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Imperium Anglorum wrote:A protocol is an supplement, addendum, or amendment to a preexisting treaty. Why are you calling it 'Volcanic Activity Protocol'?

Minskiev wrote:A volcano is a vent in the earth's surface. Occasionally it erupts from stress in the earth.

Outer Sparta wrote:Against Volcanic Activity? That just sounds weird like "we're against volcanic activity! Mother Nature must stop volcanoing!" Why not rename it to something else? At least Volcanic Activity Protocol makes more sense than this for a title.

OOC: Sorry I'm late with these, life keeps throwing stuff at me that's more important than NationStates.

OOC: I'm... not entirely sure what section 3(c) is supposed to mean. Does it mean member nations are expected to decide for themselves which hazards to educate about? The wording and structure of the sentence seem to indicate that, but it's not very clear.

As to the title, I agree with Outer Sparta. Perhaps "Protection From Volcanic Activity" or "Volcanic Activity Compact" would be a more accurate title.

Sierra Lyricalia wrote:Ara's list of "volcanoes" should provoke some thought, however.

I question the utility of building infrastructure to "combat volcanic activity" in any but the most particular cases of predictable, slow lava (e.g. let's build some cheapish walls or channels to save these poorly placed towns in Hawaii). Most cases of volcanoes being destructive require the reactive use of emergency vehicles and earth-moving equipment - post-hoc mobility, not pre-fabricated infrastructure - or else are effectively unfightable (e.g. Eyjafjallajokul ash causing flight disruptions).

Minskiev wrote:

Sierra Lyricalia wrote:Ara's list of "volcanoes" should provoke some thought, however.

Yes. Perhaps I'll define a volcano and clarify that it erupts magma.

Wallenburg wrote:

Minskiev wrote:Yes. Perhaps I'll define a volcano and clarify that it erupts magma.

Magmatic extrusive is called lava. Also, I'm fairly certain most volcanoes do not produce magma, at least not regularly. Ash and volcanic gas are more common products. Volcanoes also eject solid rock of fairly considerable size.

Minskiev wrote:Fixed, I hope.

Araraukar wrote:

Minskiev wrote:Fixed, I hope.

OOC: My list of volcanoes still applies, and earthquakes still don't apply. So, um, likely not as fixed as you'd like.

Wallenburg wrote:

Minskiev wrote:Yes. Perhaps I'll define a volcano and clarify that it erupts magma.

Magmatic extrusive is called lava. Also, I'm fairly certain most volcanoes do not produce magma, at least not regularly. Ash and volcanic gas are more common products. Volcanoes also eject solid rock of fairly considerable size.

South St Maarten wrote:

Wallenburg wrote:Magmatic extrusive is called lava. Also, I'm fairly certain most volcanoes do not produce magma, at least not regularly. Ash and volcanic gas are more common products. Volcanoes also eject solid rock of fairly considerable size.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly certain that the molten rock below the surface is magma, but the magmatic extrusive, as you said, is called lava. So you could technically say it produces magma but such magma would only leave the volcano as lava. Or at least that is what I remember from Earth Science 5 years ago :-þ

Araraukar wrote:OOC: I will try to remember to help you with this in a couple of hours. It's currently a mess, really. But few messes are so bad they can't be cleaned up!

Minskiev wrote:

Araraukar wrote:OOC: I will try to remember to help you with this in a couple of hours. It's currently a mess, really. But few messes are so bad they can't be cleaned up!

A couple of hours eh?

Ardiveds wrote:

Minskiev wrote:A couple of hours eh?

OOC: Time is convoluted in Finland

Araraukar wrote:

Ardiveds wrote:OOC: Time is convoluted in Finland

OOC: Guess I just dreamed posting my apology here...

As my siggy says, I've had to cope with worsening health issues recently, including not just digestion problems (pains, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, constipation, on bad days all of those together to the point where I am left unable to do much more than lay curled up on bathroom floor as I doubt being able to make it from my bed to toilet in time, or sitting on the toilet while puking into a bucket. I have in the past ended up in the hospital to get IV fluids and nutrients when I was unable to even drink water for days.

