[FAILED] Commend Testlandia

[Pre-Christian Persecuted People]

As there is no evidence that this nation stood up for persecuted people following old religions or even condemned the genocides that happened with them in the past, we vote against this this motion.

[Arpasia]

It's not very good, the points are too few for a condemnation and it's incredibly poorly written, and seems like a badge hunt. And I'm not even in the WA

There is a rule that you can't commend/condemn site admins and mods.

No, mods like Jakker and luna amore have condemnations

Mallorea and Riva included.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

This Proposal Sucks!

True, but it’s getting the treatment a sucky proposal deserves.

[Sedgistan]

There's been too much nastiness from both sides at points in this debate. Dial it back or refrain from posting.

[Cappedore]

I voted for because the author was getting unwarranted smut and frankly doesn't deserve it.

Where?

You come here and you start throwing around unwarranted insults towards the author in question. There's no use playing dumb with me.

At the end of the day, you were hardly criticising the guy. You were being unnecessarily antagonistic from the very beginning. I understand that some people are blunt when it comes to things like these, but a line is drawn between blunt criticism and just downright insults. I will gladly go back and pick out which messages have been completely antagonistic towards the author who is frankly just putting an effort towards an online game, the smut he received was NOT necessary, whether you agree or disagree with this proposal. There are standards and most members should know that by now.

[WayNeacTia]

Where?

You come here and you start throwing around unwarranted insults towards the author in question. There's no use playing dumb with me.

At the end of the day, you were hardly criticising the guy. You were being unnecessarily antagonistic from the very beginning. I understand that some people are blunt when it comes to things like these, but a line is drawn between blunt criticism and just downright insults. I will gladly go back and pick out which messages have been completely antagonistic towards the author who is frankly just putting an effort towards an online game, the smut he received was NOT necessary, whether you agree or disagree with this proposal. There are standards and most members should know that by now.

Be my guest. It isn't going to change anything, nor is it going to magically swing the vote so this passes.

[Cappedore]

You come here and you start throwing around unwarranted insults towards the author in question. There's no use playing dumb with me.

At the end of the day, you were hardly criticising the guy. You were being unnecessarily antagonistic from the very beginning. I understand that some people are blunt when it comes to things like these, but a line is drawn between blunt criticism and just downright insults. I will gladly go back and pick out which messages have been completely antagonistic towards the author who is frankly just putting an effort towards an online game, the smut he received was NOT necessary, whether you agree or disagree with this proposal. There are standards and most members should know that by now.

Be my guest. It isn't going to change anything, nor is it going to magically swing the vote so this passes.

Again, this isn't about swinging the vote. It's about how the author received unwarranted foul behaviour from some of their peers.

[Membatak]

Jesus Christ, the amount of toxicity in this comment section…

[Sedgistan]

Let's reiterate this, already:

There's been too much nastiness from both sides at points in this debate. Dial it back or refrain from posting.

Please return the discussion to the merits of the proposal. There is nothing to gain from continued finger-pointing about who has been unpleasant to who.

[The Free Humans]

"How many nations have a guide to furniture? That alone shows an understanding of the Democratic process, a more authoritarian state might force you to buy their furniture instead of convincing you. An isolationist state might not want you to touch their furniture at all. What this alone tells us is that this is the kind of partner any nation should desire in the World Assembly." -Mistress Amara

[Team Lennox]

You come here and you start throwing around unwarranted insults towards the author in question. There's no use playing dumb with me.

At the end of the day, you were hardly criticising the guy. You were being unnecessarily antagonistic from the very beginning. I understand that some people are blunt when it comes to things like these, but a line is drawn between blunt criticism and just downright insults. I will gladly go back and pick out which messages have been completely antagonistic towards the author who is frankly just putting an effort towards an online game, the smut he received was NOT necessary, whether you agree or disagree with this proposal. There are standards and most members should know that by now.

Be my guest. It isn't going to change anything, nor is it going to magically swing the vote so this passes.

Well Cappedore never actually said that smh...

[Kingdom Of Englands]

Against

[Fachumonn]

I will vote 'For' this resolution on my WA just out of spite for the bullshit that TUMS has endured in this thread.

Same here I would've of voted for (if my region supported it) just because of the backlash.

[Celheberg]

I AM FOR COMMENDING TESTLANDIA

[Tinhampton]

"Commend Testlandia" was defeated 9,458 votes to 2,716. (22.31% support)

