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Postby Hulldom » Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:28 pm

My thanks to Pallaith for their incredible effort fact-checking me this these last few days and making sure all of the Is are dotted and Ts are crossed. I know I may have been a bit short by the end of it, but I cannot thank you enough for making sure I got this right. I'd also like to applaud our late-to-NS friend Cretox, who wrote the initial draft of this that a lot of the information was gleaned from. Special thanks also go out to Poafmersia, Morover, and Lord Dominator for looking over this and to Courelli for looking at the TVF clause in particular.

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Commend Pallaith

Commendation | Nominee: Pallaith


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Believing that nations which contribute immensely to regional infrastructure and capacity over a long period are commendable if these regional contributions benefit the rest of the world;

Acknowledging that one of the most prominent nations that falls under this category is the ghoul-filled domain of Pallaith (commonly known as Ghost);

Pleased by Pallaith’s work in reviving The Versutian Federation (TVF) through their sister spirit Ghostopolis, where they proceeded to increase regional stability by:
  • Leading The Versutian Federation’s revival in 2015 after a period of instability which threatened the future of the region by recruiting new nations to the region and establishing a new legal system for national leaders,
  • Serving as Delegate for multiple periods, increasing the visibility of TVF in the World Assembly by accumulating endorsements and haunting the General Assembly with Ambassador Geist, and
  • Expanding the diplomatic ties of TVF by strengthening ties with many prominent leftist regions, including their historical allies Democratic Socialist Assembly and Social Liberal Union;
Assured by Ghost’s work between September of 2016 and January of 2017 in reviving and professionalizing the North Pacific (TNP)’s Ministry of World Assembly Affairs by reintroducing the consistent publication of voting recommendations for the first time since 2014, a practice that continues to this day;

Thrilled by Pallaith’s work as TNP Foreign Affairs Minister to continue a project to catalogue information on TNP’s embassy regions, known as the World Factbook Project, which was later expanded upon, became a key part of the work of The North Pacific's Diplomatic Corps, and was incorporated in TNP’s diplomatic reports;

Appreciative of Pallaith’s service as Vice Delegate of The North Pacific wherein they encouraged sharing of endorsements between nations in that region and voting in the World Assembly by supporting the addition of prizes of lucrative international artwork for nations as part of the expanded World Assembly Development Project;

Applauding Ghost’s service as Delegate of TNP where they helped to reform the region in a variety of ways, such as:
  • Creating the Gameside Advocates, a group of nations which serves as a liaison between nations which use the Regional Message Board to communicate with their fellow leaders and the broader Government of the North Pacific so that the Government can better represent and serve all residents,
  • Working to revive the World Assembly Legislative League (WALL) through their to work to admit WA stalwart Europe, a move which occurred shortly after they relinquished the Delegacy, and
  • Ensuring that the premier publication of The North Pacific, The Northern Light, was more frequently published, a trend continued under El Fiji Grande;
Saluting Ghost’s commitment to making their presence known in the wider international community as they have through their personal philosophy of "optimistic diplomacy", or reaching out to regions which the North Pacific has not historically been allies with and finding common ground through shared experiences, a fact best observed through their organization of interregional coalitions and events such as:
  • The UPPERCUT Faction which successfully held its own during previous iterations of the regular nuclear apocalypses which befall the universe, partly as a result of Pallaith’s status as one of the Commanders of TNP’s atomic forces,
  • The Friendship Fair, which brought together The North Pacific’s treatied allies and several non-treated embassy regions in Osiris, the New Pacific Order, and the West Pacific in a cultural affair replete with all manner of fun and games,
  • The First World Assembly Symposium, an event which brought together stakeholders in the World Assembly to discuss the state of the body at-large and provide encouragement to new authors, and
  • RaiderVision 5, an interregional event whose fifth iteration was hosted by TNP which succeeded in uniting all those under the military umbrella in a joyous celebration involving performances of songs celebrating the art--this particular edition also boasted the largest number of entries of any edition to date; and

Relieved then that even though their unknowable form frightens us, their remaining revenants are indeed friendly and that they are thus deserving of the honor;

Hereby Commends Pallaith.
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Postby Chodean Kal » Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:54 pm

I genuinely like Pallaith/Ghost. If TNP had a regional commendation program such as TWP, then this would be a perfect draft of his contributions towards the North and also his early history.

