[PASSED] LGBTIQA+ Inclusiveness in Schools Act

[Klemencia]

This temps my nation to leave the World Assembly.

[Fachumonn]

It's funny how that this thread has like 400 posts and yet like 5% of them are on the actual proposal itself.

[Populi Voluntatem]

The moderators are having a ball with this one.

[Khosiastan]

This temps my nation to leave the World Assembly.

That was the first thing that I thought of too.

[Life empire]

This temps my nation to leave the World Assembly.

just join with an alt it means you can vote without your main nation being affected by the wa

[Bing bongians]

Here’s what the people really want. For people in or out of the WA just vote here. To vote here just quote mine and then reply to it.

[Bing bongians]

This temps my nation to leave the World Assembly.

Same

[Kubinai]

This temps my nation to leave the World Assembly.

The resolutions are only going to get more woke just leave while you can

[Fachumonn]

I still don't see why this is causing this much fuss over a basic and needed proposal.

Maybe it's because some people aren't ready to accept change.

Then again, gayness is older than people so...

[Fachumonn]

Here’s what the people really want. For people in or out of the WA just vote here. To vote here just quote mine and then reply to it.

Hate to double post here but what the people really want is to have this passed. That's why it IS passing in a resounding victory in the GA. However, it might seem like people don't really want this because the people who don't support basic fundamentals of life (not just humans) are the only ones that would care enough to post here.

[Equai]

I still don't see why this is causing this much fuss over a basic and needed proposal.

Maybe it's because some people aren't ready to accept change.

Then again, gayness is older than people so...

The fuss over this resolution is just that some people are so unable to accept that basic human rights exists for all, not just hetero or cisgender individuals. They are perfectly alright when children are intoxicated with "religion" and heteronormativity but when you move status quo just a little bit and show others that there is a world beyond gender binary and heterosexuality they will screen at you, not even understanding that their philosophy of non-acceptance is factually and scientifically wrong. They also fail to understand that being LGBTQ+ didn't just popped out of thin air but that we always existed and will continue to exist.

[San Zeno]

Well It's safe to say I will not join the WA

[Apatosaurus]

Well It's safe to say I will not join the WA

"Your nation's refusal to participate in this august institution is noted."

[Life empire]

I still don't see why this is causing this much fuss over a basic and needed proposal.

Maybe it's because some people aren't ready to accept change.

Then again, gayness is older than people so...

because the resolution goes against free speech which is a basic human right

[Life empire]

I still don't see why this is causing this much fuss over a basic and needed proposal.

Maybe it's because some people aren't ready to accept change.

Then again, gayness is older than people so...

The fuss over this resolution is just that some people are so unable to accept that basic human rights exists for all, not just hetero or cisgender individuals. They are perfectly alright when children are intoxicated with "religion" and heteronormativity but when you move status quo just a little bit and show others that there is a world beyond gender binary and heterosexuality they will screen at you, not even understanding that their philosophy of non-acceptance is factually and scientifically wrong. They also fail to understand that being LGBTQ+ didn't just popped out of thin air but that we always existed and will continue to exist.

for one I dont like religious indoctranation on top of which basic human rights (which you refer to) include free speech which is being violated by this resolution

[Fachumonn]

The fuss over this resolution is just that some people are so unable to accept that basic human rights exists for all, not just hetero or cisgender individuals. They are perfectly alright when children are intoxicated with "religion" and heteronormativity but when you move status quo just a little bit and show others that there is a world beyond gender binary and heterosexuality they will screen at you, not even understanding that their philosophy of non-acceptance is factually and scientifically wrong. They also fail to understand that being LGBTQ+ didn't just popped out of thin air but that we always existed and will continue to exist.

for one I dont like religious indoctranation on top of which basic human rights (which you refer to) include free speech which is being violated by this resolution

How is free speech being violated? Sure, free speech is cool. But there's a point where calling LGBTQIA+ people nasty slurs and the such is not acceptable. Even by your so called "Free Speech". Free speech is cool. I like saying things that I think I should say. But studies have proven that people have suffered serious, and I MEAN Serious mental damage from slurs and other insults.

[Equai]

The fuss over this resolution is just that some people are so unable to accept that basic human rights exists for all, not just hetero or cisgender individuals. They are perfectly alright when children are intoxicated with "religion" and heteronormativity but when you move status quo just a little bit and show others that there is a world beyond gender binary and heterosexuality they will screen at you, not even understanding that their philosophy of non-acceptance is factually and scientifically wrong. They also fail to understand that being LGBTQ+ didn't just popped out of thin air but that we always existed and will continue to exist.

for one I dont like religious indoctranation on top of which basic human rights (which you refer to) include free speech which is being violated by this resolution

We said this before and we will say it again, Mr Ambassador. Hate speech IS NOT part of free speech. Only fascists compare hate speech and free speech as one and the same. You are free to say that you don't like something but you ARE NOT free to say harmful things, slurs or call for a violence against someone.
We will repeat again: Hate speech is not and never will be part of free speech. You can't say harmful opinions to others and expect them to be cool with it. We won't be alright with you using slurs and calling out for a violence against us and calling it free speech when it is NOT.

