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Postby Apatosaurus » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:58 pm

feedback
Thousand Branches wrote:
Promotion of WA Diversity


The Security Council,

Recognizing that NationStates is home to a wealth of heroes, villains, and influential figures scattered across its vast plane of existence;

Understanding that the achievements of many notable communities, nations, and regions throughout the multiverse remain unrecognized by the Security Council Why do they "remain unrecognized"?;

Highlighting, in the pursuit of a more diverse future for the Security Council, several SC resolutions that have previously succeeded in expanding the horizons of the Security Council, some of the most notable being:
  • Constructive Debate: [resolution=SC#46]Commend The Cat-Tribe[/resolution], a commendation for the nation's mastery of productive debate in the General Assembly and elsewhere, creating solutions to age-old problems through effective argument.;
  • Warzone Leadership: [resolution=SC#87]Commend Warzone Codger[/resolution], which commends a resolution recognising an influential leader and community builder of one of the famously unstable warzone regions.;
  • Record-keeping: [resolution=SC#284]Commend Common Territories[/resolution], a resolution that succeeds in commending a nation for their expert exemplary records of national history, management, industry, and alliances.;
  • Statistical Anomalism: [resolution=SC#298]Commend Kindjal[/resolution], a resolution to point out a masterclass of intranational commendability through statistical national rankings. recognising one of the most, if not the most utopian nation in the multiverse, an effort which has taken many years of determination, patience and goodwill;
  • Artistic Generosity: [resolution=SC#304]Commend Almonaster Nuevo[/resolution], a particularly unique resolution commending a nation for their people’s incredible gifts in digital artwork and their generosity in sharing those gifts throughout the multiverse.;
  • Sporting Prowess: [Resolution=SC#309]Commend Vilita and Turori[/resolution], a commendation for a nation known far and wide for its wealth of prestigious international sports victories, as well as its exemplary contributions to the sporting community.;
  • Storytelling Expertise: [resolution=SC#334]Commend The Templar High Council[/resolution], an appreciation of the innumerable and fantastical tales spun by the people of The Templar High Council, as well as their aid in helping others to reach the same mastery of storytelling as their people have achieved.; and
  • Artwork Aggregation: [resolution=SC#287]Condemn Koem Kab[/resolution], a condemnation for the nation’s inordinate collection of international artwork and grand, year-long manipulation of the artwork market. a nation known for its villainous, long-term manipulation and hoarding of the international artwork trade;

Praising these resolutions (and several others) for bringing a wealth of little-known communities to the attention of the Security Council, and delighted that the examples they’ve provided lay out a wonderful baseline for future diversity in the Security Council; but

Acknowledging that there remains substantial room to grow, especially as the Security Council continues to modernize its practices and ideals;

Hereby declares that the Security Council and all its authors should, in the future, strive to use their skills and powers to acknowledge under-represented communities, nations, and regions across the multiverse in an effort to work towards a more inclusive future for the World Assembly.
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Postby Thousand Branches » Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:03 am

Apatosaurus wrote:-snip-

What I liked has been used, thank you :)
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Postby Thousand Branches » Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:38 am

I’ve rewritten the Warzone Codger clause because it read really nasty. A couple of small edits have also been made :)
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Postby Thousand Branches » Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:31 pm

As per earlier debate and some further discussions I’ve had with folks offsite, I’ve decided against including “Commend The Cat-Tribe” on this list. The negative connotations that come with it being written by an ooc blacklisted player outweigh any reason for the proposal to remain.

Ftr, I am also moving this to Last Call (officially) as I still plan to submit on Friday :)
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Postby Apatosaurus » Mon Dec 13, 2021 8:09 pm

No more comments (since we will eternally disagree regarding full stops lol), full support.
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Postby Minskiev » Mon Dec 13, 2021 8:18 pm

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Postby Great Algerstonia » Mon Dec 13, 2021 8:48 pm

Promotion of WA Diversity should be renamed Celebration of WA Diversity, it fits better as a title. This reads more like celebrating already existent WA diversity (celebration) instead of calling for more (promotion).
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Postby Thousand Branches » Mon Dec 13, 2021 9:04 pm

Great Algerstonia wrote:Promotion of WA Diversity should be renamed Celebration of WA Diversity, it fits better as a title. This reads more like celebrating already existent WA diversity (celebration) instead of calling for more (promotion).

