[DEFEATED] Corporal Punishment Ban

[Greater Cesnica]

"Solitary? That's curious. I wrote a resolution that all but prohibits it."

Eh, our delegation wishes to ask but a simple question: will this soon-to-be resolution outlaw corporate punishment when it’s done with the consent of the punished? You see- in our colonial prisons we, sometimes, offer prisoners a chance not to go to solitary for misconduct, instead they either have to do some additional work or suffer from corporal punishment. Don’t worry- the methods are completely harmless to ones physical health though...

"I get the impression that the misconduct that is being referred to by the delegation from Lake Strolistandiler does not usually fall under the narrow exemptions under which solitary confinement could be legally applied."

[South Americanastan]

"I get the impression that the misconduct that is being referred to by the delegation from Lake Strolistandiler does not usually fall under the narrow exemptions under which solitary confinement could be legally applied."

Never said they were legally doing it, just said they were doing it.

[Greater Cesnica]

"I get the impression that the misconduct that is being referred to by the delegation from Lake Strolistandiler does not usually fall under the narrow exemptions under which solitary confinement could be legally applied."

Never said they were legally doing it, just said they were doing it.

"Yes, I was referring to that." McCooley shakes his head. "... This Ambassador of L.S does an excellent job of lowering the already low international reputation of their nation."

[Ardiveds]

Never said they were legally doing it, just said they were doing it.

"Yes, I was referring to that." McCooley shakes his head. "... This Ambassador of L.S does an excellent job of lowering the already low international reputation of their nation."

"Ambassador, they say you are what you eat. That seems to be somewhat true for Laka Strolistandiler Diplomats."

[Great Algerstonia]

Admiral-Ambassador Alec Ainsworth, a glorious war hero and patriotic admiral of our almighty country, is taking a well-deserved break participating in a martial arts competition, and is thus too busy to let out a statement regarding this degenerate lunacy that obliterates Algerstonen culture and efficiency in one swing, but let it be known that the globalists in the elitist chamber of the Oppressive World Assembly have once again sought to impose their iron fist over sovereign states around the world! I urge all common nations who value their state sovereignty to vote AGAINST this abomination!

~Kurt Feinheld News Corporation, delivering a last-minute statement in replacement of Ainsworth.

[Laka Strolistandiler]

Well, people have their interests. But in all seriousness, I could see inmates deciding to undergo Corporal Punishment to avoid solitary confinement, considering how crappy it usually is.

"Solitary? That's curious. I wrote a resolution that all but prohibits it."

OOC: Well, I couldn’t find this one. Probably because of retarded search engine that doesn’t return this resolution when I searched “solitary”. My bad, fellows, my bad. Would you kindly ignore this little misunderstanding?
Obraztsova: Eh, the colonies are separate states that aren’t members of the WA. We WERE considering to implement them as the members of Laka Strolistandiler and as such consulted on the matter. Guess we’re going to have second thoughts on this decision! Furthermore, in our case, solitary does not necessarily mean “full deprivation of contact” as stated in the resolution you’ve linked,- with other prisoners- in Lakan prisons there are contacts, but the amount and the duration of them is extremely limited.

[Laka Strolistandiler]

Never said they were legally doing it, just said they were doing it.

"Yes, I was referring to that." McCooley shakes his head. "... This Ambassador of L.S does an excellent job of lowering the already low international reputation of their nation."

Who cares? It’s not like anyone would even consider liking us, taking into consideration our ideology and policial alignments of leaders- so why should we bother? Maybe, after Lavinia will die and if she’ll be replaced by a more liberal-leaning SRO someone could consider our state being something other than the axis of evil, but as she’s, unfortunately, still alive and kicking, and that her official replacement is even worse than Lavinia in terms of political views and party alignment this is unlikely.

[Greater Cesnica]

Admiral-Ambassador Alec Ainsworth, a glorious war hero and patriotic admiral of our almighty country, is taking a well-deserved break participating in a martial arts competition, and is thus too busy to let out a statement regarding this degenerate lunacy that obliterates Algerstonen culture and efficiency in one swing, but let it be known that the globalists in the elitist chamber of the Oppressive World Assembly have once again sought to impose their iron fist over sovereign states around the world! I urge all common nations who value their state sovereignty to vote AGAINST this abomination!

~Kurt Feinheld News Corporation, delivering a last-minute statement in replacement of Ainsworth.

McCooley chuckles. "Then why not withdraw from the World Assembly?"

[Laka Strolistandiler]

McCooley chuckles. "Then why not withdraw from the World Assembly?"

Obraztsova, in a somewhat comical voice: Perhaps, just as my predecessor, they believe that they can handle the punishments?

[Greater Cesnica]

McCooley chuckles. "Then why not withdraw from the World Assembly?"

Obraztsova, in a somewhat comical voice: Perhaps, just as my predecessor, they believe that they can handle the punishments?

McCooley raises an eyebrow. "Unlikely, considering space-faring empires have been humbled by such sanctions."

[Laka Strolistandiler]

Obraztsova, in a somewhat comical voice: Perhaps, just as my predecessor, they believe that they can handle the punishments?