[Tyramon]

for one I dont like religious indoctranation on top of which basic human rights (which you refer to) include free speech which is being violated by this resolution

How is free speech being violated? Sure, free speech is cool. But there's a point where calling LGBTQIA+ people nasty slurs and the such is not acceptable. Even by your so called "Free Speech". Free speech is cool. I like saying things that I think I should say. But studies have proven that people have suffered serious, and I MEAN Serious mental damage from slurs and other insults.

In school, sure, this sort of thing should fall under bullying and be handled as such. But hate speech IS free speech. If you restrict free speech only to what you think is "good", then speech is no longer free. People shouldn't use nasty slurs, but it is more important that governments not infringe on the right of free speech. As Rowan Atkinson said, free speech is the second most important thing - second only to sustaining life.

[Apatosaurus]

How is free speech being violated? Sure, free speech is cool. But there's a point where calling LGBTQIA+ people nasty slurs and the such is not acceptable. Even by your so called "Free Speech". Free speech is cool. I like saying things that I think I should say. But studies have proven that people have suffered serious, and I MEAN Serious mental damage from slurs and other insults.

In school, sure, this sort of thing should fall under bullying and be handled as such. But hate speech IS free speech. If you restrict free speech only to what you think is "good", then speech is no longer free. People shouldn't use nasty slurs, but it is more important that governments not infringe on the right of free speech. As Rowan Atkinson said, free speech is the second most important thing - second only to sustaining life.

"Ambassador, hate speech does indirectly cause death."

[Fachumonn]

How is free speech being violated? Sure, free speech is cool. But there's a point where calling LGBTQIA+ people nasty slurs and the such is not acceptable. Even by your so called "Free Speech". Free speech is cool. I like saying things that I think I should say. But studies have proven that people have suffered serious, and I MEAN Serious mental damage from slurs and other insults.

In school, sure, this sort of thing should fall under bullying and be handled as such. But hate speech IS free speech. If you restrict free speech only to what you think is "good", then speech is no longer free. People shouldn't use nasty slurs, but it is more important that governments not infringe on the right of free speech. As Rowan Atkinson said, free speech is the second most important thing - second only to sustaining life.

"Ambassador, what is the difference between school and other institutions, like your job, etc. when referring to this issue?"
OOC: I also agree with Equai here, Hate Speech does NOT Equal Free Speech.

[Neuer California]

I still don't see why this is causing this much fuss over a basic and needed proposal.

Maybe it's because some people aren't ready to accept change.

Then again, gayness is older than people so...

because the resolution goes against free speech which is a basic human right

Ambassador, I must ask, which WA resolution guarantees free speech as absolutely as you say it does? And considering that there are member states of the WA that have laws banning speech far more broadly than this does (including several that ban any and all criticism of the government and/or state religion), how do they not run afoul of said resolutions?

I ask because I am starting to think that you and others are using the argument about free speech, which to my knowledge, is not guaranteed by the WA in the sense you say it is, to hide more nefarious reasons for opposition.

[Klemencia]

An actual concern here, the population of my nation is strongly religiously devout and as a result, nearly completely heterosexual. Why is teaching children about this necessary when it contradicts the will of our nation and religion? Our Theocracy is prepared to immediately withdraw from the World Assembly upon passage of this resolution.

[Volaworand]

My nation is traditionally predominately polysexual, and our Department of education has made efforts to protect monosexual minority students. We published this Volaworand Department of Education Fact Sheet on Sexual Minority (SGLB) Communities to schools over four years ago

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=941350

Assuming this passes will we need to cease protection of our minority heterosexual monosexual students?

[Republic Of Ludwigsburg]

a lot of edgy 12 year olds here who think "ur gay" is an insult. This thread has just become a hotbed for homophobia.

[Equai]

An actual concern here, the population of my nation is strongly religiously devout and as a result, nearly completely heterosexual. Why is teaching children about this necessary when it contradicts the will of our nation and religion? Our Theocracy is prepared to immediately withdraw from the World Assembly upon passage of this resolution.

Religion is not a valid argument, Ambassador. Religion doesn't justify someone's hate for a marginalized group or a mysoginy.