Hmm I disagree. The resolutions being highlighted here serve the purpose of pointing out unrepresented communities and being a good baseline for future resolution writing. It isn’t about celebrating these resolutions entirely, it’s about how they will serve as a pedestal for us to do wonders for the future of WA diversity.

Now, admittedly, the word “advancement” (the original title of the res) might serve better here as it acknowledges that we are advancing from a place rather than promoting something new. In all honesty, it was a silly change on my part for uniqueness. I think I prefer that title anyway so I will change it back :)
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:26 pm

Good work, I agree with this title change.
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Postby Giovanniland » Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:50 pm

Full support to the current draft, will be happy to support when it comes to vote :)
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Postby Unibot III » Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:56 pm

Thousand Branches wrote:As per earlier debate and some further discussions I’ve had with folks offsite, I’ve decided against including “Commend The Cat-Tribe” on this list. The negative connotations that come with it being written by an ooc blacklisted player outweigh any reason for the proposal to remain.

Ftr, I am also moving this to Last Call (officially) as I still plan to submit on Friday :)


I completely understand this decision, Thousand Branches, but I can’t help but feel excluding the NSG community completely from the resolution suggests a flawed approach to the resolution.

Even though the purpose of the resolution is to advance recognition of nominees in other sub-communities, you’re overlooking the most under-recognized community because you don’t have an acceptable base proposal… because they’re under-recognized.

The sub-communities with the most examples for you to curate are the sub-communities suffering the least from under-recognition by the WA. There is an obvious alternative way forward, you can just include the NSG community without citing a base text.
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Postby Thousand Branches » Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:54 pm

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Thousand Branches wrote:As per earlier debate and some further discussions I’ve had with folks offsite, I’ve decided against including “Commend The Cat-Tribe” on this list. The negative connotations that come with it being written by an ooc blacklisted player outweigh any reason for the proposal to remain.

Ftr, I am also moving this to Last Call (officially) as I still plan to submit on Friday :)


I completely understand this decision, Thousand Branches, but I can’t help but feel excluding the NSG community completely from the resolution suggests a flawed approach to the resolution.

Even though the purpose of the resolution is to advance recognition of nominees in other sub-communities, you’re overlooking the most under-recognized community because you don’t have an acceptable base proposal… because they’re under-recognized.

The sub-communities with the most examples for you to curate are the sub-communities suffering the least from under-recognition by the WA. There is an obvious alternative way forward, you can just include the NSG community without citing a base text.

This is part of why I kept the clause in for so long. I have come up with an alternate solution that achieves this to the best of my ability. This clause has been added:

“Knowing that vast communities remain entirely unrepresented by this body, and believing that those communities should, in equal part, not be overlooked or denied deserved celebration;”

This serves as a catch-all for NSG and any other communities not mentioned in the resolution or represented at all in the SC. I think it works well :)
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Postby Unibot III » Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:03 am

Thousand Branches wrote:
Unibot III wrote:
I completely understand this decision, Thousand Branches, but I can’t help but feel excluding the NSG community completely from the resolution suggests a flawed approach to the resolution.

Even though the purpose of the resolution is to advance recognition of nominees in other sub-communities, you’re overlooking the most under-recognized community because you don’t have an acceptable base proposal… because they’re under-recognized.

The sub-communities with the most examples for you to curate are the sub-communities suffering the least from under-recognition by the WA. There is an obvious alternative way forward, you can just include the NSG community without citing a base text.

This is part of why I kept the clause in for so long. I have come up with an alternate solution that achieves this to the best of my ability. This clause has been added:

“Knowing that vast communities remain entirely unrepresented by this body, and believing that those communities should, in equal part, not be overlooked or denied deserved celebration;”

This serves as a catch-all for NSG and any other communities not mentioned in the resolution or represented at all in the SC. I think it works well :)


I appreciate the change. Maybe you should take a stab at commending a generalite! It would eliminate this issue. :P
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Postby Guess and Check » Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:01 am

Praising these resolutions (and several others) for bringing a wealth of little-known communities to the attention of the Security Council, and delighted that the examples they’ve provided lay out a wonderful baseline for future diversity in the Security Council; but