My concern is that this Council generally prefers to vote on a player who goes above and beyond in more than one region or community, or at least, it should. Can anything beyond TNP and TVF be added to this resolution?
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Postby Zukchiva » Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:11 am

I fully support this. I actually never knew Palliath had such an extensive contribution to TNP... Ive just seen them around when I lurk on TNP's forums xD.

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Postby Honeydewistania » Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:18 am

i support commendation of my bestie pallaith!!!!
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Postby Hulldom » Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:37 am

Chodean Kal wrote:I genuinely like Pallaith/Ghost. If TNP had a regional commendation program such as TWP, then this would be a perfect draft of his contributions towards the North and also his early history.

My concern is that this Council generally prefers to vote on a player who goes above and beyond in more than one region or community, or at least, it should. Can anything beyond TNP and TVF be added to this resolution?

From my understanding, not really. Though, as I pointed out to them, this is already a pretty extensive list of pretty deep accomplishments. I hope this doesn’t become an issue, but yeah….
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:48 am

This has my support.

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Postby Omnicontrol » Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:51 am

Long overdue. If this goes to vote, you can bet your money I'm voting for.
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Postby Emodea » Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:30 am

Chodean Kal wrote:My concern is that this Council generally prefers to vote on a player who goes above and beyond in more than one region or community, or at least, it should. Can anything beyond TNP and TVF be added to this resolution?

There have been historical precedents of the SC recognizing individuals who had limited their involvement in a single region (Paffnia, Markanite, Woonsocket, Tsunamy, McMasterdonia et al.), so I don't think that it will be that big of an issue.

Regionalism is and should be a commendable quality that players should be recognized for. It shouldn't detract anything from a nominee's accomplishments.
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Postby Praeceps » Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:51 pm

While well-written, this proposal has a number of factual errors from a quick glance.

Hulldom wrote:The consistent publication of voting recommendations on all proposals which come before the World Assembly, a practice which continues to this day,
This wasn't a new initiative of Ghost. The Ministry has previously had consistent publication of voting recommendations, the consistent publication was inconsistent (as in it would not be consistent across terms). However, since Ghost has been Minister, we have had consistent IFVs from the MoWAA across terms (even if we have had other challenges in the Ministry such as the workload being focused on a few individuals).
[*]An initiative which revived the World Assembly Legislative League (WALL) through such steps as increased cooperation on voting recommendations, such steps ultimately led to a renewed interest in WA authorship by that body;
Are you referring to a formal initiative here? If so, which one?
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Feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but I do believe the MoFA which did this was Tlomz.
Appreciative of Pallaith’s service as Vice Delegate of The North Pacific wherein they encouraged sharing of endorsements between nations in that region and voting in the World Assembly by incorporating prizes of lucrative international artwork for nations as part of the expanded World Assembly Development Project;

What specifically did Ghost do here? :eyebrow:
[*]Creating the Great Card Giveaway, a program wherein nations can request and receive pieces of lucrative international artwork and thereby boost their own collections,

The only contribution to the Great Card Giveaway that I recall from Ghost was posting the thread. Not sure that really counts as creating it. :P
[*]Creating the North Pacific Handbook, a series of dispatches which contain a variety of valuable regional information for new national leaders on topics such as TNP’s laws and Government, and
Something seems off with this one factually but not sure off the top of my head. I do believe it was a long-term project with a lot of people contributing to it—not just Ghost.
[*]Developing communications infrastructure in both print form, where they oversaw a revival of The Northern Lights through a re-imagining of its format with El Fiji Grande, and in more metaphysical forms, where they revived the Ministry of Radio;[/list]
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Postby Hulldom » Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:03 pm

Praeceps wrote:~snip~

I'm gonna note this here: Ghost signed off on this. I would not have posted it had it not. While I'm not going to accuse Praetor of being dishonest here, he also knows that this is not what the man himself or Cretox, or indeed myself, were able to find out. And, as noted, Ghost signed off on this and I cannot imagine he'd give me deliberately false information in a bid to booster his own commendability.