Currently one of the suspects behind at least some of these symptoms is celiac's disease, but to test for that, I need to eat a lot of gluten-containing foods, which of course worsens the symptoms and makes them more frequent. Writing this, I last ate a proper meal on last Friday, my stomach doesn't tolerate more than one or two bread slices at a time. Pickles help keep the nausea away most of the time. The feeling of a sideways cactus traveling through my small intestine, the constant thirst (water doesn't stay in my body for long) and in general feeling as energetic as a wet towel, means I haven't really been able to concentrate on NS much.

At least the chest pains haven't been that bad this past week.

I will get back to you as soon as I can.

Araraukar wrote:

Ardiveds wrote:OOC: Time is convoluted in Finland

OOC: Guess I just dreamed posting my apology here...

As my siggy says, I've had to cope with worsening health issues recently, including not just digestion problems (pains, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, constipation, on bad days all of those together to the point where I am left unable to do much more than lay curled up on bathroom floor as I doubt being able to make it from my bed to toilet in time, or sitting on the toilet while puking into a bucket. I have in the past ended up in the hospital to get IV fluids and nutrients when I was unable to even drink water for days.

Currently one of the suspects behind at least some of these symptoms is celiac's disease, but to test for that, I need to eat a lot of gluten-containing foods, which of course worsens the symptoms and makes them more frequent. Writing this, I last ate a proper meal on last Friday, my stomach doesn't tolerate more than one or two bread slices at a time. Pickles help keep the nausea away most of the time. The feeling of a sideways cactus traveling through my small intestine, the constant thirst (water doesn't stay in my body for long) and in general feeling as energetic as a wet towel, means I haven't really been able to concentrate on NS much.

At least the chest pains haven't been that bad this past week.

I will get back to you as soon as I can.

Volcanic Activity Action Plan
Title change is needed because the previous ones didn't seem to have much anything to do with what you wanted to make of this, but this is just a stand-in, kind of a jokey one Though actually used in the rewrite (once I get it written).

Category: Regulation
Area of Effect: Safety

The World Assembly,

Mindful that volcanic activity, even of disastrous proportions, is largely unpreventable and often only partially predictable,

Also aware of there being limited options of combatting an active volcano or the hazards created by it,

Granting that disaster preparedness in general is already required by a previously passed resolution,

Mortified that the previous resolution does nothing to even encourage cooperation between member nations when it comes to handling disasters like volcanic eruptions, or even informing the citizens of the nation in which the eruption happens,

Attempting to lay down the ground rules for an action plan during volcanic activity, to make cooperation between all those affected by a specific volcanic event easier and faster, and to cut down unnecessary bureaucracy in the hour of need,

Ok so I had a proper look-see through #105, and it has the committee operating early warning systems and such, but everything seems to be going through the committee, no nation-to-nation cooperation stuff at all. So, rewritten properly, this would indeed be expanding on the general stuff laid out by the previous resolution and thus not duplication. Which I had serious doubts about before.

The new language of the preamble is a bit fluffy, but it's a work in process. Mainly it's meant to specify the new direction I intended to take with the rewrite, and also explain how this is NOT just duplication of the previous resolution. Also, MAGMA was easier to spell than VOLCANO or derivative thereof. (Look at the first letter of each preamble clause.)

Hereby,

1. Defines, for the purposes of this resolution, a "volcanic hazard" as any serious hazard to people or infrastructure caused directly by volcanic activity, including but not limited to airborne volcanic ash, toxic gas eruptions and lava flows,
Really tempted to add a "Does not define "volcano", because those who do not know what a volcano is, do not need to worry about them", but while that would be funny to me, it would be a bit out of place in a resolution. Humour is not entirely unknown in resolutions, however, so up to you if you want it anyway. Make it the new clause 2 in that case.

2. Mandates that member nations that in part or in whole lie in volcanically active areas create a Volcanic Activity Action Plan, which contains, at minimum [And this is where my brain gave me the 5 minute notice of imminent shut-down. Also, direct shout-out to current proposal name, but using or not using it is your choice, later.]