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Offensive liberation, founder puppetswept. Proposal link: https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1673286208

The Security Council,

Establishing Islamic States as a region which has devoted its resources to supporting operations of colonialism and oppression against innocent regions,

Aghast that the custodial nation of the region, Islamic States, has rapidly collapsed into a state of nothingness, compelled by miraculous factors beyond the understanding of the world’s governments,

Concerned that the malevolent forces of invading will attempt to secure their effective puppet state from counter-invasion, thereby denying the scorned and mistreated regions of the world a chance at an act of justice,

Calling upon the nations of the global community to spread the Security Council mission of international peace and goodwill by permanently silencing the target region through counter-invasion as retribution for its crimes,

Hereby liberates Islamic States.

We don't even know why Jawi was puppet swept yet. Killer instincts sharp as ever.

You'd make a great raider if you took the mask off, Queb.

Proof that we supported colonalism? If there's any show me

Against. Proposal was not drafted.

Against! This is slander!

against, this is very haram

Islamic States has engaged in supporting the destruction of countless regions such as The Mystical Council, and supported less successful attacks. Most recently, Sunland, only saved by a defender refound snipe though a lot of history lost.

Apologies for the drafting situation, but given the raider mobilization already, it's necessary.

Hi Q,

Care to give a bit more context? What is IS and why the push to liberate it? I mean I know what you’re saying in the proposal, but for those of us who only peripherally get involve in GP a bit more detail would be useful.

Edit: we must have posted at the same time - didn’t see your post before I submitted mine.

I can't believe I'm agreeing with Vavlar, but I agree with Vavlar. Why is this a matter of urgency? The Delegate, who is the most influential resident of IS, has about 920 influence. He cannot even impose a visible password on the region until he has 1,700 influence (as of 1758 GMT), which will take him eight-and-a-half days if he remains on 45 endoes; an invisible password demands twice as much.

I am a native of this region, and part of its remaining leadership. The operation undergoing was called for and supported by us, to help the natives of the region maintain stability in the deletion of the founder nation. We have no idea why they were deleted, but our region was not just made up of one person. As Grand Vizier of IS, I do not support this heinous misrepresentation of what's going on. The true liberators are the ones helping us secure our community in this chaotic time. If you dare call yourself a Defender, then pile up.

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Hi Q,

Care to give a bit more context? What is IS and why the push to liberate it? I mean I know what you’re saying in the proposal, but for those of us who only peripherally get involve in GP a bit more detail would be useful.

Sorry, been a bit busy today. It's a raider region which supports BoM operations continuously, and the founder regularly attempted to employ a sleeper network against a lot of smaller regions, such as Cuba for a recent example of that.

Shayk wrote:I am a native of this region, and part of its remaining leadership. The operation undergoing was called for and supported by us, to help the natives of the region maintain stability in the deletion of the founder nation. We have no idea why they were deleted, but our region was not just made up of one person. As Grand Vizier of IS, I do not support this heinous misrepresentation of what's going on. The true liberators are the ones helping us secure our community in this chaotic time. If you dare call yourself a Defender, then pile up.

IS is listed on Suspicious as a raider unity adherent and you have a treaty with BoM.

Against, No reason to assume your reasons for invasion are any superior to the reasons for the attacks of the "Islamic States"

Arshanid Deccan wrote:Against, No reason to assume your reasons for invasion are any superior to the reasons for the attacks of the "Islamic States"

For starters, every day raiders are preoccupied trying to protect IS, they're not raiding innocent regions.

Rhaza wrote:Most recently, Sunland, only saved by a defender refound snipe though a lot of history lost.

Late congrats on that, by the way, but I saved the supposed "lot" of history (81 RMB posts before the occupation) if you want it: Sunland RMB

There's also plenty of page saves on the Wayback Machine, including one I took just before refound.

I have it on good authority that Islamic States possesses weapons of mass destruction on standby for use within 45 minutes. Thneedville supports this proposal.

Allah condemns you

Let's not with inappropriate irl allusions or other stuff of that sort, please.

this idea is denounced, very haram

inshallah!

Islamic war code does not allow unjust attack. Pretty sure my comrades know this.

This doesn't seem like much of, anything, sure the region has done some things, but I doubt it will do much after their founder has since imploded, at least that's what I believe, I don't know much on the background of this region. I've read most of the thread and I can't see this get very much mileage, I'm mixed on this one. Also I thought Sunland was just some storage region with very little going on besides some tag raids by Lily or what not. From what I saw on it they had ceased officers with very little going on.

Cookies wrote:This doesn't seem like much of, anything, sure the region has done some things, but I doubt it will do much after their founder has since imploded, at least that's what I believe, I don't know much on the background of this region. I've read most of the thread and I can't see this get very much mileage, I'm mixed on this one. Also I thought Sunland was just some storage region with very little going on besides some tag raids by Lily or what not. From what I saw on it they had ceased officers with very little going on.

They've supported every major invasion of 2022, and the founder got puppetswept. It's pretty clear to me that the region should be counter-invaded, or at the very least, from a pragmatic standpoint, keeping raider WAs tied up there is good for everyone else.

ٱلشَّهْرُ ٱلْحَرَامُ بِٱلشَّهْرِ ٱلْحَرَامِ وَٱلْحُرُمَـٰتُ قِصَاصٌۭ ۚ فَمَنِ ٱعْتَدَىٰ عَلَيْكُمْ فَٱعْتَدُوا۟ عَلَيْهِ بِمِثْلِ مَا ٱعْتَدَىٰ عَلَيْكُمْ ۚ وَٱتَّقُوا۟ ٱللَّهَ وَٱعْلَمُوٓا۟ أَنَّ ٱللَّهَ مَعَ ٱلْمُتَّقِينَ
There will be retaliation in a sacred month for an offense in a sacred month, and all violations will bring about retaliation. So, if anyone attacks you, retaliate in the same manner. But be mindful of Allah, and know that Allah is with those mindful of Him.

Surah Al-Baqarah - 194

Griefers deserve to be griefed.

If Islamic States wanted protection from destruction, then maybe they should have reconsidered being a party to the destruction of sovereign regions for this past year. The circumstances of their Founder’s sweep is irrelevant. This is a region of griefers, and when griefer regions are vulnerable they should be destroyed. An offensive liberation makes complete sense in this context, just like it would against larger raider regions like BoM or TBH if they went founderless.

Even if they've been an incredibly influential part of the operations of 2022, I'd still like to know how and why the founder got puppetswept.