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by Pan-Asiatic States » Tue May 25, 2021 9:42 am
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by Daarwyrth » Tue May 25, 2021 10:22 am
Pan-Asiatic States wrote:The Pan-Asiatic States believes that corporal punishment, especially against those who are a drain on society and criminals, is an effective means of administering reform. We do not sanction this proposed resolution.
by Pan-Asiatic States » Tue May 25, 2021 10:35 am
Daarwyrth wrote:Pan-Asiatic States wrote:The Pan-Asiatic States believes that corporal punishment, especially against those who are a drain on society and criminals, is an effective means of administering reform. We do not sanction this proposed resolution.
Vyn Nysen: "If only your sanctioning actually meant something, other than an empty gesture of disapproval. Corporal punishment has never been, nor will ever be an effective method of enforcing reform. It inspires only resentment which is exactly the opposite of what one would want to entice, namely reform. Force is the tool of those who lack the strength to convince, Ambassador."
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by Daarwyrth » Tue May 25, 2021 10:41 am
Pan-Asiatic States wrote:Daarwyrth wrote:Vyn Nysen: "If only your sanctioning actually meant something, other than an empty gesture of disapproval. Corporal punishment has never been, nor will ever be an effective method of enforcing reform. It inspires only resentment which is exactly the opposite of what one would want to entice, namely reform. Force is the tool of those who lack the strength to convince, Ambassador."
Quite the contrary, Your Excellency. It instills fear of government among the people, and that is much more convincing than any platitude we could offer—not because we lack such skills to do so, but because for many it is the only language they speak. After all, let's not forget, law-abiding citizens have nothing to fear of this policy. Only dangerous psychopaths and criminals, true drains on society, should rightfully fear corporal punishment. And in our country, they do.
by Pan-Asiatic States » Tue May 25, 2021 10:45 am
Daarwyrth wrote:Pan-Asiatic States wrote:
Quite the contrary, Your Excellency. It instills fear of government among the people, and that is much more convincing than any platitude we could offer—not because we lack such skills to do so, but because for many it is the only language they speak. After all, let's not forget, law-abiding citizens have nothing to fear of this policy. Only dangerous psychopaths and criminals, true drains on society, should rightfully fear corporal punishment. And in our country, they do.
Vyn Nysen: "Fate willing your citizens won't have to fear such for long. If this resolution passes, your nation will be forced to comply, should you choose to remain in the World Assembly."
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by Daarwyrth » Tue May 25, 2021 10:51 am
Pan-Asiatic States wrote:Daarwyrth wrote:Vyn Nysen: "Fate willing your citizens won't have to fear such for long. If this resolution passes, your nation will be forced to comply, should you choose to remain in the World Assembly."
With all due respect, Your Excellency, we do not endow criminals with the same rights and privileges as that of our citizens. It is abhorrent that the instillment of fright among violators of the law is even considered a contentious political opinion in this assembly.
by Pan-Asiatic States » Tue May 25, 2021 11:22 am
Daarwyrth wrote:Pan-Asiatic States wrote:
With all due respect, Your Excellency, we do not endow criminals with the same rights and privileges as that of our citizens. It is abhorrent that the instillment of fright among violators of the law is even considered a contentious political opinion in this assembly.
Vyn Nysen: "You cannot condemn other nations for being more progressive in their thinking than you are, Ambassador. Such a condemnation only reflects badly on your nation for its lack of broad perspectives, not the rest of this international community."
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by Tinhampton » Tue May 25, 2021 11:55 am
by Daarwyrth » Tue May 25, 2021 12:00 pm
Pan-Asiatic States wrote:Daarwyrth wrote:Vyn Nysen: "You cannot condemn other nations for being more progressive in their thinking than you are, Ambassador. Such a condemnation only reflects badly on your nation for its lack of broad perspectives, not the rest of this international community."
Such a condemnation reflects only that we value the spirit of national stability, peace, and the rule of law in our country. If these are not things that the state you represent upholds, then perhaps your people should look to other states for leadership. Indeed, who can argue against such ideals?
by Pan-Asiatic States » Tue May 25, 2021 5:07 pm
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by Tinhampton » Tue May 25, 2021 6:14 pm
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by Daarwyrth » Wed May 26, 2021 9:04 am
Tinhampton wrote:And we are Proposal-A-Go-Go, of course
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by Pan-Asiatic States » Wed May 26, 2021 9:32 pm
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by Waldenes » Thu May 27, 2021 2:27 pm
Pan-Asiatic States wrote:The Pan-Asiatic States laments the Corporal Punishment Ban proposal reaching quorum, and hopes that the sovereignty-loving peoples of the World Assembly will stand together in solidarity to oppose it.
by Laka Strolistandiler » Thu May 27, 2021 4:18 pm
I reserve the right to /stillme any one-liners if my post is at least two lines long
by Tinhampton » Thu May 27, 2021 4:54 pm
Gruenberg wrote:Is there some competition to see who can have the most obnoxious thread tags?
by Greater Cesnica » Thu May 27, 2021 6:38 pm
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by South Americanastan » Thu May 27, 2021 6:43 pm
by Greater Cesnica » Thu May 27, 2021 6:44 pm
South Americanastan wrote:Tinhampton wrote:Sadly - or perhaps happily - not
RE LS: I don't see the point in consensual corporal punishment =P
Well, people have their interests. But in all seriousness, I could see inmates deciding to undergo Corporal Punishment to avoid solitary confinement, considering how crappy it usually is.
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San Lumen wrote:You are ridiculous.George Orwell wrote:“That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there.”
by South Americanastan » Thu May 27, 2021 6:47 pm
Greater Cesnica wrote:South Americanastan wrote:Well, people have their interests. But in all seriousness, I could see inmates deciding to undergo Corporal Punishment to avoid solitary confinement, considering how crappy it usually is.
"Solitary? That's curious. I wrote a resolution that all but prohibits it."
Laka Strolistandiler wrote:Eh, our delegation wishes to ask but a simple question: will this soon-to-be resolution outlaw corporate punishment when it’s done with the consent of the punished? You see- in our colonial prisons we, sometimes, offer prisoners a chance not to go to solitary for misconduct, instead they either have to do some additional work or suffer from corporal punishment. Don’t worry- the methods are completely harmless to ones physical health though...
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