Tinhampton wrote:Thanks. Any other iffiness I may have about this proposal is sufficiently minor that I can support this in good grace.
Same here.
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by Fachumonn » Sun May 15, 2022 3:18 pm
Tinhampton wrote:Thanks. Any other iffiness I may have about this proposal is sufficiently minor that I can support this in good grace.
by Eggraria » Mon May 16, 2022 1:20 am
1a. Visit the public museums and galleries of all consenting member nations to photograph, audio/videotape, or otherwise record a digital display of all exhibited artworks within. This does not apply to nations that present a direct or indirect danger to any dispatched photographers or historians.
1b. Research and compose, to the best of their ability, a short historical explanation of each recorded artwork for study of the context of said art.
1e. Ensure the proper organization and working order of the IOAR, including making artworks searchable by nation or artist.
1e. Ensure effective and adequate organization and working order of the IOAR, including searchable labelling of artwork by nation, artist, time period, collection, and any other relevant labels deemed by the IOAR.
2a. The Office of Building Management must allocate a sizable portion of land - within international World Assembly territory and with sufficient transportation to and from all member states - on which to build the IGA.
Build and maintain the IGA, making sure to accommodate space andconstantprovide adequate expansion formember states that wish to donate artwork to the gallery.future donations to the gallery.
by West Barack and East Obama » Mon May 16, 2022 1:29 am
by Thousand Branches » Mon May 16, 2022 6:40 am
Eggraria wrote:-snip-
by Tobosarsk » Mon May 16, 2022 6:43 am
Araraukar wrote:OOC: Without googling, name two well-known Finnish works of art and their signifigance to you.
If you cannot and if they hold no signifigance to you, why should someone from a different universe care about somone else's nation's art? If they are interested, I'm fairly sure they could ask for pics of them already.
by Tralfamdore » Mon May 16, 2022 10:49 am
by Thousand Branches » Mon May 16, 2022 11:17 am
Tralfamdore wrote:I feel as if some of the requirements are simply unfeasible, such as ALL artwork, that is just ridiculous in my opinion, now if we amended this to be closer along the lines of being mostly voluntary to participate (as not to force countries without a significant art culture to create one) and the idea nation submitting a certain number of works of art they feel best represent them instead of all art in the country, which I repeat is plainly preposterous to expect due to the size of some of the countries in NS.
by Anne of Cleves in TNP » Mon May 16, 2022 1:19 pm
by Tralfamdore » Mon May 16, 2022 1:54 pm
Thousand Branches wrote:Tralfamdore wrote:I feel as if some of the requirements are simply unfeasible, such as ALL artwork, that is just ridiculous in my opinion, now if we amended this to be closer along the lines of being mostly voluntary to participate (as not to force countries without a significant art culture to create one) and the idea nation submitting a certain number of works of art they feel best represent them instead of all art in the country, which I repeat is plainly preposterous to expect due to the size of some of the countries in NS.
Meh, I have no issue with the size of the ordeal. The WA exists on a much larger scale than any earthly group. It is also objectively voluntary, nations do not have to participate.
by Fhaengshia » Mon May 16, 2022 2:35 pm
Tralfamdore wrote:Thousand Branches wrote:Meh, I have no issue with the size of the ordeal. The WA exists on a much larger scale than any earthly group. It is also objectively voluntary, nations do not have to participate.
ok, the voluntery part wasnt apparent, your criticism of my criticism is valid, my concerns were mainly based around me thinking there would be forced participation
by WayNeacTia » Mon May 16, 2022 2:41 pm
RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac
wait
by Comfed » Mon May 16, 2022 3:31 pm
by Princess Rainbow Sparkles » Mon May 16, 2022 3:37 pm
Thousand Branches wrote:Establishes the Artistic Retention Trusteeship (ART), with the task of creating * * *
The International Online Artistic Repository (IOAR), a publicly and easily available online repository with the purpose of documenting the artwork of member states.
Thousand Branches wrote:The ART must:* * * Visit the public museums and galleries of all consenting member nations to photograph, audio/videotape, or otherwise record a digital display of all exhibited artworks within, except when a nation would present a direct or indirect danger to any dispatched photographers or historians.
Thousand Branches wrote:The International Gallery of Art (IGA), a physical gallery with the purpose of exemplifying the best masterpieces of each individual member nation:
Thousand Branches wrote:The Office of Building Management must allocate a sufficiently accessible and sizable portion of land within international World Assembly territory for the purposes of building the IGA.* * *
[*]The ART must * * * Build and maintain the IGA, making sure to accommodate space and provide adequate expansion for future donations to the gallery.
