[PASSED] Access to Transgender Hormone Therapy

[Hulldom]

I have nothing against transgender people. I stand strongly against forcing these permanent medical treatments onto children. If your not old enough to consent to sex because they are not mentally ready they shouldn't be able to change their sex.

I haven't been happy with the world assembly for a while but this is the straw that broke the camel's back for me. Not to be a Natsov but the original intention of this assembly was to deal with international issues. things like nuclear weapons or trade treaties. How in the world is the decision to legalize or prohibit medication for optional sex reassignment, to children mind you an international concern?

Ambassador Van Rooy sits in the corner of the voting lobby

"It's an international issue in the same way those issues are. Some nations possess weapons of mass destruction and favorable trade terms. Many of us, albeit not all of us, desire those things. It's on us to ensure that all of us are bounded on an agreeable and acceptable code of conduct surrounding those subjects. That way, nations have at least minimal guidance on how to approach these subjects.

The same thing goes for what many deem 'civil or human rights'--those of us who possess them must set agreeable and acceptable minimums for those of us who do not possess them so that when your nation inevitably does rise up from the backwater of moral turpitude that is decrying "permanent medical treatments onto children", your nation knows exactly what it must protect.

Or rather what it will protect to remain a member in good standing of this Assembly....and out of the clutches of the Compliance Commission as well."

[Hookah Castle]

Speaking of trades, the only part that made me vote no was the idea that these hormone therapies are not subject to market values and basically under strict cost to cost ratios. Hookah Castle did not become such a wealthy nation in such a short amount of time by setting price caps! I had to imperialize some NPC nations to make up the difference this would undoubtedly cost...think of the poor little npc nations.

If that part was taken out I'd vote for it. Would make my job ten times easier anyway always contemplating market manipulation.

There's gotta be a nicer word for that...
The "we did it Reddit" economic stimulus package.

[Wallenburg]

Ogenbond leans forward in his seat. "Once again, the World Assembly panders to the madness of the transsexual delusion. How many times do my fellow ambasssadors need to lie and pretend that transsexuals do not need help? How many times do we need to take these small steps against medical consensus? Is it something you do for publicity these days? Back when I became Chief Representative, we earned reputations by throwing nuts like you out the nearest window. Burn the whole building if this place hasn't gotten even more cartoonish than it was before."

Gerald hangs around the back of the room, dull eyes following Ogenbond's gesticulations. His mouth tightens as the representative goes on.

[Coronational Chechyans and affiliates]

I have nothing against transgender people. I stand strongly against forcing these permanent medical treatments onto children. If your not old enough to consent to sex because they are not mentally ready they shouldn't be able to change their sex.

I haven't been happy with the world assembly for a while but this is the straw that broke the camel's back for me. Not to be a Natsov but the original intention of this assembly was to deal with international issues. things like nuclear weapons or trade treaties. How in the world is the decision to legalize or prohibit medication for optional sex reassignment, to children mind you an international concern?

Ambassador Van Rooy sits in the corner of the voting lobby

"It's an international issue in the same way those issues are. Some nations possess weapons of mass destruction and favorable trade terms. Many of us, albeit not all of us, desire those things. It's on us to ensure that all of us are bounded on an agreeable and acceptable code of conduct surrounding those subjects. That way, nations have at least minimal guidance on how to approach these subjects.

The same thing goes for what many deem 'civil or human rights'--those of us who possess them must set agreeable and acceptable minimums for those of us who do not possess them so that when your nation inevitably does rise up from the backwater of moral turpitude that is decrying "permanent medical treatments onto children", your nation knows exactly what it must protect.

Or rather what it will protect to remain a member in good standing of this Assembly....and out of the clutches of the Compliance Commission as well."

This is not an international affair at all. The assembly shames itself by becoming nothing more then far left virtue signaling. Poor confused kids being permanently harmed physically and mentally because we are ignoring science and sacrificing them at the altar of political correctness. 50 years from now we will look back at all the people who killed themself as a result of misguided treatments they were given as children the same way we look at lobotomies now. I have no doubt in my mind we would make a resolution guaranteeing that surgery if the assembly was around in the 30s. I have no doubt people who opposed dangerous experiments on children would be called bigots then as well

[Neo-Western East Korea]

I have to agree with the points of Hookah, all items should be subject to market value, especially medicine, so we can charge more on them

[Sylh Alanor]

I have nothing against transgender people. I stand strongly against forcing these permanent medical treatments onto children. If your not old enough to consent to sex because they are not mentally ready they shouldn't be able to change their sex.

