[DEFEATED] Repeal "LGBTIQA Inclusiveness In Schools Act"

[Equai]

Its always "let kids be kids" when are issues about minority and marginalized groups but when you shove in their faces straight couples and religion then its all alright.
For kids its VERY VERY important to know about social issues and have sense of compassion in order to make word a better and more inclusive place, otherwise we are just making a generation who will further degrade destroy Earth. Using kids as a defense argument only shows inability to find a valid scientific evidence to support a repeal of inclusiveness of minority groups.




You ARE committing a crime by using hate speech at the first place. You can't have your cake and eat it too. If you support absolute freedom of speech you can't not to support absolute freedom of everything (including other crimes.)
There is a reason why free speech is not absolute, why is always regulated and why you can end up in a joint for using it at the wrong person. Not country has or will ever have absolute freedom of speech.

For your first statement, while yes it is important to know about social issues, I don’t believe we should force education on such topics in schools, some people are blatantly homphobic, and it’s sad, and yes we should deal with that problem, but I hate how if you slip up on anything in our modern generation, you get “cancelled” and then labeled a bigot, I noticed (in my own life) this culture only became prevalent just two years ago, and for me it was an unfortunate societal shift, those issues have their place and importance, but I wish we didn’t have to focus so much on them and being “correct”

So.. by that logic slavery should never have ended?
Its important to address social issues, to know them. Its important to make world inclusive, better, modern and safe place for EVERYONE. LGBTQ+ having their presence, issues addressed and rights is not "unfortunate". We are humans as well for the sake of Apollo. Time where you can be homophobic and "accidentally slip up" a slur or two doesn't exist anymore as it should not. World doesn't revolve around white cis men.

[Federation of Anterica]

For your first statement, while yes it is important to know about social issues, I don’t believe we should force education on such topics in schools, some people are blatantly homphobic, and it’s sad, and yes we should deal with that problem, but I hate how if you slip up on anything in our modern generation, you get “cancelled” and then labeled a bigot, I noticed (in my own life) this culture only became prevalent just two years ago, and for me it was an unfortunate societal shift, those issues have their place and importance, but I wish we didn’t have to focus so much on them and being “correct”

So.. by that logic slavery should never have ended?
Its important to address social issues, to know them. Its important to make world inclusive, better, modern and safe place for EVERYONE. LGBTQ+ having their presence, issues addressed and rights is not "unfortunate". We are humans as well for the sake of Apollo. Time where you can be homophobic and "accidentally slip up" a slur or two doesn't exist anymore as it should not. World doesn't revolve around white cis men.

As I said, it is important to address the social issues, what’s so unfortunate is how we can label anyone racist or homphobic or anything else based on just a few statements without explanation, and how we have to make such a large deal about social issues, I’ll say it again, it’s important to address those issues, but i just wish that it wasn’t such a daily part of my life, every hour it feels like, also, for your slavery case, that is the antithesis of my logic.

Edit: I don’t have to be cis or white or male

[Nepleslia]

[…] World doesn't revolve around white cis men.

One could also make the argument that the world doesn’t revolve around LGBTQ+ individuals either; hell, the world shouldn’t revolve around anyone, as belonging to a certain ethnicity or gender/sexuality shouldn’t grant a person special privileges - no matter if they’re caucasian or african, straight or transgender, and so on. A human, at the end of the day, is a human, and no human should ever be “more equal” then another.

[Apatosaurus II]

[…] World doesn't revolve around white cis men.

One could also make the argument that the world doesn’t revolve around LGBTQ+ individuals either; hell, the world shouldn’t revolve around anyone, as belonging to a certain ethnicity or gender/sexuality shouldn’t grant a person special privileges - no matter if they’re caucasian or african, straight or transgender, and so on. A human, at the end of the day, is a human, and no human should ever be “more equal” then another.

Nobody is saying that the world should revolve around LGBTIQA+ individuals.

[Tetchuan]

[…] World doesn't revolve around white cis men.

