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Posted: **Sat Dec 17, 2022 11:27 pm**

The fight for New Westphalia goes on. In the meantime, to push back against potential region destruction, the native Delegate and I have authored this proposal. Thank you to all defenders and others who helped!

The Security Council,

Admiring the community of New Westphalia as one with a storied history of resilience across both regions and years, relocating from Westphalia to RHINIA in the face of raider adversity in 2018, and eventually New Westphalia to preserve the decade-old Westphalian community of nations,

Recognizing Free City of Rigia as the legal sovereign of New Westphalia and its community as a long-time native, serving as the delegate multiple times, being the incumbent officeholder, and long-time caretaker of the community prior to the ongoing invasion,

Saddened by the seizure of New Westphalia by raider forces, and noting with alarm that the militaries involved in the ongoing occupation have a pattern of affinity with region destruction beyond repair,

Affirming the natives’ desire to move to a region with a more robust security apparatus in the aftermath of this conflict, and safeguard New Westphalia under native control throughout that process rather than have it be destroyed via a hostile reestablishment,

Encouraging the international community to communicate with and assist the native Westphalians in securing and preserving their region following the removal of raider forces,

Hereby liberates New Westphalia.

Co-author: Free City of Rigia

Posted: **Sat Dec 17, 2022 11:40 pm**

Full support.

Posted: **Sat Dec 17, 2022 11:41 pm**

Never thought I'd be backing my own liberation. Again.

For those unaware, I was the Delegate for the original Westphalia back in 2018 and I witnessed my home region be de-populated and eventually destroyed. I encourage all to back this proposal to show the raiders that they cannot, without a care in the world, invade and destroy innocent regions and disrupt communities.

Posted: **Sat Dec 17, 2022 11:53 pm**

Free City of Rigia wrote:I encourage all to back this proposal to show the raiders that they cannot, without a care in the world, invade and destroy innocent regions and disrupt communities.

We can't?

Posted: **Sat Dec 17, 2022 11:56 pm**

Full support

Posted: **Sun Dec 18, 2022 12:05 am**

13 hours in the raid and defenders already made a proposal. Support.

Posted: **Sun Dec 18, 2022 12:09 am**

Refiria wrote:Full support

Thank you my dear friend qekitor

The Hurricane wrote:13 hours in the raid and defenders already made a proposal. Support.

Raiders and co in February: Haha stupid defenders didn't do the SC proposal quickly, we outsmarted you and blocked TMC's lib!

Raiders and co now: WOW cringe defenders being cautious and doing SC liberations quickly to ensure a region's safety during an ongoing siege? Lazy quitters!

C'mon, let's up our game here with the agendaposting.

Posted: **Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:50 am**

Very little to comment about the draft - native support, tick. Well written, tick. Good reasons for liberation, tick. Legal, tick.

Posted: **Sun Dec 18, 2022 6:54 am**

Free City of Rigia wrote:Never thought I'd be backing my own liberation. Again.

I have been under the assumption that New Westphalia was not affiliated with the original Westphalia’s founder, but I’m not certain that’s the case. So a question for you: is your founder the same person as the original Westphalia’s? My memory is somewhat vague, but I believe both attempts to pass a Liberation for the original Westphalia failed due to its founder’s history (and some other things).

Rhaza wrote:Raiders and co in February: Haha stupid defenders didn't do the SC proposal quickly, we outsmarted you and blocked TMC's lib!

Not exactly an inaccurate observation, is it? You did part of the work for us by having a defender submit a repeal of a commend while the raid was ongoing, and we did the rest. Credit where it’s due, though, you learned from your mistakes.

Raiders and co now: WOW cringe defenders being cautious and doing SC liberations quickly to ensure a region's safety during an ongoing siege? Lazy quitters!

I don’t believe it’s unfair to say that if you had confidence in your ability to liberate the region through conventional means we would not be seeing a Liberation submitted with such haste. While I can’t say I disapprove that you’re taking the threat to the region seriously, the fact that you are demonstrates you are not sure you can end the raid by force.

Posted: **Sun Dec 18, 2022 7:05 am**

A Bloodred Moon wrote:So a question for you: is your founder the same person as the original Westphalia’s?