For: 2,716: Treadwellia (245), Duby (171), Lesser Velutaria (119), You Should See Me in a Crown (110), TESDAI (102), South Boston Irishmen (45), Boris Cult (34), Particle (33), Noble Titans (31), Lamerdon (27), Orioni 2 (27), Alentejo and Algarve (24), NewTexas (24), Sjevre (24), Tinhampton (21), German Federal Reich (17), Oi Barbaroi (17), Zergadnkastan (15), Greater Cuba (14), Ecclestia (13), J-O-E (13), Miklozia (13), Isaris (12), Ecolaria (12), Taki Calxur (10), Draganisia (10), Seludong (10), Ko-oren (10), TheRuhr (9), Otaku Stratus (9), Orca and Narwhal (9), Echidona (8), The Free Northern Isles (8), Golanchia (8), Olde Towne (7), Pinochet Executionists (7), Atlantian Oceania (7), Imperialist Bonaparte (6), The Soviet state of Svalbard (6), The Scottish Republic (6), Krovnik (6), Omniabstracta (6), Angry Saffron (6), Hetairaea (6), Tianjastan (5), Calamari Lands (5), Zhong-guo (5), Socruell (4), Swideri (4), Sunixia Catinia (4), Willtechia (4), Gaiah (4), The Giantik (4), Greater Zhanland (4), Fooger Booger (4), Jacobopolus (4), Talyang (3), Saint Crusaders (3), Tartaso (3), Montquebec (3), Fritzentein (3), Chiarje (3), Pastries (3), Dagnia (3), Tsaivao (3), Haruhi Japan (3), Littjara (3), Chuliu Emperor (3), The Islands of Europe and the Americas (3), Frontier Isles (3), The Anarchist Federation of Spain (2), The Eurasian SFSR (2), Misted Lake (2), The Ancient World (2), Greater Eireann (2), Islands Of Ventro (2), Mittlemazigste (2), President Pro Tempore (2), Demokratische Volksrepublik Ozeanien (2), The Republic of Abe (2), Sri Lankan Bovina (2), Some People on Planet Arcadia (2), The Awesome Niko islands (2), Nataanland (2), Lower Slobbovia (2), Tomisburg (2), Whitemore (2), Lacmhacarh (2), Uhremberg (2), Suvmia (2), Nisasia (2), Atcquatica (2), Chemgota (2), Oppy Gasai (2), Kriberion (2), Voneisen (2), Mrhallia (2), Nasset (2), and (1,250) individual member nations.

Against: 9,458: Francois Isidore (939), Amerion (676), The Atlae Isles (542), Dilber (497), East Durthang (421), Wischland (332), North East Somerset (247), Primorye Oblast (223), Agalaesia (207), Luna State (173), Thaelle (125), Ruinenlust (118), Brototh (93), ShrewLlamaLand (93), Enlais (64), Josephtan (64), The Salaxalans (64), The Glorious Hypetrain (60), Sylh Alanor (55), Nulkia (55), Mikeswill (45), Brys questions (43), Paleocacher (37), Candensia (35), Hindu Puri (35), New South Arctica (33), Roma Sparta (32), Yodle (32), Karteria (30), Tostandia (26), New Legland (24), Jedinsto (24), Hulldom (21), Volykos (19), Bassiliya (18), Ioavollr (18), Fachumonn (17), Calnodia (16), Cruciland (14), Hajirah (13), Dalek-Empire (13), Baloo Kingdom (13), Gatchina (12), The Stalker (12), Halcyon Nova (12), Sirian (11), Azgoghk (11), Zamastan (11), Conflagration City 5 (11), Yafetistan (11), Candanadium (10), Aftenheim (10), The Traditional States (10), Chodean Kal (9), Vegaga (9), The Lonely Peak of a Forgotten Mountain (9), The Reich of my People (9), Federal republic of Socialsts (9), One Small Island (9), Martinilinian (8), The Voltarum (8), Lurusitania (8), Axorian (8), The Flyin (7), Orennica (7), The 7 Kings (7), Russia Major (7), Brocklandia (7), Norvew (7), Lost Village Mayohiga (7), The Regalian Underland (7), Onionist Randosia (6), Rykkland (6), Libertarian Communist Planets (6), Rogue River (6), Wobbegong (6), Aelythium (6), Lithuanian Ireland (6), Wadelhelpia (5), Lamoni (5), San Lumen (5), Lushie (5), Ench Table (5), Republic of Dixie (5), Friends Having A Great Time (5), FORKTASTICSTAN (5), New Delfos (5), Eastern Carpathian Free States (5), Voxija (5), Ktchenia (5), ColdHeartedBastards (5), Kustonia (5), Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka (5), Yaxopsville (4), The Palentine (4), Socialist Amogus (4), Terminum (4), Chespinton (4), North Power (4), Cavalone (4), Barak Khalad (4), Wabacha (4), Chap Ven (4), Ethwelistan (4), San Teodoro de Haro (4), Smiley Bob (4), Koxor (4), Andia Calla (4), Novum Orientis (4), Reultan (4), New Walaca (4), Achain (3), Catrabania (3), Ben Kenobi (3), Flor-Fina (3), Welstonia (3), LeoBelgikus (3), Kinkerland (3), Islae (3), Fiadostan (3), Kingdom of Derita (3), The Soviet Union Republics (3), Greenkeep (3), Kleinekatzen (3), Madrocea (3), Scorpus (3), Robotox Empire (3), Hax Baba (3), Dragons of Power (3), Dellettia (3), Republic of Washinton (3), Rexcaeli (3), Grand Memeland (3), Vikinstan (3), Border-Albion (3), The Neolithic German Empire (3), Herby (3), Nekomimea (3), Zombiedolphins (3), Matonis (3), Metaphysicus (3), Coronational Chechyans and affiliates (3), Camaordia (2), Tirnot (2), Conollyland (2), Versylle (2), Fsdh E (2), The Pirates of the West (2), Creator Land (2), Heromerland (2), Imperioa (2), North-West Commland (2), Sedgistan (2), The Pop Punk Union (2), Hometania (2), Main (2), Xenohumanity (2), Hakuri (2), Conservativealia (2), United Corporate States (2), Knootoss (2), Molopovia (2), Adeiatic (2), Imperiya Snezhnaya (2), Ravenstan (2), Union of Noovistian (2), Ze Faderland (2), Neim (2), Italian Community (2), Republic of Blank (2), Nopengie (2), Beazlend (2), Copristan (2), Adinesi (2), 1-502nd Airborne Inf (2), Serene Peninsular Workers Republic (2), SherpDaWerp (2), Vipathe (2), Kaija (2), Shnrubton (2), Imperial Felchah (2), Il Osoris (2), Melanocytes (2), Germanastan (2), The Hazar Amisnery (2), Forn Treixo (2), Erianu (2), Vetoland (2), Snowy Town Island (2), Hanoten (2), Erloane (2), Yufjanciegglandraxei (2), Boarder Princes (2), Duhhhmurica (2), Erisure (2), Real Gamers (2), Horden (2), Uralom (2), Hoshido and Nohr (2), Zfhmpnaf (2), Romulus III (2), Qudrath (2), Estamonia (2), Zachtia (2), Arkti (2), Gonzlandia (2), Lehqhbraot (2), Chartania (2), Saganye (2), Zarnicovia nova (2), Calcaterra (2), United Lammunist Republic (2), Imren (2), New Mauretania (2), FarmerGroot (2), Ashaie (2), Santa Monica Order (2), Wakanda Reborn (2), and (3,155) individual member nations.

