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by Desmosthenes and Burke » Wed Feb 08, 2023 5:43 pm
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by Eastern Canadian Nation » Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:11 pm
by WayNeacTia » Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:28 pm
RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac
wait
by The North Polish Union » Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:56 pm
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:keep your wet opinions to yourself. Byzantium and Ottoman will not come again. Whoever thinks of this wet dream will feel the power of the Republic's secular army.
Minskiev wrote:You are GP's dross.
Petrovsegratsk wrote:NPU, I know your clearly a Polish nationalist, but wtf is up with your obssession with resurrecting the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth?
The yoshin empire wrote:Grouping russians with slavs is like grouping germans with french , the two are so culturally different.
by Svedonia » Thu Feb 09, 2023 1:53 am
by Attempted Socialism » Thu Feb 09, 2023 2:41 am
Gruenberg wrote:Awesome to see such a mordantly unfunny shitheap of a proposal going down in flames.
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by HM Queen Elizabeth III » Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:33 am
by Straona » Thu Feb 09, 2023 6:26 am
Comfed wrote:HM Queen Elizabeth III wrote:I believe there to be a difference in enforcing, and agreeing to enforce, the law that has been passed by the General Assembly and having provisions which make the General Assembly supraconstitutional, which is anathema to many democracies and a variety of other diverse forms of governance.
Additionally, even if it is true, that this is how the World Assembly has always worked, that does not make it right, just because that's always how we have done it. To quote one of my favourite books, “But merely being tradition does not make something worthy, Kadash. We can’t just assume that because something is old it is right" (Oathbringer, Brandon Sanderson).
This resolution does not change the fact the supremacy of World Assembly law. It is already supreme. That is not going to change. If you don't like that, well, World Assembly membership is entirely voluntary.
by Untecna » Thu Feb 09, 2023 8:31 am
Wayneactia wrote:Well..... This is embarrassing now isn't it? We repeal #2 and now we can't get a replacement passed. Seeing as how #2 was the only resolution that contained a supremacy clause, nations are pretty much free to do as the please. (we have finally achieved the dream of becoming just like the actual United Nations) So now instead of the WA doing its job behind the scenes, we have instead told the U.S. House of Representatives to "hold our beer" and proceeded to light our own hair on fire. God I love this place.....
by Kenmoria » Thu Feb 09, 2023 12:39 pm
Untecna wrote:Wayneactia wrote:Well..... This is embarrassing now isn't it? We repeal #2 and now we can't get a replacement passed. Seeing as how #2 was the only resolution that contained a supremacy clause, nations are pretty much free to do as the please. (we have finally achieved the dream of becoming just like the actual United Nations) So now instead of the WA doing its job behind the scenes, we have instead told the U.S. House of Representatives to "hold our beer" and proceeded to light our own hair on fire. God I love this place.....
Only in the WA do ambassadors regularly drink and subsequently do nothing else
by Untecna » Thu Feb 09, 2023 12:40 pm
Kenmoria wrote:Deputy Ambassador John Smith - “In response to comments from various delegations, I would emphasis that the entire purpose of the General Assembly is to be a body that promulgates binding international law. If it makes laws which can be overridden through creative compliance, through constitutional overrides, or through negation of sanctions, then it hardly makes laws at all. It is for this reason that it is necessary, explicitly, to state the power of the law of the General Assembly as being entirely suzerain.”Untecna wrote:Only in the WA do ambassadors regularly drink and subsequently do nothing else
(OOC: The transition of the WAHQ from a political headquarters of the multiverse to the multiverse’s finest bar with rooms is finally complete. Behold how sobriety has fallen!)
by Kaphellonia » Thu Feb 09, 2023 1:15 pm
by Tinhampton » Thu Feb 09, 2023 1:29 pm
Kaphellonia wrote:"It's a shame to see that the WA will not be united under a common goal because so many member nations refuse to actually participate. Again, membership in the WA is not required. Why are you here if you do not want to create international law and follow it? Why vote on anything if it has zero effect? Why not leave and let the rest of us who actually want to be a part of a cooperative international community do what we came here to do? Every nation voting against this proposal might as well resign from the WA since they clearly want nothing to do with it."
by Galactic Powers » Thu Feb 09, 2023 1:35 pm
Wayneactia wrote:Well..... This is embarrassing now isn't it? We repeal #2 and now we can't get a replacement passed. Seeing as how #2 was the only resolution that contained a supremacy clause, nations are pretty much free to do as the please. (we have finally achieved the dream of becoming just like the actual United Nations) So now instead of the WA doing its job behind the scenes, we have instead told the U.S. House of Representatives to "hold our beer" and proceeded to light our own hair on fire. God I love this place.....
by Kaphellonia » Thu Feb 09, 2023 1:43 pm
Comfed wrote:OOC:It was supreme until repealed. Also, you realize some regions require you to be in the WA in order to have access to their forums and any other content they have. Not everyone joins the WA to participate.
IC: While you have a good point ambassador, oppose.
by Terra dei Cittadini » Thu Feb 09, 2023 2:56 pm
by Straona » Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:50 pm
Kaphellonia wrote:Comfed wrote:OOC:It was supreme until repealed. Also, you realize some regions require you to be in the WA in order to have access to their forums and any other content they have. Not everyone joins the WA to participate.
IC: While you have a good point ambassador, oppose.
IC: "Forgive me ambassador, but it Kaphellonia we'd call that some malakíes!"
OOC: Then don't join that region if you don't want to be a part of the WA and participate? There are plenty of regions to choose from or you can even create your own. That's no excuse to ruin the experience for everyone else who wants their votes and their proposals to actually do something! Without a GA#2 replacement the WA is basically useless. And what about all the people who have spent time and energy working on proposals that now essentially amount to nothing because nations don't have to follow them even if they get passed! Some people in the WA have spent hundreds of hours working on this stuff and trying to create an interactive community just for people who don't even want to be here to come in and try to suppress it.
by Straona » Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:54 pm
Kaphellonia wrote:"It's a shame to see that the WA will not be united under a common goal because so many member nations refuse to actually participate. Again, membership in the WA is not required. Why are you here if you do not want to create international law and follow it? Why vote on anything if it has zero effect? Why not leave and let the rest of us who actually want to be a part of a cooperative international community do what we came here to do? Every nation voting against this proposal might as well resign from the WA since they clearly want nothing to do with it."
by Comfed » Thu Feb 09, 2023 4:56 pm
Kaphellonia wrote:Without a GA#2 replacement the WA is basically useless. And what about all the people who have spent time and energy working on proposals that now essentially amount to nothing because nations don't have to follow them even if they get passed! Some people in the WA have spent hundreds of hours working on this stuff and trying to create an interactive community just for people who don't even want to be here to come in and try to suppress it.
Straona wrote:It was supreme until repealed. Also, you realize some regions require you to be in the WA in order to have access to their forums and any other content they have. Not everyone joins the WA to participate.
by Rovere » Thu Feb 09, 2023 6:49 pm
by HM Queen Elizabeth III » Thu Feb 09, 2023 6:56 pm
by Caymarnia » Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:29 pm
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