You're a lot better at grammar than I am so this is probably alright, but one suggestion I'd have is to huse ; however, instead of just "but". I think it reads more naturally, but again you know more than i :p

I got nothing else, this is a great draft and I support it
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Postby Thousand Branches » Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:13 am

Guess and Check wrote:
Praising these resolutions (and several others) for bringing a wealth of little-known communities to the attention of the Security Council, and delighted that the examples they’ve provided lay out a wonderful baseline for future diversity in the Security Council; but


You're a lot better at grammar than I am so this is probably alright, but one suggestion I'd have is to huse ; however, instead of just "but". I think it reads more naturally, but again you know more than i :p

I got nothing else, this is a great draft and I support it

I think “however” flows a little weirdly into the next clause? If your regard for that particular wording is matched elsewhere though, I’m happy to change it :)
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Postby Guess and Check » Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:16 am

Thousand Branches wrote:
Guess and Check wrote:
You're a lot better at grammar than I am so this is probably alright, but one suggestion I'd have is to huse ; however, instead of just "but". I think it reads more naturally, but again you know more than i :p

I got nothing else, this is a great draft and I support it

I think “however” flows a little weirdly into the next clause? If your regard for that particular wording is matched elsewhere though, I’m happy to change it :)

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Postby Quintessence of Dust » Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:16 am

The premise of this resolution is fundamentally flawed. Commendations were created for gameplay reasons and to solve a gameplay problem, and the sole justification for the creation of the Security Council was the refusal of the gameplay community to abide by the rules everyone else played by. Having succeeded in actually creating this separate chamber, there is absolutely no call to now try to get involved with the other parts of the NS world.

Rather than promoting diversity, it would be eminently preferable for the SC to concentrate on gameplay matters and leave everyone else alone.
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Postby Thousand Branches » Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:36 am

Quintessence of Dust wrote:The premise of this resolution is fundamentally flawed. Commendations were created for gameplay reasons and to solve a gameplay problem, and the sole justification for the creation of the Security Council was the refusal of the gameplay community to abide by the rules everyone else played by. Having succeeded in actually creating this separate chamber, there is absolutely no call to now try to get involved with the other parts of the NS world.

Rather than promoting diversity, it would be eminently preferable for the SC to concentrate on gameplay matters and leave everyone else alone.

Disagree, nothing else to add.
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Postby Giovanniland » Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:37 am

Quintessence of Dust wrote:The premise of this resolution is fundamentally flawed. Commendations were created for gameplay reasons and to solve a gameplay problem, and the sole justification for the creation of the Security Council was the refusal of the gameplay community to abide by the rules everyone else played by. Having succeeded in actually creating this separate chamber, there is absolutely no call to now try to get involved with the other parts of the NS world.

Rather than promoting diversity, it would be eminently preferable for the SC to concentrate on gameplay matters and leave everyone else alone.

The feuds during the GA/SC split over a decade ago have little importance on what areas the SC writes about nowadays, as you can see by the multiple resolutions about various themes highlighted in the proposal. This isn't a call for change, it is a recognition that the SC is already diverse and a call for the advancement of this diversity, and I disagree that anti-SC people like you should have a say on that.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:13 pm

I hadn’t commented on this draft until now, though I have been reading the thread. Wasn’t sure about the concept at first but the more I’ve read the more I’ve come round to the idea.

Think this is a nicely written piece of work Ara, best of luck with it.
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Postby Thousand Branches » Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:51 pm

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:I hadn’t commented on this draft until now, though I have been reading the thread. Wasn’t sure about the concept at first but the more I’ve read the more I’ve come round to the idea.

Think this is a nicely written piece of work Ara, best of luck with it.

Thanks so much BBD ^-^
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Postby Thousand Branches » Thu Dec 16, 2021 4:28 pm

Some small wording changes (and ordering the resolutions in the proper order that I somehow forgot to do?) have been made ahead of tomorrow’s submitting.
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Postby Thousand Branches » Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:48 am

As promised, this has now been submitted. Thank you to everyone for their help in making and editing this resolution ^-^
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Postby Lenlyvit » Fri Dec 17, 2021 7:02 am

Good luck!!
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Postby Minskiev » Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:36 am

Best of luck omg u got this
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