As for some of the points he made about elaboration-I simply don't have the characters to do that. At last check, this stands at 4,957. So we're right at the legal limit.
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Postby Refuge Isle » Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:32 pm

I would enjoy it if the draft were less of a list of lists, but strong support for an incredibly competent and accomplished nominee either way.

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Postby Minskiev » Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:36 pm

Everyones giving actual feedback and all im doing is pointing out that you never seemed to clarify that pallaith is ghost :p
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Postby Zukchiva » Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:49 pm

Hulldom wrote:
Praeceps wrote:~snip~

I'm gonna note this here: Ghost signed off on this. I would not have posted it had it not. While I'm not going to accuse Praetor of being dishonest here, he also knows that this is not what the man himself or Cretox, or indeed myself, were able to find out. And, as noted, Ghost signed off on this and I cannot imagine he'd give me deliberately false information in a bid to booster his own commendability.

As for some of the points he made about elaboration-I simply don't have the characters to do that. At last check, this stands at 4,957. So we're right at the legal limit.
Palliath failing to notice some inaccuracies doesn't really have to be a malicious intent on their part. I don't know Palliath at all, but I know personally that it's hard for me to remember a lot of what I did on NS. Could be what's happened here.

And at the very least, Praetor is correct about the WA recommendations from what I can see- seems those were an inconsistent thing before Palliath came into office, but they did become consistent after Palliath.
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Postby Giovanniland » Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:03 pm

Support in principle, I'll see if I can give some proper feedback as soon as I can.

Minskiev wrote:Everyones giving actual feedback and all im doing is pointing out that you never seemed to clarify that pallaith is ghost :p

They did, actually. Quoting the second clause (emphasis mine):
Knowing that one of the most prominent nations that falls under this category is the ghoul-filled domain of Pallaith (commonly known as Ghost);
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Postby Hulldom » Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:03 pm

Giovanniland wrote:Support in principle, I'll see if I can give some proper feedback as soon as I can.

Minskiev wrote:Everyones giving actual feedback and all im doing is pointing out that you never seemed to clarify that pallaith is ghost :p

They did, actually. Quoting the second clause (emphasis mine):
Knowing that one of the most prominent nations that falls under this category is the ghoul-filled domain of Pallaith (commonly known as Ghost);

Walrus is right, I added that after he noted it.
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Postby Minskiev » Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:04 pm

Giovanniland wrote:Support in principle, I'll see if I can give some proper feedback as soon as I can.

Minskiev wrote:Everyones giving actual feedback and all im doing is pointing out that you never seemed to clarify that pallaith is ghost :p

They did, actually. Quoting the second clause (emphasis mine):
Knowing that one of the most prominent nations that falls under this category is the ghoul-filled domain of Pallaith (commonly known as Ghost);


That's an edit. I'm 90% sure of it. If it isn't, well fuck me ig
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Postby Giovanniland » Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:05 pm

Minskiev wrote:That's an edit. I'm 90% sure of it. If it isn't, well fuck me ig

No, you're right as the author noted above.
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Postby Minskiev » Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:09 pm

Giovanniland wrote:
Minskiev wrote:That's an edit. I'm 90% sure of it. If it isn't, well fuck me ig

No, you're right as the author noted above.


They posted right before I did then
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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:15 pm

Definitely a commendable nominee and the draft is well-written. Easy support.
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Postby Hulldom » Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:48 pm

I’d like to thank Praetor and r3n for the critiques they gave, their criticisms have been incorporated into the latest draft.
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Postby Thousand Branches » Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:31 pm

Hulldom wrote:Believing that nations which contribute immensely to regional infrastructure and capacity over a long period are commendable if these regional contributions benefit the rest of the world;

I’m curious, what does “capacity” mean in this instance? Also should “a long period” be “a long period of time”? Or is that grammatically correct? I could be wrong.