McCooley raises an eyebrow. "Unlikely, considering space-faring empires have been humbled by such sanctions."

Trust me, human idiocy knows little to no limits. I know, because my predecessor was a textbook example of this... Also, I could probably call our leader a retard as well, while we’re at it...

[Great Algerstonia]

Admiral-Ambassador Alec Ainsworth, a glorious war hero and patriotic admiral of our almighty country, is taking a well-deserved break participating in a martial arts competition, and is thus too busy to let out a statement regarding this degenerate lunacy that obliterates Algerstonen culture and efficiency in one swing, but let it be known that the globalists in the elitist chamber of the Oppressive World Assembly have once again sought to impose their iron fist over sovereign states around the world! I urge all common nations who value their state sovereignty to vote AGAINST this abomination!

~Kurt Feinheld News Corporation, delivering a last-minute statement in replacement of Ainsworth.

McCooley chuckles. "Then why not withdraw from the World Assembly?"

A rather annoyed Ainsworth steps in. "It's just the damn corporations playing games again. Whilst I vehemently oppose this proposal, the corporations intentionally made that message propagandistic to harm Algerstonen cooperation in the World Assembly..."

[Greater Cesnica]

McCooley chuckles. "Then why not withdraw from the World Assembly?"

A rather annoyed Ainsworth steps in. "It's just the damn corporations playing games again. Whilst I vehemently oppose this proposal, the corporations intentionally made that message propagandistic to harm Algerstonen cooperation in the World Assembly..."

"Well, fair."

[Scalizagasti]

The United Regions Alliance recommends that nations vote for this resolution. https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1553616

[The Hazar Amisnery]

You cant just ban something like that! What about nations that rely on physical torture as a means to keep down crime rates? Some nations cant afford prisons and proper police forces.

[Tinhampton]

...What about nations that rely on physical torture as a means to keep down crime rates?...

Torture is illegal.

[Wallenburg]

You cant just ban something like that! What about nations that rely on physical torture as a means to keep down crime rates? Some nations cant afford prisons and proper police forces.

The age of men is over, the time of the orc has come.

[Berlin and Hanover]

I would just like to address the hypocrisy in this resolution at vote, as the author of this resolution has Corporal Punishment as a national policy

[Laka Strolistandiler]

Eh, our position on the matter stays- we oppose it because of our wish for continual support of Lavinia’s authoritarian policies which may one day require a use of corporate punishment,

[Nouvelle Provence]

Good day fellow Ambassadors,

His Excellency the Governor of Nouvelle Provence has given great thought to the issue at hand in this debate, yet he is still unsure how to treat the matter. It would appear to him that this resolution, as observed by its content, would only pertain to the corporal punishment of children, yet he is unsure whether a ban on corporal punishment as presented by this resolution would limit itself only to children, or would extend as far as all lawful citizens of his administered territories.

His Excellency, being a good Catholic, would whole-heartedly support any piece of legislation to better the condition of the younger ones, however he would not wish to do away with corporal punishments on the adults. His Excellency would like to point out that, as a subject of Sa Majesté King Louis XIV, his naval assets, granted by Sa Majesté, abide by the maritime laws of France which prescribe the use of corporal punishments on disorderly and insubordinate sailors. Should the resolution make it impossible to maintain these naval laws and traditions, His Excellency could see a deterioration of the quality of his crews, jeopardising the hard work invested in trade protection and coastal defences of the colony.

Thusly, before signing the edict in His Excellency's name to cast a vote on the matter at the World Assembly, the Governor would like to know if this resolution pertains solely to the treatment of children, or if it extends to any of his subjects.

With my most distinguished salutations,

Vive le Roi,

Monsieur l'Ambassadeur de Nouvelle Provence

[Azzabajan]

I must say the banni g of corporal punishments is a bit far, considering it has been used by my people for generations but I do recognise the need to limit the punishment.

[CoraSpia]

"Though regretting the exceptions included in this proposal, the Haven has voted to support it."

[Kenmoria]

“The proposal has quite cleverly abolished corporal punishment in all cases, including as a judicial punishment for adults, despite mentioning only children in the preamble and several of the clauses. This disconnect between the preamble and the operative clauses is not ideal, but it is not a major error nor is it something which impairs the legislative efficacy of the proposal. Therefore, the Kenmoria WA Mission will be voting in favour of this piece of legislation.”

[Daarwyrth]

Dame Maria vyn Nysen, WA Representative of Daarwyrth: "I encourage all delegations of member nations to vote 'for' on this proposal. The resolution bans a practice that has no place in a civilised and modern society. Therefore, I implore all member nations to give hear to this call, and ensure the passage of this resolution proposal."

[The Palentine]

This resolution make me think sombody got their knuckles rapped by a Nun's ruler one time too many in Catholic School. Good thing they never attended my school. One of the Nuns there threw an eraser at the kid acting up. Sister Cyril could throw a Fastball, Curve, and Slider and hit with pinpoint accuracy even when she wasn't looking. She'd call out the person's name, knowing they had no chance to evade, then she'd throw the eraser, usually hitting the perp on the side of the head.

Absolutely opposed to this one.
Excelsior,
Sen Horatio Sulla