I haven't been happy with the world assembly for a while but this is the straw that broke the camel's back for me. Not to be a Natsov but the original intention of this assembly was to deal with international issues. things like nuclear weapons or trade treaties. How in the world is the decision to legalize or prohibit medication for optional sex reassignment, to children mind you an international concern?

Protecting oppressed minority groups from governments - like yours- that would mischaracterise and twist their needs so that they can be repressed is an international issue.

[Andragonia]

We are considering changing our vote to register a dissent. But this is only on account of Article 3. While the Principality understand and appreciate that gender is a performance and therefore not real, and that it is driven by the subjectives needs and wants and inclinations of each individual, we do not see why this should affect those offering their professional services to make this happen for transgendered individuals.

I agree to all other Articles, except article 3 which stipulates that all costs are to be born by the State. If I have read this incorrectly, then a clarification in the phrasing would be in order.

Thank you!

[Thassala]

I have nothing against transgender people. I stand strongly against forcing these permanent medical treatments onto children. If your not old enough to consent to sex because they are not mentally ready they shouldn't be able to change their sex.

I haven't been happy with the world assembly for a while but this is the straw that broke the camel's back for me. Not to be a Natsov but the original intention of this assembly was to deal with international issues. things like nuclear weapons or trade treaties. How in the world is the decision to legalize or prohibit medication for optional sex reassignment, to children mind you an international concern?

"Perhaps you will be gratified to learn, Ambassador, that in your no doubt exhaustive reading of the proposal you must have accidentally misunderstood the terminology. None of the procedures detailed and protected within this document are mandatory. If you can point out provisions within the proposal where medical procedures are being carried out against the will of the person, then I assure you Thassala would take serious issue with that."

Callan leant forward in concern. "I am certain that good-natured concern for welfare is your only watchword here. Unfortunately, some unscrupulous types mischaracterise transgender protections as child abuse in order to make a poor faith insinuation about the moral character of transgender people and those who support them. I'm old enough to have seen it weaponized against a number of minorities, and it's as tragic to see as it is unfortunately predictable. I feel sure you wouldn't want to feed into that outdated rhetoric now."

[Coronational Chechyans and affiliates]

I have nothing against transgender people. I stand strongly against forcing these permanent medical treatments onto children. If your not old enough to consent to sex because they are not mentally ready they shouldn't be able to change their sex.

I haven't been happy with the world assembly for a while but this is the straw that broke the camel's back for me. Not to be a Natsov but the original intention of this assembly was to deal with international issues. things like nuclear weapons or trade treaties. How in the world is the decision to legalize or prohibit medication for optional sex reassignment, to children mind you an international concern?

"Perhaps you will be gratified to learn, Ambassador, that in your no doubt exhaustive reading of the proposal you must have accidentally misunderstood the terminology. None of the procedures detailed and protected within this document are mandatory. If you can point out provisions within the proposal where medical procedures are being carried out against the will of the person, then I assure you Thassala would take serious issue with that."

Callan leant forward in concern. "I am certain that good-natured concern for welfare is your only watchword here. Unfortunately, some unscrupulous types mischaracterise transgender protections as child abuse in order to make a poor faith insinuation about the moral character of transgender people and those who support them. I'm old enough to have seen it weaponized against a number of minorities, and it's as tragic to see as it is unfortunately predictable. I feel sure you wouldn't want to feed into that outdated rhetoric now."

Children shouldn't be allowed to make these decisions. They aren't old enough to fully understand how this will effect them in the future. You might as well make a law guaranteeing children get the right to have tattoos or make cosmetic mutilations of themselves such as tongue splitting. The mandatory part is where it forces nations to make these available for those under the age of majority

It's extremely unfair that instead of engaging on the specifics of children I keep getting called a bigot. The actions of some bad faith actors should not be used to dismiss legitimate concerns. If an adult wants to undergo surgery or take hormone blockers they have that right. Grown people have enough agency and mental ability to make these decisions. But forcing this onto children specifically is where I have the issue. Especially when the scarce science that does exist now shows that many of these kids are pressured into these blockers and surgery will later regret it.

[Thassala]

Children shouldn't be allowed to make these decisions. They aren't old enough to fully understand how this will effect them in the future. You might as well make a law guaranteeing children get the right to have tattoos or make cosmetic mutilations of themselves such as tongue splitting. The mandatory part is where it forces nations to make these available for those under the age of majority

It's extremely unfair that instead of engaging on the specifics of children I keep getting called a bigot. The actions of some bad faith actors should not be used to dismiss legitimate concerns. If an adult wants to undergo surgery or take hormone blockers they have that right. Grown people have enough agency and mental ability to make these decisions. But forcing this onto children specifically is where I have the issue. Especially when the scarce science that does exist now shows that many of these kids are pressured into these blockers and surgery will later regret it.