One could also make the argument that the world doesn’t revolve around LGBTQ+ individuals either; hell, the world shouldn’t revolve around anyone, as belonging to a certain ethnicity or gender/sexuality shouldn’t grant a person special privileges - no matter if they’re caucasian or african, straight or transgender, and so on. A human, at the end of the day, is a human, and no human should ever be “more equal” then another.

This is such a false flag argument, nothing about LBGTIQA legislation is about making them "more equal" than anyone else. We as a society have suppressed them (and other minority groups) to a point where protections are necessary for them simply to bring them in line with the rest of us.

[Tinhampton]

""Repeal "LGBTIQA Inclusiveness in Schools Act"" was defeated 12,209 votes to 4,063. (24.97% support)

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[Apatosaurus II]

Seconds ago: The General Assembly resolution "Repeal "LGBTIQA Inclusiveness in Schools Act"" was defeated 12,209 votes to 4,063.

(24.96927236971485% support)

Based??

(smh ninja'd)

[Federation of Anterica]

Truly shocking… truly unfortunate

[Evinea]

Seconds ago: The General Assembly resolution "Repeal "LGBTIQA Inclusiveness in Schools Act"" was defeated 12,209 votes to 4,063.

(24.96927236971485% support)

Based??

(smh ninja'd)

Based indeed

[Fachumonn]

Based. This is awesome. I don't care what the homophobes say.

[Scilux]

And here we go again. People pushing their propaganda onto children yet again. Social issues should be discussed when you are an adult, when you are a children just focus on studying relevant things to your future and enjoy your life instead of getting brainwashed and closing off your creativity, flexibility. Whatever, my country Scilux will definietly not follow nor comply with this tyranical law. We will solve this problem on our own way and follow science and freedom

[Siebeland]

And here we go again. People pushing their propaganda onto children yet again. Social issues should be discussed when you are an adult, when you are a children just focus on studying relevant things to your future and enjoy your life instead of getting brainwashed and closing off your creativity, flexibility. Whatever, my country Scilux will definietly not follow nor comply with this tyranical law. We will solve this problem on our own way and follow science and freedom

Then I hope you have a pleasant time away from the WA, lest the compliance commission knock on your door.

[Platoon of Peace]

And here we go again. People pushing their propaganda onto children yet again. Social issues should be discussed when you are an adult, when you are a children just focus on studying relevant things to your future and enjoy your life instead of getting brainwashed and closing off your creativity, flexibility. Whatever, my country Scilux will definietly not follow nor comply with this tyranical law. We will solve this problem on our own way and follow science and freedom

have fun with that.

[Wallenburg]

And here we go again. People pushing their propaganda onto children yet again. Social issues should be discussed when you are an adult, when you are a children just focus on studying relevant things to your future and enjoy your life instead of getting brainwashed and closing off your creativity, flexibility. Whatever, my country Scilux will definietly not follow nor comply with this tyranical law. We will solve this problem on our own way and follow science and freedom

"I highly doubt that your home nation refrains from educating its children on morality, etiquette, and the nature of the society they live within."

[Scilux]

And here we go again. People pushing their propaganda onto children yet again. Social issues should be discussed when you are an adult, when you are a children just focus on studying relevant things to your future and enjoy your life instead of getting brainwashed and closing off your creativity, flexibility. Whatever, my country Scilux will definietly not follow nor comply with this tyranical law. We will solve this problem on our own way and follow science and freedom

"I highly doubt that your home nation refrains from educating its children on morality, etiquette, and the nature of the society they live within."

Teaching about sexuality is the right of the parent and not the duty of the schools, goverment or any other organisation.
Making sexuality a political issue is a mistake that eventually leads to the given groups going radical and leads to those groups wanting to groom children like we see in the real world.

[Wallenburg]

Teaching about sexuality is the right of the parent and not the duty of the schools, goverment or any other organisation.
Making sexuality a political issue is a mistake that eventually leads to the given groups going radical and leads to those groups wanting to groom children like we see in the real world.

"That's quite the change of argument, ambassador, not least of all because you were rendering sexuality a political issue just moments ago."

