » Sat Feb 11, 2023 3:19 pm
by Quebecshire » Sat Feb 11, 2023 3:32 pm
Intentionless Winds wrote:Yeah, that's dumb. (:
Intentionless Winds wrote:[OOC: The SC is much more fun if you act like me, a radical. I'm only trying to improve the draft -- if you want to make it a joke commend... Cool bro.]
Benevolent Thomas wrote:I founded a defender organization out of my dislike of invaders, what invading represents, and my desire to see them suffer.
Pergamon wrote:I must say, you are truly what they deserve.
by Intentionless Winds » Sat Feb 11, 2023 3:50 pm
by Westinor » Sat Feb 11, 2023 3:50 pm
Intentionless Winds wrote:Historically meaningful regions -- I mean by definition -- are talked about; the names are what-you-would-call-a "symbol", as in a "meaning-delivery-system". Like a very fattening chocolate éclair. Gatesville, TNP, 10KI, Hell, UDL, FRA, LWU, Texas, Europeia-- these I think you would agree have that quality, whether Spiritus does I really can't say. It's so subjective, unfortunately (so feel free to ignore this).
However, my thought on evaluating C&Cs: Regions of cultural significance deliver a very clear meaning, picture, character to the reader; Capture that character! Gates, chaosmonger. 10KI, (one word is needed) Moralists. What, of that kind of nature, can you say about Spiritus?
Apologies for the syntax and the pretension, but I'm entertained. (:
by Ostrovskiy » Sat Feb 11, 2023 3:58 pm
Intentionless Winds wrote:Ostro: If you'd like, I can make actionable suggestions on how to do what I suggest (this, I think, is what Queb is trying to get off of me). I don't think I should do that unsolicited. I don't want to step on your shoes or mess with your style.
by Hulldom » Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:07 pm
Westinor wrote:Intentionless Winds wrote:Historically meaningful regions -- I mean by definition -- are talked about; the names are what-you-would-call-a "symbol", as in a "meaning-delivery-system". Like a very fattening chocolate éclair. Gatesville, TNP, 10KI, Hell, UDL, FRA, LWU, Texas, Europeia-- these I think you would agree have that quality, whether Spiritus does I really can't say. It's so subjective, unfortunately (so feel free to ignore this).
However, my thought on evaluating C&Cs: Regions of cultural significance deliver a very clear meaning, picture, character to the reader; Capture that character! Gates, chaosmonger. 10KI, (one word is needed) Moralists. What, of that kind of nature, can you say about Spiritus?
Apologies for the syntax and the pretension, but I'm entertained. (:
The point here, in some sense, is valid, as it applies to "historically meaningful regions" - all the regions you've listed are recognized or commended for their adjacency to particularly clear points of Gameplay. They're leaders in certain areas that have made direct impacts by way of their presence in gameplay, this is true.
But I would point out that "Regions of cultural significance" =/= "Historically meaningful regions". The latter sees all your mentioned regions; I would argue Spiritus doesn't fall under that point. The former, most certainly, describes Spiritus - without a doubt, though their impact on NS communities is in no way particularly heavy-handed nor incredibly moving in a sense that one could look at an event and say "oh, heck, there goes Spiritus!" (besides N-Day, perhaps) - I would argue that the culture promoted by Spiritus, a simultaneous detachment, recognition, and respect for and within gameplay, is omnipresent in Gameplay and other areas of the site, like Cards (in which many Spiritian(?) leaders thrive) or N-Day. Name "Spiritus" in gameplay, the World Assembly, R/D, Cards, wherever it is, and you'll get a response - players recognize it as one of those havens of thriving culture and a unique character inherent to its nature that make this site so much more than a political tug-of-war between regional leaders. That, is to its commendability, and I would argue that, beyond uprooting (mwahahah) the very nature of this proposal to reflect a completely different and whimsically structured draft (see "Commend Haiku"), there is little along the lines of theming that is otherwise available here, and I would argue even that course of action wouldn't necessarily be the correct way to go.
by Intentionless Winds » Sat Feb 11, 2023 6:28 pm
Monological paragraph on Spiritus, its culture, and its influence; broad, no evidentiary or argumentative comment.
The Security Council,
Important part of Spiritus culture/practices/history (e.g. coup defense, N-Day)
Important part of Spiritus culture/practices/history (e.g. coup defense, N-Day)
Important part of Spiritus culture/practices/history (e.g. coup defense, N-Day)
Important part of Spiritus culture/practices/history (e.g. coup defense, N-Day)
Important part of Spiritus culture/practices/history (e.g. coup defense, N-Day)
Important part of Spiritus culture/practices/history (e.g. coup defense, N-Day)
etc
[no concluding clause; no unnecessary details anywhere]
Hereby commends the Baked Potato (with Cheese and Sour Cream) of Spiritus.