"The provisions for 'free and informed consent' appear to ensure that everyone involved understands the nature of the procedure, and forgive me Ambassador but I'm certain I don't have to explain to you why an adult taking puberty blockers will have a less than optimal outcome. The procedures described are not 'cosmetic mutilations' and it does both of us a disservice for you to refer to them as such. Continuing to use language like 'force' runs the risk of your legitimate concerns appearing hollow."

Callan sighed, sitting back in her chair. "I am not a transgender individual, and as such I can only speak from an observer's point of view. I would welcome a member of that community to come forward and speak on their behalf, but the burden of our education should not be assumed to fall on their shoulders. The Republic of Thassala has always championed scientific advancement, and I accept that this has left us with an occasionally lacking perspective when it comes to more...spiritual, or emotive argument. I would be extremely interested in the studies you cite regarding those individuals who come to regret the procedures, along with who commissioned the study. The international scientific consensus holds that those cases, while still unfortunate and worthy of our support, are vanishingly small in number."

[Axmanlandia]

The axmanlandiain representative has arrived without his usual diplomatic jacuzzi and has set his drug injector pack to minimum levels as a gesture of respect to the framers of this legislation

Eschewing his normal flamboyant affect he raises a glass toasts the legislations success and formally registers axmanlandian support for this wise and progressive legislation

[Reich Hungary]

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[Marxist Germany]

"The World Assembly is such a benevolent organisation that it mandates abortions and hormone therapy be free for its citizens, but does not do the same for food, housing, healthcare, or education. It is almost as if this resolution was only intended to be a political victory over the ever-shrinking conservative coalition in the General Assembly."

[Bananaistan]

"The World Assembly is such a benevolent organisation that it mandates abortions and hormone therapy be free for its citizens, but does not do the same for food, housing, healthcare, or education. It is almost as if this resolution was only intended to be a political victory over the ever-shrinking conservative coalition in the General Assembly."

"This is fake news. "[Cost] no more than the fees absolutely necessary for the manufacturing and distribution of hormone therapy" =/= free.

[Reich Hungary]

"The World Assembly is such a benevolent organisation that it mandates abortions and hormone therapy be free for its citizens, but does not do the same for food, housing, healthcare, or education. It is almost as if this resolution was only intended to be a political victory over the ever-shrinking conservative coalition in the General Assembly."

"This is fake news. "[Cost] no more than the fees absolutely necessary for the manufacturing and distribution of hormone therapy" =/= free.

It will be free for people 100% why I wrote this because the certificate has to be paid and then it turns into the (FREE) system, the state must buy this drug for and for everyone it will be free, the state must pay a refund for the certefikat and for the creator's company must earn and others in factories but it will be free, do not worry, other countries, I wanted this certificate and factories to earn 100% on this FREE drug.

[Unified Communist Councils]

The Supreme Council Assembly of the PUCCR Say: [Hatalog Delegate, Salvadora Gracie Sison Agustín:] "There is a certainty that the World Assembly's anti-hormone therapy hysteria will not end with anything serious. I am a Male-To-Female transitioner, and one of my responsibilities as a Delegate is carrying out consensuses on minority populations; this includes the transition community. Based on the statistical findings of the last ten years since 80 AAY, our stats indicate that the community is stable around a 1% margin out of Council Union's total population of 700 million. This is within a union where such people can safely express themselves. Therefore those inciting fears of 'an increased burden on the taxpayer', should actually account for the costs and you will find that the total expense amounts to very little. A little over 12,000 Proles per year undergo the procedure, so suppose we take the upper maximum of fees (Ignoring sunk costs)." * Salvadora takes out her scientific calculator. * "It will cost the would-be transitioner 90 Wealth and Commodities a month for an entire year, and if roughly 12,000 people a year undergo the procedure, the cost adds up to 1.2 million Wealth and Commodities per annum. A considerate government that can afford to nationalize important healthcare practices, falling under public welfare, should support and not repress its minorities. However, acknowledging that systematic inequalities exist within the societies of other nation-states, I implore that all good-willed nations stand by this Resolution, its passing is a win for the multiversal egalitarian struggle. The Hatalog people can only express our unequivocal support for this Resolution." [Koriyan Delegate, Kim Dokja:] "May I add onto that, Delegate Agustín, that Clause 3, Provision B of the Transgender Hormone Therapy Resolution recognizes that hormone therapy should not be made mandatory for anyone of any demographic. Furthermore, Provision A of Clause 3 also outlines that exemptions are possible on the basis of danger to one's own vitality, which should be considered to be based on objective decisions made by qualified medical practitioners. Ergo, the Koriyan people do not find the objections, based on [slippery slope fallacies] and [presumptuous and buzzword-characterized political rhetoric], as objections made in good faith or sound reasoning. Believing that nationalizing a healthcare practice protects the people's interest through standardized and universal regulation and that such practices are affordable, we express our endorsement for the Resolution at hand."

