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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2022 2:44 pm
by Quebecshire
This has been submitted.

PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2022 2:46 pm
by Astrobolt
This came together really well! Best of luck and let’s get this done.

PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2022 3:34 pm
by Morover
Support :) nice job, Quebec

PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2022 4:12 pm
by Fachumonn
Quebecshire wrote:This has been submitted.

This has been approved.

PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2022 4:16 pm
by Bormiar
Fachumonn wrote:
Quebecshire wrote:This has been submitted.

This has been approved.

Please with the yellow.

PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2022 4:33 pm
by Quebecshire
Morover wrote:Support :) nice job, Quebec

A lot of the choice wording is due to the help of Luca, but nonetheless, thank you. Nearly to quorum already!

PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2022 4:42 pm
by New Astri
"...Confederacy of Layem's attempts fortify itself"

just realized there was a typo no one caught, lmfao. whoops

PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2022 4:43 pm
by Quebecshire
New Astri wrote:"...Confederacy of Layem's attempts fortify itself"

just realized there was a typo no one caught, lmfao. whoops

Damn. That's gonna annoy me a bit, but we move.

Edit: I also jokingly said I should withdraw it, fix the typo, and re-submit it in VC and Mira and Hulldom screamed at me so lmfao we're gonna live with this one.

PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2022 4:45 pm
by Tinhampton
I mean I wouldn't worry about that tooooooooooooooooooooooo much given that A: I didn't even notice that Commend Cassadaigua had a similar error until about three days ago ("Courtney Ferguson, who captained the Cassadagan football team from their debut in 30th Baptism of Fire...") and B: this would still pass with 85% of the vote even if it were just the letter "E" repeated 4,174 times :P

PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2022 4:46 pm
by Fachumonn
Bormiar wrote:
Fachumonn wrote:This has been approved.

Please with the yellow.

? Use Dark Theme...

PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2022 4:47 pm
by Honeydewistania
Commend TRF has the death-penalty worthy error of using ‘lead’ instead of ‘led’, so you should be fine

PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2022 4:49 pm
by Nova Vandalia
Bormiar wrote:Please with the yellow.


Please

Please with the yellow, as requested.

PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2022 4:55 pm
by New Astri
Quebecshire wrote:
New Astri wrote:"...Confederacy of Layem's attempts fortify itself"

just realized there was a typo no one caught, lmfao. whoops

Damn. That's gonna annoy me a bit, but we move.

Edit: I also jokingly said I should withdraw it, fix the typo, and re-submit it in VC and Mira and Hulldom screamed at me so lmfao we're gonna live with this one.


honestly it's funny as fuck this way. an incredibly short proposal with a semi-obvious typo in it (although very well-written overall! 'caustic' is excellent word choice) getting sent to quorum within about 2 hours and 15 minutes because the people it's targeting really aren't great is just Fantastic. this will absolutely be up there as one of the most voted-for resolutions in history, and the amount of updaters attending the raid afterwards is probably going to be nuts. how quickly the entire ns community shows up when there's an opportunity to kick an ooc-shitty region around is hilarious and honestly a little heartwarming. there's gonna be an nstoday article on this one 4 sure

edit: yep, just hit quorum. insert confetti popper emoji here

PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2022 4:57 pm
by Quebecshire
New Astri wrote:
Quebecshire wrote:Damn. That's gonna annoy me a bit, but we move.

Edit: I also jokingly said I should withdraw it, fix the typo, and re-submit it in VC and Mira and Hulldom screamed at me so lmfao we're gonna live with this one.


honestly it's funny as fuck this way. an incredibly short proposal with a semi-obvious typo in it (although very well-written overall! 'caustic' is excellent word choice) getting sent to quorum within about 2 hours and 15 minutes because the people it's targeting really aren't great is just Fantastic. this will absolutely be up there as one of the most voted-for resolutions in history, and the amount of updaters attending the raid afterwards is probably going to be nuts. how quickly the entire ns community shows up when there's an opportunity to kick an ooc-shitty region around is hilarious and honestly a little heartwarming. there's gonna be an nstoday article on this one 4 sure

2 hours 18 minutes to be exact! We'll see how it goes at vote assuming it stays in queue. Nice stuff.

PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2022 5:45 pm
by Refuge Isle
New Astri wrote:just realized there was a typo no one caught, lmfao. whoops

Ah, the perils of a two hour drafting session.
New Astri wrote:honestly it's funny as fuck this way. an incredibly short proposal with a semi-obvious typo in it (although very well-written overall! 'caustic' is excellent word choice)

thanks uwu

PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2022 6:03 pm
by Bormiar
I'm for this proposal.

However, it seems Layem is yet another case of a region which would have no impact on anything if gameplayers didn't give so much attention to it. The policy of military organizations towards OOC rulebreakers and fascists has proven to be an enormous failure. Layem is undoubtedly going to be destroyed and forgotten within six months, like so many similar regions that I no longer remember by name, and this liberation will of course contribute to that. Nonetheless, y'all took the bait yet again. By paying attention to these regions, you're letting them infest the Gameplay and Security Council forums with their toxicity.

PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2022 6:19 pm
by Andusre
Bormiar wrote:I'm for this proposal.