[Gorundu]

I encourage some people in this thread to read and reflect on this proverb: "If you don't have something nice to say, don't say it at all."

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

I encourage some people in this thread to read and reflect on this proverb: "If you don't have something nice to say, don't say it at all."

Never really had much time for proverbs.

[Cappedore]

My sincerest apologies to TUMS who faced a horrific amount of toxicity - even from the older nations - in this thread. This whole thing could’ve been done without all the unwarranted bullshit.

[Sedgistan]

Now that the voting is over:

My sincerest apologies to TUMS who faced a horrific amount of toxicity - even from the older nations - in this thread. This whole thing could’ve been done without all the unwarranted bullshit.

Aside from the one person who got warned for flamebaiting, the feedback that The Unified Missourtama States received was not "toxic"; it was feedback on improving the proposal, and expressions of disapproval on a poor quality proposal being submitted without any drafting. When an author responds to that with sarky comments like "Great! I love you!", and claiming pride in their proposal (that they're only putting to vote as an experiment/bet) because "it is not total crap", it's not surprising that SCers are not impressed with their conduct. It was a waste of 4 days of voting time, at a moment when there is actually a queue of decent proposal waiting to be voted on. It didn't even have the defence that it was a funny joke proposal.

Aside from the flamebaiting, the debate in this thread was at a decent level until people started coming in complaining about the manner of criticism the author was receiving, at which point yes, it did turn unpleasant. But the narrative you and others are pushing that the SCers giving honest feedback on TUMS's timewasting is "toxic" is false.

I encourage some people in this thread to read and reflect on this proverb: "If you don't have something nice to say, don't say it at all."

Bad advice. It's not nice to be told that your proposal is poor quality, undeserved or a waste of time, but if it is, the author should be told.

The SC does sometimes get heated, and there are some regulars (and irregulars) who can be overly snarky in their commentary at times. But there was none of that on show when people started jumping into the thread complaining about TUMS's treatment.

[Wallenburg]

I encourage some people in this thread to read and reflect on this proverb: "If you don't have something nice to say, don't say it at all."

That's always been a foolish saying, used to hide from criticism more often than mean-spiritedness. This was a really bad resolution and it seems that the votes came down with that opinion.

[The Unified Missourtama States]

This was a really bad resolution and it seems that the votes came down with that opinion.

Never was resolved as it failed at vote, it was and is a proposal.

[Refuge Isle]

This was a really bad resolution and it seems that the votes came down with that opinion.

Never was resolved as it failed at vote, it was and is a proposal.

This is not typically the interpretation. The voting page introduces these as "Resolution At Vote". A proposal is the stage of approval solicitation. When a proposal hits the voting floor, it is a resolution at that point.

This was a resolution that was failed.

[Bears Armed]

Never was resolved as it failed at vote, it was and is a proposal.

This is not typically the interpretation. The voting page introduces these as "Resolution At Vote". A proposal is the stage of approval solicitation. When a proposal hits the voting floor, it is a resolution at that point.

This was a resolution that was failed.

But it doesn't get a number like the passed Resolutions.