I would argue that the culture promoted by Spiritus, a simultaneous detachment, recognition, and respect for and within gameplay, is omnipresent in Gameplay and other areas of the site, like Cards (in which many Spiritian(?) leaders thrive) or N-Day. Name "Spiritus" in gameplay, the World Assembly, R/D, Cards, wherever it is, and you'll get a response - players recognize it as one of those havens of thriving culture and a unique character inherent to its nature that make this site so much more than a political tug-of-war between regional leaders.
by Ostrovskiy » Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:42 pm
Intentionless Winds wrote:Ostro --
My suggestion--and I can give more detail or make direct rearrangments--is to break away (be bold) from the traditional format; we don't have to, but we can, and it would help, so we should. The real reason we're commending Spiritus is known to the all the mainstream regions--we know Spiritus, they've been helpful in defending, they're chill, they make the game more fun--and does not need to be supported by historical evidence; actually, I think evidence, particularly the very specific kind, detracts from these arguments -- they make the region feel less unique, because all the evidence's always the same. But Spiritus is unique. We can play on that.
So:Monological paragraph on Spiritus, its culture, and its influence; broad, no evidentiary or argumentative comment.
The Security Council,
Important part of Spiritus culture/practices/history (e.g. coup defense, N-Day)
Important part of Spiritus culture/practices/history (e.g. coup defense, N-Day)
Important part of Spiritus culture/practices/history (e.g. coup defense, N-Day)
Important part of Spiritus culture/practices/history (e.g. coup defense, N-Day)
Important part of Spiritus culture/practices/history (e.g. coup defense, N-Day)
Important part of Spiritus culture/practices/history (e.g. coup defense, N-Day)
etc
[no concluding clause; no unnecessary details anywhere]
Hereby commends the Baked Potato (with Cheese and Sour Cream) of Spiritus.
The first paragraph would cover all the things that the forums often tell us, but the resolution's rarely do. And it's simple. Just say why you think they should be commended. It'll be accentuated; the reader's focus will be on that paragraph. They will come out of that resolution knowing exactly why Spiritus definitely deserves to be commended--what makes Spiritus a unique region. See my response to West below.
Also, one very minor suggestion: Date SDF once or imply an era -- don't bog us in historical detail. Please don't hurt the mythos.
And I love the usage of words like "sprouted" and "garden"; it's icing on the cake.
By the way, I'm aware there is no chance of Queb taking any of my suggestions. That's more satisfying when I'm proven right.
by Westinor » Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:04 pm
Ostrovskiy wrote:Intentionless Winds wrote:Ostro --
My suggestion--and I can give more detail or make direct rearrangments--is to break away (be bold) from the traditional format; we don't have to, but we can, and it would help, so we should. The real reason we're commending Spiritus is known to the all the mainstream regions--we know Spiritus, they've been helpful in defending, they're chill, they make the game more fun--and does not need to be supported by historical evidence; actually, I think evidence, particularly the very specific kind, detracts from these arguments -- they make the region feel less unique, because all the evidence's always the same. But Spiritus is unique. We can play on that.
So:
The first paragraph would cover all the things that the forums often tell us, but the resolution's rarely do. And it's simple. Just say why you think they should be commended. It'll be accentuated; the reader's focus will be on that paragraph. They will come out of that resolution knowing exactly why Spiritus definitely deserves to be commended--what makes Spiritus a unique region. See my response to West below.
Also, one very minor suggestion: Date SDF once or imply an era -- don't bog us in historical detail. Please don't hurt the mythos.
And I love the usage of words like "sprouted" and "garden"; it's icing on the cake.
By the way, I'm aware there is no chance of Queb taking any of my suggestions. That's more satisfying when I'm proven right.
I don't quite understand what you're getting at. Is it a rewrite that looks somewhat like this:
"Spiritus deserves to be commended for its massive endeavors throughout all of the multiverse. It's culture is phenomenal, its contributions to the nuclear apocalypses are immense, it has left its mark throughout defenderdom, and its WA delegation continues to benefit this body every day. It is a region that makes every branch of the Multiversal tree it touches better.
The Security Council,
[a few specific details]
Commends Spiritus"?
I'd like more details, please.
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