Hulldom wrote: Knowing that one of the most prominent nations that falls under this category is the ghoul-filled domain of Pallaith (commonly known as Ghost);

I think “knowing” might work better as “acknowledging”. Totally opinion but I think that flows a bit better

Hulldom wrote: Pleased by Pallaith’s work in reviving The Versutian Federation (TVF) through their sister spirit Ghostopolis and proceeded to increase regional stability by:

Read that out loud and it doesn’t work grammatically. I think it’s that “and proceeded” should be “, proceeding” Yep, thats it.

Hulldom wrote: Assured by Ghost’s work in reviving and professionalizing the North Pacific (TNP)’s Ministry of World Assembly Affairs shortly after their arrival in the region including reintroducing the consistent publication of voting recommendations for the first time since 2014, re-inaugurating a practice that continues to this day;

I would split this into two sentences because as one it’s very confusing. Maybe take the “including” and make it “. This included”

Hulldom wrote:Thrilled by Pallaith’s work as TNP Foreign Affairs Minister to continue a project to catalogue information on TNP’s embassy regions, known as the World Factbook Project, which subsequent ministers expounded upon, was incorporated in TNP’s diplomatic reports, and which was released for the edification of the general republic;

“was incorporated in” should be “incorporated into”. Also “which was” is unnecessary.

Hulldom wrote: Appreciative of Pallaith’s service as Vice Delegate of The North Pacific wherein they encouraged sharing of endorsements between nations in that region and voting in the World Assembly by supporting the addition of prizes of lucrative international artwork for nations as part of the expanded World Assembly Development Project;

“As part of the expanded World Assembly Development Project” makes the whole sentence really choppy. If it’s that the nations are part of it, you could do “who participated in” and otherwise I’d either remove it or edit in some way because it took me like 4 times to get the point on that sentence.

Hulldom wrote:Fostering improvements in TNP's communications infrastructure, ensuring that The Northern Light was regularly published, said professionalization continued and was expanded under El Fiji Grande

The “said professionalism” part reads really weird, and also seems unrelated to the candidate. I imagine it’s supposed to say like that Pallaith ensured that the newspaper ended up in good hands with the next person? If so I would reword that last bit

Hulldom wrote:RaiderVision 5, TNP hosted the fifth edition of this interregional event and united all those under the military umbrella in a joyous celebration involving performances of songs celebrating the art--this particular edition also boasted the largest number of entries of any edition to date; and

I’d change “TNP hosted the fifth edition of this interregional event and united” to “an interregional event hosted by TNP which succeeded in uniting”. Something similar would work as well just to make that a little smoother.
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Postby Hulldom » Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:23 pm

Thousand Branches wrote:
Hulldom wrote:Believing that nations which contribute immensely to regional infrastructure and capacity over a long period are commendable if these regional contributions benefit the rest of the world;

I’m curious, what does “capacity” mean in this instance? Also should “a long period” be “a long period of time”? Or is that grammatically correct? I could be wrong.

Hulldom wrote: Knowing that one of the most prominent nations that falls under this category is the ghoul-filled domain of Pallaith (commonly known as Ghost);

I think “knowing” might work better as “acknowledging”. Totally opinion but I think that flows a bit better

Hulldom wrote: Pleased by Pallaith’s work in reviving The Versutian Federation (TVF) through their sister spirit Ghostopolis and proceeded to increase regional stability by:

Read that out loud and it doesn’t work grammatically. I think it’s that “and proceeded” should be “, proceeding” Yep, thats it.

Hulldom wrote: Assured by Ghost’s work in reviving and professionalizing the North Pacific (TNP)’s Ministry of World Assembly Affairs shortly after their arrival in the region including reintroducing the consistent publication of voting recommendations for the first time since 2014, re-inaugurating a practice that continues to this day;

I would split this into two sentences because as one it’s very confusing. Maybe take the “including” and make it “. This included”

Hulldom wrote:Thrilled by Pallaith’s work as TNP Foreign Affairs Minister to continue a project to catalogue information on TNP’s embassy regions, known as the World Factbook Project, which subsequent ministers expounded upon, was incorporated in TNP’s diplomatic reports, and which was released for the edification of the general republic;

“was incorporated in” should be “incorporated into”. Also “which was” is unnecessary.

