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[DEFEATED] commend "A Mean Old Man"

Postby JURISDICTIONS » Wed May 19, 2010 9:52 am

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Commend “A mean old man”
A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation | Nominee: A mean old man | Proposed by: JURISDICTIONS


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The World Assembly Security Council,

ACKNOWLEDGING the great art talent of “A Mean Old Man” (AMOM);

CELEBRATING AMOM's readiness to create and share works of art for members of the NationStates international community upon request;

ASTONISHED at the numerous great works of art permanently exhibited in “AMOM's NSPaint Cartoon Gallery”;

ALL-AROUND IMPRESSED by AMOM’s willingness to do creative works, without any payment or incentive from the international community, or any established organization;

EXPRESSING PROFOUND APPROVAL of AMOM for efforts to spread information about the artistry and creativity of other nations, through the creation of a directory of art galleries;

NOTING that AMOM is free of any discrimination in: displaying of artwork or informing of the world of artistic works of other nations;

FURTHER ACKNOWLEDGING AMOM’s extensive proficiency and grasp in the World Assembly's workings, Resolutions, and enforcement of such resolutions; and by understanding these concepts that AMOM has introduced marvelous resolutions to the Security Council, which bring about the betterment of the global community;

GRATEFUL for the sound advice distributed by AMOM to other nations on matters of diplomacy, WA legislation, and political affairs.

CONCLUDING that AMOM’s actions have merited a proportionally awe-inspiring reward;

HEREBY COMMENDS “A Mean Old Man” for furthering the causes of Art, Culture, and Society.


This has been edited four times so far do to edit suggestions from: Nai, kenny, Pythria, and oh my days.

This proposal has now been submitted to the World Assembly Security Council.

If you are a delegate could you support my proposal?
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Postby Oh my Days » Wed May 19, 2010 11:40 am

You can't use links in proposals.
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Postby Pythria » Wed May 19, 2010 11:44 am

Disclaimer: I am not an expert on proposal writing.
JURISDICTIONS wrote:The World Assembly Security Council,
I think you only have to say 'the World Assembly'.

KNOWING the great art talent of “A Mean Old Man” (AMOM);[/quote]I think 'acknowledging' would be a better word here.
GRATEFUL for AMOM’s readiness to share fruits of artistic skill with the world;

APPLAUDING AMOM’s generosity in creating works of art at request for individual nations to treasure without charge of any sort;
Couldn't these be combined somehow?
FLABBERGASTED that AMOM can show a permanent exhibition of great works in a thing called “MSPaint”;
I think it would sound better like this: 'IMPRESSED by AMOM's creation of a permanent art gallery in which players' artwork can be displayed'
ALL-AROUND IMPRESSED by AMOM’s willingness to do creative works, without requiring any support from the international community, or any established organization;
Probably an unnecessary clause, as you already mention that he gets no payment for his art.
GIVING PROFOUND APPROVAL of AMOM for efforts to spread information about the artistry and creativity of other nations;
Also unnecessary.
FURTHER NOTING that AMOM is free of any discrimination in displaying of artwork or the informing of the world of artistic works of other nations;
Okay...
WANTING to celebrate AMOM with the highest honor that can only be bestowed by the World Assembly and the Security Council;
The very fact that you're commending him says this, so this is unnecessary.
OFFICIALY COMMENDS “A Mean Old Man” for furthering the causes of Art, Culture, and Society.
Should be 'hereby commends'.
SC regulars- tell me if these are good edits.
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Postby Oh my Days » Wed May 19, 2010 11:49 am

Most of your suggestions are good, but there's no reason it shouldn't be "OFFICIALLY Commends".
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Postby JURISDICTIONS » Wed May 19, 2010 12:14 pm

@ Oh My Days - Links are allowed in proposals

Ardchoille wrote:Links: No links in proposals.



I wanted my proposal to sound a tad original... is there a way i can spice it up a bit?
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Postby Pythria » Wed May 19, 2010 12:16 pm

JURISDICTIONS wrote:@ Oh My Days - Links are allowed in proposals

Ardchoille wrote:Links: No links in proposals.


Why did you say they're allowed if Ard said no?
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Postby JURISDICTIONS » Wed May 19, 2010 12:19 pm

If you note in the rule was struck out in this thread.

You quoted my unedited post!
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Postby TurtleShroom » Wed May 19, 2010 12:20 pm

It is a crime against humanity NOT to commend Mean Old Man.

You should also add his extensive knowledge of the World Assembly's workings, laws, and enforcement, and his overall brilliance when it comes to advice for other nations. Oh, and his awesomeness, if it is legally referencable, should be noted.
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Probably a good idea to avoid references to registered trademarks like MSPaint. Image
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Postby JURISDICTIONS » Wed May 19, 2010 12:26 pm

TurtleShroom wrote:It is a crime against humanity NOT to commend Mean Old Man.