[Norvew]

We refuse to mandate hormone therapy for some people with gender dysphoria. I will not comply even if the WA states that I have to...

[Tinhampton]

We refuse to mandate hormone therapy for some people with gender dysphoria. I will not comply even if the WA states that I have to...

ATHT2 will actually ban your nation from "mandat[ing] hormone therapy for" anyone.

[Wallenburg]

We refuse to mandate hormone therapy for some people with gender dysphoria. I will not comply even if the WA states that I have to...

If you will pick and choose which resolutions you comply with, why should anyone bother accommodating your beliefs?

[Tsaivao]

Delegate Manhu held a bell up by his wing and rung it very loudly. "Everyone, everyone, take a drink! Another non-compliant conservative nation in the World Assembly! Quick, someone tell them about GAR 91, GAR 457, GAR 467, and GAR 542!! Someone hit them with the crippling fines!!"

Ambassador Callan groaned, rubbing her temples. "Delegate Manhu, while we have been grateful for your wise guidance on a number of issues in the past, I must take some umbrage at your adherence to this particular Assembly tradition. Whenever a proposal of this type arrives before the Assembly, my aspirin budget goes through the roof."

Delegate Manhu folded his wings behind his back as he spoke into the microphone with a sense of indignation. "Apologies, Ambassador Callan, but we Vao are creatures of tradition. Birds have been screaming into the sky every time the Sun rises over the horizon for the past 30 million years, and I do not intend to break such traditions." With that, he attempted another swig, only to find his container empty. "I always wonder why they allow alcohol on the debate chamber, especially when I'm so good at ridding of it..." he mumbled to himself.

This is not an international affair at all. The assembly shames itself by becoming nothing more then far left virtue signaling. Poor confused kids being permanently harmed physically and mentally because we are ignoring science and sacrificing them at the altar of political correctness. 50 years from now we will look back at all the people who killed themself as a result of misguided treatments they were given as children the same way we look at lobotomies now. I have no doubt in my mind we would make a resolution guaranteeing that surgery if the assembly was around in the 30s. I have no doubt people who opposed dangerous experiments on children would be called bigots then as well

"Comparing puberty blockers to fucking lobotomies, Ambassador?? I would have thought that someone like you who is clearly so well-versed in 'science' would recognize the difference between taking a pill or topical rub, versus drilling a hole in someone's skull and pouring alcohol on the brain. Unlike lobotomies, you see, the effects of puberty blockers and hormone treatments are well-known within the medical field, and have always been available for young children since before transgender rights activism became popular. Quit with this anti-intellectual nonsense to try and equate perfectly healthy (and reversible!) procedures with the barbaric psychology of yore."

"The World Assembly is such a benevolent organisation that it mandates abortions and hormone therapy be free for its citizens, but does not do the same for food, housing, healthcare, or education. It is almost as if this resolution was only intended to be a political victory over the ever-shrinking conservative coalition in the General Assembly."

Delegate Manhu took a book containing World Assembly resolutions and slammed it against his face, much to the disturbance of his Vao aide. After a few moments of agonizing silence and pained chuckles, Manhu looked back up and addressed the assembly. "How many times do people have to point out already-existing legislature to the 'Conservative Coalition' before they realize that we did that already. Food? Try GAR 52 and GAR 469. Housing problems? Try GAR 344. Healthcare?? Oh boy, maybe look at GAR 31, GAR 97, GAR 412, hell, even GAR 480 is a good one for that!! Education, how about GAR 80, GAR 159, GAR 474, GAR 493, maybe even more that I couldn't find by just searching with bloody keywords, ambassador!!"

Manhu sat back down and readjusted himself. "So yes, I would agree, we are a pretty benevolent organization. Please go inform the 'Conservative Coalition' that it would help their attendance to stop ignoring the existence of legislation that conveniently disproves their argument." With that point, he shouted as loud as he could for the whole assembly, "ON THAT NOTE, FOR PEOPLE IN THE BACK, GAR 467 LITERALLY HAS A CLAUSE THAT PREVENTS PEOPLE FROM TAKING HORMONE THERAPY AGAINST THEIR WILL, SO STOP SAYING THAT!"

With that, Manhu sat down, thrusting his cup into his aide without saying anything. "On it, sir," he said with a tone of exhaustion.

