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The Hazar Amisnery
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Postby The Hazar Amisnery » Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:43 am

Varanius wrote:
The Hazar Amisnery wrote:I think that rule means commending a mod for banning someone
Then you’re just wrong.

Next in line please.

What do you mean?
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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:49 am

The Hazar Amisnery wrote:
Varanius wrote: Then you’re just wrong.

Next in line please.

What do you mean?

The rule means that you cannot commend/condemn a site staff for actions that they do on a daily basis (admin work, site moderation, issues editing, etc.), but for stuff unrelated to that, you can still commend/condemn them.
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Postby Varanius » Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:18 am

The Hazar Amisnery wrote:
Varanius wrote: Then you’re just wrong.

Next in line please.

What do you mean?
Well, site staff duties (presumably) involve more than just banning nations. It means you can’t C/C for site staff actions. I’d assume it would be similarly illegal to commend a mod for adding new features to the game. So it encompasses more than just banning people.
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Postby Kinben-ism » Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:25 pm

The Unified Missourtama States wrote:
Kinben-ism wrote:"concur" "nonetheless" Jesus, do you always talk like a character straight out of Charles Dickens?

Dickens would not have used "nonetheless" in his lifetime (1812 to 1870[1]), it simply didn't exist,[2] people weren't using it.[3] Right now, people are using "nonetheless" more than any other time in history.[3] What's the point of your question anyway? We all have different dialects, don't be rude because of them.


[1]: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Dictiona ... s,_Charles

[2]: https://www.etymonline.com/word/nonetheless

[2]: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?c ... itive=true


Oh, I'm sorry. Did I hurt your feelings? Such a sorrowful and tragic day today was. :lol2:
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Postby New Visayan Islands » Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:56 pm

Kinben-ism wrote:
The Unified Missourtama States wrote:Dickens would not have used "nonetheless" in his lifetime (1812 to 1870[1]), it simply didn't exist,[2] people weren't using it.[3] Right now, people are using "nonetheless" more than any other time in history.[3] What's the point of your question anyway? We all have different dialects, don't be rude because of them.


[1]: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Dictiona ... s,_Charles

[2]: https://www.etymonline.com/word/nonetheless

[2]: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?c ... itive=true


Oh, I'm sorry. Did I hurt your feelings? Such a sorrowful and tragic day today was. :lol2:

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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:16 pm

Varanius wrote:
The Hazar Amisnery wrote:What do you mean?
Well, site staff duties (presumably) involve more than just banning nations. It means you can’t C/C for site staff actions. I’d assume it would be similarly illegal to commend a mod for adding new features to the game. So it encompasses more than just banning people.

It's like "[site staff member] should be condemned because they banned me for three days on the forum" compared to "[site staff member] should be condemned for leading a huge raiding network against harmless regions and being involved in countless raids."

The first one is illegal, but the second one is legal. I do know Jakker, a moderator, has a condemn badge because of their involvement in TBH and other raiding operations.
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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:32 am

This is what happens when you don't participate in the drafting process.
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Postby Kinben-ism » Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:04 pm

Wallenburg wrote:This is what happens when you don't participate in the drafting process.


This.
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Postby Amerion » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:27 pm

Bears Armed wrote:Testlandia is a nation used by game staff for various purposes: Commending it for its actions might fall under the ban on commending game staff for actions carried out in their official roles.

And this whole time, I thought they were a nation who just really liked dispatches ... my whole life has been a lie!
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Postby Team Lennox » Mon Aug 02, 2021 3:44 am

It's in queue now...
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:34 pm

I will vote 'For' this resolution on my WA just out of spite for the bullshit that TUMS has endured in this thread.
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Postby Varanius » Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:36 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:I will vote 'For' this resolution on my WA just out of spite for the bullshit that TUMS has endured in this thread.
And what bullshit might that be?
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:37 pm

Kinben-ism wrote:
The Unified Missourtama States wrote:Honeydewistania has presented an opinion with which I concur; satire is no excuse for poor writing. I'd like to challenge her to write a better one, but I know it would be practically the same due to legal limitations of commending a nation like Testlandia; nonetheless I will take fault for having no open drafting period, I violated democracy in a way.

"concur" "nonetheless" Jesus, do you always talk like a character straight out of Charles Dickens?

"concur" is quite standard vernacular. Not sure what the problem is.
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Greater Cesnica wrote:I will vote 'For' this resolution on my WA just out of spite for the bullshit that TUMS has endured in this thread.
And what bullshit might that be?