However, it seems Layem is yet another case of a region which would have no impact on anything if gameplayers didn't give so much attention to it. The policy of military organizations towards OOC rulebreakers and fascists has proven to be an enormous failure. Layem is undoubtedly going to be destroyed and forgotten within six months, like so many similar regions that I no longer remember by name, and this liberation will of course contribute to that. Nonetheless, y'all took the bait yet again. By paying attention to these regions, you're letting them infest the Gameplay and Security Council forums with their toxicity.

This is not true. Layem was actively antagonistic to regions (particularly The League) even when such regions completely ignored them. As has been repeated ad nauseam, The League did not take part in our delegate bumping of Layem a couple of months ago, yet Layem attempted to infiltrate The League in retaliation anyway. Regions like this will exist and will be annoying whether we respond to them or not, and pretending like engaging with them in the SC fans the flames is just not true. In my opinion it demonstrates a lack of experience/understanding of how those regions work, and it dismisses the very valid argument that liberating problematic regions after they go founderless is justice and comeuppance for the attempts to irritate people over months or years.

What I do think you're sort of right on, though, is that a lot of GPers cannot swallow their pride to avoid bumping those regions' threads. Even after being asked to stop engaging repeatedly in threads seemingly designed to get a rise out of you, some individuals relentlessly continued replying. Bumping those threads forced individuals - Quebec/TL and LGBTQ+ community members in particular - to experience relentless exposure to what was often hateful and bigoted shit, all for the sake of a Gameplayer's bruised ego.

I hope GP learns its lesson for the next time a region like Layem walks through the revolving door.

Also, full support - Sunipi has been pinged to support as soon as they can. Great to see Layem's era come to an end.

PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2022 6:29 pm
by Deropia
Mauroa wrote:Full support. I will happily be taking control of the WA del and banning every one of you until the end of time.


Then I'll be watching as you lose the delegacy as soon as the lib passes and the update gets to Layem. Hope ya got a lot of influence...ya got a lot of people to ban.

PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2022 6:31 pm
by New Astri
Bormiar wrote:I'm for this proposal.

However, it seems Layem is yet another case of a region which would have no impact on anything if gameplayers didn't give so much attention to it. The policy of military organizations towards OOC rulebreakers and fascists has proven to be an enormous failure. Layem is undoubtedly going to be destroyed and forgotten within six months, like so many similar regions that I no longer remember by name, and this liberation will of course contribute to that. Nonetheless, y'all took the bait yet again. By paying attention to these regions, you're letting them infest the Gameplay and Security Council forums with their toxicity.


sure, we should all be ignoring regions like layem when they pull tiny, bait-y stunts in hopes of pissing people off, i agree with that. but now that we all have the opportunity to completely raid it? we absolutely should be doing that, and there's no point in going about it in complete silence, because they'd be just as mad at us all either way. it's good to show our intolerance for bigoted regions! this isn't taking bait, it's materially doing something. fascists and ooc-shitty users would have a lot easier time on this site if military organizations against them Weren't a policy. doing nothing won't make them go away, it will give them more opportunities.

PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2022 6:40 pm
by Bormiar
New Astri wrote:
Bormiar wrote:I'm for this proposal.

However, it seems Layem is yet another case of a region which would have no impact on anything if gameplayers didn't give so much attention to it. The policy of military organizations towards OOC rulebreakers and fascists has proven to be an enormous failure. Layem is undoubtedly going to be destroyed and forgotten within six months, like so many similar regions that I no longer remember by name, and this liberation will of course contribute to that. Nonetheless, y'all took the bait yet again. By paying attention to these regions, you're letting them infest the Gameplay and Security Council forums with their toxicity.


sure, we should all be ignoring regions like layem when they pull tiny, bait-y stunts in hopes of pissing people off, i agree with that. but now that we all have the opportunity to completely raid it? we absolutely should be doing that

I agree, that's why I'm voting for. I was making comments on the region in general and our reaction to it.

PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2022 6:48 pm
by WayNeacTia
Bormiar wrote:I'm for this proposal.

However, it seems Layem is yet another case of a region which would have no impact on anything if gameplayers didn't give so much attention to it. The policy of military organizations towards OOC rulebreakers and fascists has proven to be an enormous failure. Layem is undoubtedly going to be destroyed and forgotten within six months, like so many similar regions that I no longer remember by name, and this liberation will of course contribute to that. Nonetheless, y'all took the bait yet again. By paying attention to these regions, you're letting them infest the Gameplay and Security Council forums with their toxicity.

Homophobes need to be called on their shit, regardless of attention drawn to it. This isn't the whole "nazi's should be ignored shit"....

PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2022 9:16 pm
by Soltuani
What'd they do?

PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2022 9:20 pm
by Outer Sparta
Soltuani wrote:What'd they do?

Did you not read the proposal? Besides, a liberation usually is done if the founder CTEs.

PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2022 9:23 pm
by Lord Dominator
Outer Sparta wrote:
Soltuani wrote:What'd they do?

Did you not read the proposal? Besides, a liberation usually is done if the founder CTEs.

Yes, liberate every founderless region ;)

Anyways, support

PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2022 10:21 pm
by Soltuani
Outer Sparta wrote:
Soltuani wrote:What'd they do?

Did you not read the proposal? Besides, a liberation usually is done if the founder CTEs.

Yeah I read. I just previously wanted-but am now fine without- specifics is all.

Kind regards,

Leader of Soltuani