[Hulldom]

"ON THAT NOTE, FOR PEOPLE IN THE BACK, GAR 467 LITERALLY HAS A CLAUSE THAT PREVENTS PEOPLE FROM TAKING HORMONE THERAPY AGAINST THEIR WILL, SO STOP SAYING THAT!"

With that, Manhu sat down, thrusting his cup into his aide without saying anything. "On it, sir," he said with a tone of exhaustion.

Van Rooy chimes in from her seat: "As does this one, Sir."

"On anther note, no need to shout. I know the voting lobbies can be quite a raucous place but they're not at the moment."

[Niveusium]

"Perhaps you will be gratified to learn, Ambassador, that in your no doubt exhaustive reading of the proposal you must have accidentally misunderstood the terminology. None of the procedures detailed and protected within this document are mandatory. If you can point out provisions within the proposal where medical procedures are being carried out against the will of the person, then I assure you Thassala would take serious issue with that."

Callan leant forward in concern. "I am certain that good-natured concern for welfare is your only watchword here. Unfortunately, some unscrupulous types mischaracterise transgender protections as child abuse in order to make a poor faith insinuation about the moral character of transgender people and those who support them. I'm old enough to have seen it weaponized against a number of minorities, and it's as tragic to see as it is unfortunately predictable. I feel sure you wouldn't want to feed into that outdated rhetoric now."

Children shouldn't be allowed to make these decisions. They aren't old enough to fully understand how this will effect them in the future. You might as well make a law guaranteeing children get the right to have tattoos or make cosmetic mutilations of themselves such as tongue splitting. The mandatory part is where it forces nations to make these available for those under the age of majority

It's extremely unfair that instead of engaging on the specifics of children I keep getting called a bigot. The actions of some bad faith actors should not be used to dismiss legitimate concerns. If an adult wants to undergo surgery or take hormone blockers they have that right. Grown people have enough agency and mental ability to make these decisions. But forcing this onto children specifically is where I have the issue. Especially when the scarce science that does exist now shows that many of these kids are pressured into these blockers and surgery will later regret it.

"But puberty blockers are reversible- just stop using them and the onset of puberty will continue. In fact, we use it constantly on cisgender children to delay early-onset puberty. If you allow the usage of puberty blockers on cisgender children but not transgender children, then you don't care about the children, you only care about the fact that you don't want transgender children to be safe and happy. You don't want transgender individuals to be themselves. If you don't want to comply with this, you can very well just withdraw from the WA, and I'll be more than happy to accept any transgender refugees that come from your nation."

[Hookah Castle]

I have to agree with the points of Hookah, all items should be subject to market value, especially medicine, so we can charge more on them

Based and smoke pilled.

In fact I just thought of a work around. Unrelated I got the banner for 100℅ privatized healthcare. You can't deny something if you don't make it (I wouldn't deny anyone anything, no jannies in neo-Rapture) And "inhabitants" is a vague enough wording where I could separate my parliament from my citizenry. Cause I'm not against immigration either and people rarely get taxed. For all intents and purposes everyone is basically a sovereign citizen. There isn't even prisons, people just get fined.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fHSwm9BRT1c

Just like the bad guy from Lethal Weapon 2.

[Tsaivao]

"ON THAT NOTE, FOR PEOPLE IN THE BACK, GAR 467 LITERALLY HAS A CLAUSE THAT PREVENTS PEOPLE FROM TAKING HORMONE THERAPY AGAINST THEIR WILL, SO STOP SAYING THAT!"

With that, Manhu sat down, thrusting his cup into his aide without saying anything. "On it, sir," he said with a tone of exhaustion.

Van Rooy chimes in from her seat: "As does this one, Sir."

"On anther note, no need to shout. I know the voting lobbies can be quite a raucous place but they're not at the moment."

"Apologies, Ambassador, but when one repeats themselves enough times, their volume inexplicably rises..." Manhu said, straightening up and calming down somewhat.

The aide returned with a drink for Manhu, as well as the ambassador from Hulldom.

[Velosia]

I will not mince words. Velosia is not a nation that can be counted amongst those that to subscribe to the 'Transgender' ideology. We are not, as the regressive left would put it, on the 'right' side of history in that respect. We do, however, strongly defend the right of individuals to make their own decisions so long as they are not wilfully subjecting themselves or others to serious physical or mental harm.

The provisions of this resolution seem to grant WA member nations a satisfactory amount of leeway to ensure such treatments can be properly regulated as to adequately safeguard impressionable young people against irreversible damage to their physical and mental wellbeing. So long as this remains the case, we see no reason to object to the passage of this resolution.

Velosia shall be voting IN FAVOUR.