The dogpiling of an obvious joke proposal that was spurred on by a conversation in the Cards discord. It's just needlessly toxic.
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Postby Varanius » Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:45 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:The dogpiling of an obvious joke proposal that was spurred on by a conversation in the Cards discord. It's just needlessly toxic.
I’m sorry has the SC’s opinion suddenly turned around on shitty joke proposals in the last few months? People shat on Condemn Osiris too, and at least the author there pointed it out it was a joke themself. I really don’t see what the problem is with criticizing this proposal.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:47 pm

Varanius wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:The dogpiling of an obvious joke proposal that was spurred on by a conversation in the Cards discord. It's just needlessly toxic.
I’m sorry has the SC’s opinion suddenly turned around on shitty joke proposals in the last few months? People shat on Condemn Osiris too, and at least the author there pointed it out it was a joke themself. I really don’t see what the problem is with criticizing this proposal.

Well, I was not one of those folks shitting on Condemn Osiris. Perhaps I'm a minority in that regard.
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Postby Varanius » Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:11 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Varanius wrote: I’m sorry has the SC’s opinion suddenly turned around on shitty joke proposals in the last few months? People shat on Condemn Osiris too, and at least the author there pointed it out it was a joke themself. I really don’t see what the problem is with criticizing this proposal.

Well, I was not one of those folks shitting on Condemn Osiris. Perhaps I'm a minority in that regard.
Fair enough I suppose. I simply think to act as though TUMS has experienced some extreme degree of antagonism unbefitting of the proposal is a bit odd to say the least. I really can’t see any specific harshness or dogpiling in this thread.
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:10 pm

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Postby WayNeacTia » Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:05 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Varanius wrote: And what bullshit might that be?

The dogpiling of an obvious joke proposal that was spurred on by a conversation in the Cards discord. It's just needlessly toxic.

What dogpiling would that be? There was one comment that got smacked by New Vis and that was the sum of it. The author put their fingers in their ears and pressed forward even though they were told it was a terrible idea. If it was just a joke then that would have been fine, everyone could have had their fun and we could have moved on, but it's not. This is a badge hunt and you can tell that with the abysmal quality of the writing. Badge hunters are frowned up and will be called out by anyone who is paying attention. Given the fact the author tried to use the mods to silence any criticism is just the icing on the cake. So if you want to call out toxicity, you can start with the author on this one.
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Postby Refuge Isle » Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:28 pm

I don't think that the term "Badge hunt" can be reasonably applied to this proposal, Wayne.

Notwithstanding that every proposal is a "badge hunt", as a process of actually playing the game to get some kind substantive value or reward out of the soul-crushing work one does on NS, this proposal is more of a meme than playing on a wave of populism to service one's self-interest. The SC has a long history of jokes and meme resolutions (I have waded through the records of all), and the viability of this one, with a cursory glance at TNP and TSP isn't that bad at the moment.

Certainly a better joke than Condemn TCB :lol:

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Postby WayNeacTia » Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:40 pm

Refuge Isle wrote:I don't think that the term "Badge hunt" can be reasonably applied to this proposal, Wayne.

Notwithstanding that every proposal is a "badge hunt", as a process of actually playing the game to get some kind substantive value or reward out of the soul-crushing work one does on NS, this proposal is more of a meme than playing on a wave of populism to service one's self-interest. The SC has a long history of jokes and meme resolutions (I have waded through the records of all), and the viability of this one, with a cursory glance at TNP and TSP isn't that bad at the moment.

Certainly a better joke than Condemn TCB :lol:

Oh it can be and will be called a badge hunt, as that is exactly what this is. This was totally trying to play on populism to service one's self-interest. This is the lowest possible hanging fruit on the tree at the moment, and was grabbed in hopes of scoring an authorship badge and possibly boosting ones Season 3 card value. The author can deny that all they want, but I have witnessed enough badge hunts in my time to spot one lightyears away. Now I will admit this hasn't been taken to Bitley levels yet, but I am not overly optimistic that the author wont try to buy the passage of this. Had the author wrote it and submitted for the lols just to see if it was legal and then withdrew it, things would be fine. But no, the author has full intentions of letting this go to vote to so we can waste three days watching it get slaughtered, or worse seeing it pass and watching the plethora of other badge hunters out there trip all over themselves trying to get a repeal of it passed so they can score an authorship badge on the lowest possible hanging fruit. Now you can call this endeavor whatever you want, but it sure walks and quacks like a duck to me, so I think we can all come to realize exactly what this is.
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:31 am

You missed a good pun for this resolution.

"Noting that Testlandia's flag is a big plus;"
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:52 pm

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Postby Reich Hungary » Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:11 am

This is an attack on democracy, and I will say it in a firm and serious voice: #I Beyond the Wall of Testlandia. We must defend Testland and we are in solidarity with it. I strongly protest. I am voting for. You have to remove this error and vote for it. The New Order of the Ages.

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Postby WayNeacTia » Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:34 am

Not a whole lot of surprise how this one is going to turn out.
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Postby The Notorious Mad Jack » Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:38 am

Whilst this certainly shouldn't pass, the attitude of some people in this topic - most of them TWPers - has been kinda disgusting. Do better.
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