You should also add his extensive knowledge of the World Assembly's workings, laws, and enforcement, and his overall brilliance when it comes to advice for other nations. Oh, and his awesomeness, if it is legally referencable, should be noted.


I will try to add that tonight!
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Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:Probably a good idea to avoid references to registered trademarks like MSPaint. Image


Why? Isn't the thread called "MSPaint"?
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Postby Pythria » Wed May 19, 2010 12:54 pm

JURISDICTIONS wrote:
Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:Probably a good idea to avoid references to registered trademarks like MSPaint. Image


Why? Isn't the thread called "MSPaint"?

I think he called it 'NSPaint'.
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Postby JURISDICTIONS » Wed May 19, 2010 1:01 pm

It is now changed! The links link!
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JURISDICTIONS wrote:It is now changed! The links link!

Did you look at my edits?
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AGAINST he is a total jerk to his people
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JURISDICTIONS wrote:@ Oh My Days - Links are allowed in proposals

Ardchoille wrote:Links: No links in proposals.



I wanted my proposal to sound a tad original... is there a way i can spice it up a bit?


I see, I thought links were only allowed for nations and regions, on the grounds that external links die. I can't imagine that this would change, can you point me to where the decision was made?

EDIT:: If you look at the editlog on the bottom of that post, it says that "links are okay if they're NS links" - other links are still illegal, including forum links.
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Agaralia wrote:AGAINST he is a total jerk to his people

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Postby Unibot » Wed May 19, 2010 8:54 pm

Mine is better! Nahanahanah... :p

Commend A mean old man
A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation | Nominee: A mean old man | Proposed by: Unibotian WASC Mission


Description: The Security Council,

REALIZING that a commendation of a Mean Old Man was defeated at vote only a few months ago with many citing the defeat as retribution for a Mean Old Man’s supposed “public backstabbing and reprisal” against Unibot and the members of The Security Council, regarding SC#15-16,

UNDERSTANDING that just prior to SC#16 being voted on, a Mean Old Man and Unibot privately reconciled through telegrams, during which this conversation, Unibot became self-aware of what a stubborn git he had been to others, and a Mean Old Man promised he would not pursue the adoption of SC#16 as actively as he had previously been,

ATTEMPTING to make right what was previously wronged in the subsequent public discussions regarding a Mean Old Man as they were unfairly critical,

DETERMINING that a Mean Old Man since the beginning of his activity in the hallowed halls of the WA has been a vigorous supporter of quality in resolution writing and the drafting process…

(I) HAVING ADVOCATED for a diversity of opinions, independence, public drafting and and a system of democracy in the World Assembly free from manipulation,

(II) HAVING DENOUNCED the practice of stacking voting floors immediately as a manipulation of democracy that depreciates the individual vote,

(III) HAVING CRITICIZED the herd mentality of voters that “vote-stackers” exploit, which he popularized the phrase, “lemming-effect”, to describe,

BELIEVING that if more players articulated and acted upon their opinions and and principles such as a Mean Old Man has done without fear of reprisal, the World Assembly would be a more enlightened and democratic institution,

ADMIRING a Mean Old Man’s more lighthearted activities such as providing comedic caricatures of different In-Character entities, participating in various roleplays and advocating for more humor in the proceedings of the Security Council,

GIGGLING at the irony of commending an advocate of openness and accessibility with a proposal that was drafted in secret because it is inherently illegal due to a newly established rule -- “Rule #4” stipulates that proposals cannot be written entirely out-of-character,

APPLAUDING a Mean Old Man’s bold support of a campaign to rid the World Assembly of “Rule #4” in its entirety,

HOPING a Mean Old Man will take this opportunity to put his feet up, eat a cookie and quietly lurk in his own commendation thread -- a well-deserved break for one of the most lively critics in debate threads,

HEREBY COMMENDS A Mean Old Man for being who he is, instead of who he pretends to be.

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Unibot wrote:Mine is better! Nahanahanah... :p

Commend A mean old man
A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation | Nominee: A mean old man | Proposed by: Unibotian WASC Mission


Description: The Security Council,

REALIZING that a commendation of a Mean Old Man was defeated at vote only a few months ago with many citing the defeat as retribution for a Mean Old Man’s supposed “public backstabbing and reprisal” against Unibot and the members of The Security Council, regarding SC#15-16,

UNDERSTANDING that just prior to SC#16 being voted on, a Mean Old Man and Unibot privately reconciled through telegrams, during which this conversation, Unibot became self-aware of what a stubborn git he had been to others, and a Mean Old Man promised he would not pursue the adoption of SC#16 as actively as he had previously been,

ATTEMPTING to make right what was previously wronged in the subsequent public discussions regarding a Mean Old Man as they were unfairly critical,

DETERMINING that a Mean Old Man since the beginning of his activity in the hallowed halls of the WA has been a vigorous supporter of quality in resolution writing and the drafting process…