[Scilux]

[quote="Siebeland";p="39504094"]

The current WA is flawed and allows proposals that are harming member states to pass. The whole thing should be reformed with giving member states more freedom or space to move around in mind and better oversight on the proposals and their long term effects and also a corresponding issue that had been thought trough or allow member states to write their own solution to be given as extra above the issues given every 6 hours.

[Untecna]

"Harming Member States"

Oh, I'm sorry that you don't agree with what we pass, and I'm sorry that you can't act like a reasonable person and not cry about it

Just leave if you don't like it... no one is stopping you, and you aren't hurting us at all.

Though, the plugged-ears screaming will finally be gone.

[Scilux]

"That's quite the change of argument, ambassador, not least of all because you were rendering sexuality a political issue just moments ago."

The thing is that when others try to make things into a political issue you are forced to treat it as such as well at 1st most times, the rest comes after it

[Scilux]

"Harming Member States"

Oh, I'm sorry that you don't agree with what we pass, and I'm sorry that you can't act like a reasonable person and not cry about it

Just leave if you don't like it... no one is stopping you, and you aren't hurting us at all.

Though, the plugged-ears screaming will finally be gone.

Oh, i am sorry that you are lazy to fix whats broken, and i am sorry that you can't use common sense and not cry about it

Just let groomers etc promote gender change to children thats basically ruining their life and messes up their body etc. If you don't like the fact that someone is pointing this loophole out in the law that they can use

Though, at least you will be finally showing your true colors

[Platoon of Peace]

"Harming Member States"

Oh, I'm sorry that you don't agree with what we pass, and I'm sorry that you can't act like a reasonable person and not cry about it

Just leave if you don't like it... no one is stopping you, and you aren't hurting us at all.

Though, the plugged-ears screaming will finally be gone.

Oh, i am sorry that you are lazy to fix whats broken, and i am sorry that you can't use common sense and not cry about it

Just let groomers etc promote gender change to children thats basically ruining their life and messes up their body etc. If you don't like the fact that someone is pointing this loophole out in the law that they can use

Though, at least you will be finally showing your true colors

Why do people opposed to this always go with the "GaY pEoPlE pEdOs" thing? disregarding the rest of the argument which does not pertain to this debate, this gets really repetitive.

[Glatixland]

And here we go again. People pushing their propaganda onto children yet again. Social issues should be discussed when you are an adult, when you are a children just focus on studying relevant things to your future and enjoy your life instead of getting brainwashed and closing off your creativity, flexibility. Whatever, my country Scilux will definietly not follow nor comply with this tyranical law. We will solve this problem on our own way and follow science and freedom

"The Jingoistic States of Glatixland would be more than happy to provide a steady supply of copium to your nation. It's clearly needed."

[Siebeland]

The current WA is flawed and allows proposals that are harming member states to pass. The whole thing should be reformed with giving member states more freedom or space to move around in mind and better oversight on the proposals and their long term effects and also a corresponding issue that had been thought trough or allow member states to write their own solution to be given as extra above the issues given every 6 hours.

Unfortunately for you, there have been no such reformations. Comply or withdraw, there is no middle ground.

[German Territories]

Just let groomers etc promote gender change to children thats basically ruining their life and messes up their body etc. If you don't like the fact that someone is pointing this loophole out in the law that they can use

Would you mind explaining how exactly "promoting gender change" relates to grooming?
As I understand it, grooming refers to the practice of establishing an emotional connection with a child, with the target of sexual abuse.
However, I don't see how teaching about different gender identities (or even "promoting gender change", which I'm pretty sure is not happening in schools or anywhere else for that matter) is establishing an emotional connection with a child. If you believe it is, then surely teaching about anything at all, be it maths or biology, could be labelled as grooming?
I'd be happy to be enlightened about how teaching about gender identity is different from teaching about addition or subtraction.

[Federation of Anterica]

I talked to my bi friend about this, he said “It’s important to address it, but you shouldn’t force it onto kids in school” she also said we should educate kids on such social issues “gently” not forcing it onto them as GA#603 does, I completely agree with him