Thousand Branches wrote:Acknowledging, however, that cultural divide and a lack of international cooperation often lead to a lack of multiversal artistic knowledge throughout member states,
by Goobergunchia » Mon May 16, 2022 6:45 pm
by Thousand Branches » Mon May 16, 2022 8:53 pm
Comfed wrote:So the artists have no say in this at all? Not even the right to compensation? Whatever happened to intellectual property?
Maybe I'm reading this wrong but that is my impression. If that's the case, I am opposed until that is addressed.
Goobergunchia wrote:Would nations opting into clause 1a of the draft proposal be considered as making appropriate modifications to their domestic copyright scheme for purposes of clause 2 of "Foreign Copyright Recognition"?
by Desmosthenes and Burke » Mon May 16, 2022 9:37 pm
Thousand Branches wrote:Comfed wrote:So the artists have no say in this at all? Not even the right to compensation? Whatever happened to intellectual property?
Maybe I'm reading this wrong but that is my impression. If that's the case, I am opposed until that is addressed.
I’m not sure what you mean? A picture of a piece of art isn’t exactly intellectual property. I suppose when it comes to the physical gallery I could include something that would require consent of the original artist but that would be a bit difficult considering most of said artists are gonna be dead by now.
by Fhaengshia » Tue May 17, 2022 1:56 am
Goobergunchia wrote:Would nations opting into clause 1a of the draft proposal be considered as making appropriate modifications to their domestic copyright scheme for purposes of clause 2 of "Foreign Copyright Recognition"?
Madeleine Kofelgas
Deputy WA Ambassador
Moderately Liberal Unitary Republic of Goobergunchia
Desmosthenes and Burke wrote:Thousand Branches wrote:I’m not sure what you mean? A picture of a piece of art isn’t exactly intellectual property. I suppose when it comes to the physical gallery I could include something that would require consent of the original artist but that would be a bit difficult considering most of said artists are gonna be dead by now.
OOC:
In nations with sound intellectual property regimes distributing the type of photography that is implied by this resolution would violate the copyright of the original work, if it is still within the copyright period. Nothing in the likes of the Louvre or British Musem would have this problem, but quite a few works at say, the Centre Pompidou museum of modern art, are potentially still subject to IP protection as their creators are still living.
Also, side note, how does your proposal address contested ownership (Elgin Marbles as an example), colonialist exploitation (see the massive collections of artifacts from colonized people in the British Museum, Ethnographic Museums of Berlin, etc), and flat out expropriation/theft (NAZI plundering in the Third Reich, seizures by the Soviets, etc) all of which could conceivably occur within the NS world? What would happen if, say, the British government were to send a Nubian Christian fresco obtained during the colonial period for display?
by The Web of Life and Destiny » Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:27 am
by West Barack and East Obama » Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:43 am
West Barack and East Obama wrote:Dr Justin Obama, Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs: Opposed so long as the IGA is established. A hideous waste of valuable funds that would be better used for public welfare and law enforcement. The likelihood is that only rich fat cats will have the means to be able to visit such an extravagant museum whilst the working class of the World Assembly have less money to buy an iPhone so that they can view the internet gallery which has the same art anyways
by The Web of Life and Destiny » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:39 am
West Barack and East Obama wrote:West Barack and East Obama wrote:Dr Justin Obama, Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs: Opposed so long as the IGA is established. A hideous waste of valuable funds that would be better used for public welfare and law enforcement. The likelihood is that only rich fat cats will have the means to be able to visit such an extravagant museum whilst the working class of the World Assembly have less money to buy an iPhone so that they can view the internet gallery which has the same art anyways
Dr Justin Obama, Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs: Our position on this has not changed.
by West Barack and East Obama » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:47 am
by The Web of Life and Destiny » Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:21 am
West Barack and East Obama wrote:The Web of Life and Destiny wrote:Ftr, out delegation’s position on your position (polite disagreement) has also not changed.
Dr Justin Obama, Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs: Why though? The internet gallery is completely fine, but a physical one that contains less artwork, costs more money to maintain has no benefits. Sure, 'up close and personal' appreciation of the art may be a small benefit, but that will only be available to the rich upper class and will not really benefit the WA as a whole, unless this physical gallery has plans to be absolutely ginormous and also be easily accessible by the vast majority of the WA (i.e. a huge number)
by Jabberwocky » Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:24 am
by Tinhampton » Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:27 am
by The Web of Life and Destiny » Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:32 am
Jabberwocky wrote:This is a terrific idea, but is legislation necessary to bring it into being?
Tinhampton wrote:I reaffirm my support for the last Aramantha-era draft but await the Webs-era draft before I can pass comment on THAT. Sorry
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