(I) HAVING ADVOCATED for a diversity of opinions, independence, public drafting and and a system of democracy in the World Assembly free from manipulation,

(II) HAVING DENOUNCED the practice of stacking voting floors immediately as a manipulation of democracy that depreciates the individual vote,

(III) HAVING CRITICIZED the herd mentality of voters that “vote-stackers” exploit, which he popularized the phrase, “lemming-effect”, to describe,

BELIEVING that if more players articulated and acted upon their opinions and and principles such as a Mean Old Man has done without fear of reprisal, the World Assembly would be a more enlightened and democratic institution,

ADMIRING a Mean Old Man’s more lighthearted activities such as providing comedic caricatures of different In-Character entities, participating in various roleplays and advocating for more humor in the proceedings of the Security Council,

GIGGLING at the irony of commending an advocate of openness and accessibility with a proposal that was drafted in secret because it is inherently illegal due to a newly established rule -- “Rule #4” stipulates that proposals cannot be written entirely out-of-character,

APPLAUDING a Mean Old Man’s bold support of a campaign to rid the World Assembly of “Rule #4” in its entirety,

HOPING a Mean Old Man will take this opportunity to put his feet up, eat a cookie and quietly lurk in his own commendation thread -- a well-deserved break for one of the most lively critics in debate threads,

HEREBY COMMENDS A Mean Old Man for being who he is, instead of who he pretends to be.

Hasn't AMOM repeatedly asked for you not to use that?
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Oh my Days wrote:
JURISDICTIONS wrote:@ Oh My Days - Links are allowed in proposals

Ardchoille wrote:Links: No links in proposals.



I wanted my proposal to sound a tad original... is there a way i can spice it up a bit?


I see, I thought links were only allowed for nations and regions, on the grounds that external links die. I can't imagine that this would change, can you point me to where the decision was made?

EDIT:: If you look at the editlog on the bottom of that post, it says that "links are okay if they're NS links" - other links are still illegal, including forum links.


Oh my Days, the edits are just meant to be summaries of what I changed, not further rules. What I had in mind was "what's inside NS" -- no links to outside sites to explain, say, Nazism, but fair enough to link to an example of that nation's Nazism within the NS world.

I figured that, since each C&C is a once-off, it was probably fair to condemn or commend on the basis of conditions existing at the time of the commendation or condemnation -- similar situation to the ruling that House of Cards violations don't apply in the SC.
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Ardchoille wrote:Oh my Days, the edits are just meant to be summaries of what I changed, not further rules. What I had in mind was "what's inside NS" -- no links to outside sites to explain, say, Nazism, but fair enough to link to an example of that nation's Nazism within the NS world.

I figured that, since each C&C is a once-off, it was probably fair to condemn or commend on the basis of conditions existing at the time of the commendation or condemnation -- similar situation to the ruling that House of Cards violations don't apply in the SC.


Right, so presumably forum links are banned?
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Oh my Days wrote:
Ardchoille wrote:Oh my Days, the edits are just meant to be summaries of what I changed, not further rules. What I had in mind was "what's inside NS" -- no links to outside sites to explain, say, Nazism, but fair enough to link to an example of that nation's Nazism within the NS world.

I figured that, since each C&C is a once-off, it was probably fair to condemn or commend on the basis of conditions existing at the time of the commendation or condemnation -- similar situation to the ruling that House of Cards violations don't apply in the SC.


Right, so presumably forum links are banned?


The links in this proposal are links to NS official forum. Which I presume is still within the site as the "nationstates.net" is still in the URL...
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The draft has been edited.
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Postby Pythria » Thu May 20, 2010 6:01 am

JURISDICTIONS wrote:
Oh my Days wrote:
Ardchoille wrote:Oh my Days, the edits are just meant to be summaries of what I changed, not further rules. What I had in mind was "what's inside NS" -- no links to outside sites to explain, say, Nazism, but fair enough to link to an example of that nation's Nazism within the NS world.

I figured that, since each C&C is a once-off, it was probably fair to condemn or commend on the basis of conditions existing at the time of the commendation or condemnation -- similar situation to the ruling that House of Cards violations don't apply in the SC.


Right, so presumably forum links are banned?


The links in this proposal are links to NS official forum. Which I presume is still within the site as the "nationstates.net" is still in the URL...

Are you going to edit this proposal, or submit it as is?
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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Thu May 20, 2010 9:06 am

Ardchoille wrote:Oh my Days, the edits are just meant to be summaries of what I changed, not further rules. What I had in mind was "what's inside NS" -- no links to outside sites to explain, say, Nazism, but fair enough to link to an example of that nation's Nazism within the NS world.

I figured that, since each C&C is a once-off, it was probably fair to condemn or commend on the basis of conditions existing at the time of the commendation or condemnation -- similar situation to the ruling that House of Cards violations don't apply in the SC.

Surely by "NS links" you meant links to regions or nations, which are the only links that work in proposals?
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