No. The original founder of Westphalia has not held the foundership of the community's region since the original Westphalia. The Westphalian community has endured for some time (since around late 2017 or early 2018, from what I can tell) without any involvement from the original gameside founder.

Posted: **Sun Dec 18, 2022 7:07 am**

Support

Posted: **Sun Dec 18, 2022 7:16 am**

Full support.

The Republic of Zabloing will partake in helping free New Westphalia.

Posted: **Sun Dec 18, 2022 11:07 am**

Full support.

Raiders are the parasitic dredges of humanity: only feeling happy and wanted when they're destroying other peoples communities and happiness. They invade regions with long, storied histories and vibrant communities, and destroy them.

The fact that some people spend hours a day and have 20+ accounts used purely for the purposes of messing with other people on some early 2000s nation simulator game is equal parts baffling and depressing to me.

Posted: **Sun Dec 18, 2022 11:50 am**

This has my support.

Posted: **Sun Dec 18, 2022 12:05 pm**

Full support brothers!

Posted: **Sun Dec 18, 2022 12:56 pm**

Full support. The sovereignty of New Westphalia will be maintained, and success will be at its doorstep before their embassies close. END RAIDING! LONG LIVE NEW WESTPHALIA!

Posted: **Sun Dec 18, 2022 2:16 pm**

Veneti Marsei wrote:Full support.

Raiders are the parasitic dredges of humanity: only feeling happy and wanted when they're destroying other peoples communities and happiness. They invade regions with long, storied histories and vibrant communities, and destroy them.

The fact that some people spend hours a day and have 20+ accounts used purely for the purposes of messing with other people on some early 2000s nation simulator game is equal parts baffling and depressing to me.

Referring to other users on this site as "parasitic dredges of humanity" nets you a *** WARNING for Flaming ***

Next time, please resort to less colourful language to voice your disapproval of the Raider community.

Posted: **Sun Dec 18, 2022 2:47 pm**

Support.

Posted: **Sun Dec 18, 2022 6:58 pm**

The Orwell Society wrote:Support.

Thank you so much, Vice President Ambrossa

!

Posted: **Sun Dec 18, 2022 10:24 pm**

The Hurricane wrote:C'mon, let's up our game here with the agendaposting.

Try being original for a change? The region is less them a year old. If defenders can't protect their own allies, then what use a liberation, other than another shiny badge and a manufactured victory? I honestly believed you guys would be far more concerned about stripping raider badges and backpatting your friends.

Posted: **Sun Dec 18, 2022 10:32 pm**

I am pleased to inform all delegates that New Westphalia, after 1 day and 12 hours, has been liberated by the natives. I am glad to see this as one of the initial supporters of the resolution.

Posted: **Sun Dec 18, 2022 11:02 pm**

~Celebrate Good Times, Come On!~

Posted: **Sun Dec 18, 2022 11:25 pm**

Wayneactia wrote:
The Hurricane wrote:C'mon, let's up our game here with the agendaposting.

Try being original for a change? The region is less them a year old. If defenders can't protect their own allies, then what use a liberation, other than another shiny badge and a manufactured victory? I honestly believed you guys would be far more concerned about stripping raider badges and backpatting your friends.

A manufactured victory, Wayne said. Yet it ended up being the first outright victory since China in November 2021.
Ah, good to know you are far from an actual leadership position because your pessimism would stifle any region.

Posted: **Sun Dec 18, 2022 11:41 pm**

The Universe World wrote:
Wayneactia wrote:Try being original for a change? The region is less them a year old. If defenders can't protect their own allies, then what use a liberation, other than another shiny badge and a manufactured victory? I honestly believed you guys would be far more concerned about stripping raider badges and backpatting your friends.

A manufactured victory, Wayne said. Yet it ended up being the first outright victory since China in November 2021.
Ah, good to know you a far from an actual leadership position because your pessimism would stifle any region.

If the liberation had passed, raiders would have pulled out. Thus a manufactured victory. Do at least try and keep up if you are going to beak. As for leadership? Someone else can do that shit, I deal with enough shit in real life. This is something I check in on while I am waiting for something or sitting on the john.

Posted: **Sun Dec 18, 2022 11:50 pm**

Changed vote to against based on new developments.

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[DEFEATED] Liberate New Westphalia

[DEFEATED] Liberate New Westphalia