Hulldom wrote: Appreciative of Pallaith’s service as Vice Delegate of The North Pacific wherein they encouraged sharing of endorsements between nations in that region and voting in the World Assembly by supporting the addition of prizes of lucrative international artwork for nations as part of the expanded World Assembly Development Project;

“As part of the expanded World Assembly Development Project” makes the whole sentence really choppy. If it’s that the nations are part of it, you could do “who participated in” and otherwise I’d either remove it or edit in some way because it took me like 4 times to get the point on that sentence.

Hulldom wrote:Fostering improvements in TNP's communications infrastructure, ensuring that The Northern Light was regularly published, said professionalization continued and was expanded under El Fiji Grande

The “said professionalism” part reads really weird, and also seems unrelated to the candidate. I imagine it’s supposed to say like that Pallaith ensured that the newspaper ended up in good hands with the next person? If so I would reword that last bit

Hulldom wrote:RaiderVision 5, TNP hosted the fifth edition of this interregional event and united all those under the military umbrella in a joyous celebration involving performances of songs celebrating the art--this particular edition also boasted the largest number of entries of any edition to date; and

I’d change “TNP hosted the fifth edition of this interregional event and united” to “an interregional event hosted by TNP which succeeded in uniting”. Something similar would work as well just to make that a little smoother.

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1. Capacity is fine in this instance and it means it in the strictly political science sense of the word "the ability and capabilities to govern".
2. Well taken.
3. Well taken. Changed to "where they proceeded"
4. I don't believe that to be necessary. It should be fine with "by" instead of "including".
5. Added "whose fifth iteration" between "event" and "hosted" but otherwise well taken.

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Postby Thousand Branches » Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:15 pm

Hulldom wrote:Assured by Ghost’s work in reviving and professionalizing the North Pacific (TNP)’s Ministry of World Assembly Affairs shortly after their arrival in the region by reintroducing the consistent publication of voting recommendations for the first time since 2014, re-inaugurating a practice that continues to this day;

Oh one other thing I didn't notice before, but this clause also uses both "reintroducing" and "re-inaugurating". Are those referring to two different things? If not, I would think "re-inaugurating" is somewhat redundant.

Also, the clause still sounds odd to me, and I think it's the "shortly after their arrival in the region" that's throwing me off. I'm not sure it's a necessary piece of information and the sentence sounds a lot better without it. You could also probably find a way to reword it if you wanted to keep it, I'm just not sure how I would do it. Maybe try putting it somewhere before the Ministry bit? That would make a little more sense than in the middle of the sentence I think. I'm probably obsessing over a tiny thing that doesn't really matter but whatevs, hopefully this is somewhat helpful :p
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Postby Hulldom » Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:24 am

Thousand Branches wrote:
Hulldom wrote:Assured by Ghost’s work in reviving and professionalizing the North Pacific (TNP)’s Ministry of World Assembly Affairs shortly after their arrival in the region by reintroducing the consistent publication of voting recommendations for the first time since 2014, re-inaugurating a practice that continues to this day;

Oh one other thing I didn't notice before, but this clause also uses both "reintroducing" and "re-inaugurating". Are those referring to two different things? If not, I would think "re-inaugurating" is somewhat redundant.

Also, the clause still sounds odd to me, and I think it's the "shortly after their arrival in the region" that's throwing me off. I'm not sure it's a necessary piece of information and the sentence sounds a lot better without it. You could also probably find a way to reword it if you wanted to keep it, I'm just not sure how I would do it. Maybe try putting it somewhere before the Ministry bit? That would make a little more sense than in the middle of the sentence I think. I'm probably obsessing over a tiny thing that doesn't really matter but whatevs, hopefully this is somewhat helpful :p

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Postby Thousand Branches » Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:42 am

Hulldom wrote:Should be fixed?

Maybe change “the consistency of publishing voting recommendations continues to this day;” to something a little more pared down? Something more like “a practice that continues to this day;” Other than that though, the rest of the clause looks awesome!
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