Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:32 pmWe’re against it, inmates should be disallowed the right to vote because they’re in prison.
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[PASSED] Repeal GA#419 "Voting Equality for Freed Inmates"
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:32 pmPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:58 amI rise to ask my good colleague from Tinhampton, Is there a replacement draft for GA 419 at this time?
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:20 amPhilimbesi wrote:I rise to ask my good colleague from Tinhampton, Is there a replacement draft for GA 419 at this time?
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:51 amI thank my honorable colleague from Honeydewistania for their assistance in finding what was clearly below my nose the entire time.
My honored colleagues I rise to voice the USP's opposition to this measure and cast our vote AGAINST this repeal. The USP takes great pains to ensure that all citizens have the right to participate in its democratic practices, and a large portion of incarcerated citizens do have that right. However it is strongly felt that commission of certain crimes, warrant its loss. While we would wholeheartedly support a measure to ensure that released individuals have the right to enfranchisement, the currently replacement is seeking to allow too much to those who have already shown that protecting the rights of other citizens is not important to them.
We are better off with GA 419 as is.
Nigel S Yolkin
USP Ambassador to the WA.
My honored colleagues I rise to voice the USP's opposition to this measure and cast our vote AGAINST this repeal. The USP takes great pains to ensure that all citizens have the right to participate in its democratic practices, and a large portion of incarcerated citizens do have that right. However it is strongly felt that commission of certain crimes, warrant its loss. While we would wholeheartedly support a measure to ensure that released individuals have the right to enfranchisement, the currently replacement is seeking to allow too much to those who have already shown that protecting the rights of other citizens is not important to them.
We are better off with GA 419 as is.
Nigel S Yolkin
USP Ambassador to the WA.
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:22 pm"APH will naturally be supporting this repeal but we oppose any replacement. Since voting is prohibited in APH, the resolution never really affected us."
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:36 pmAs always, our region's Delegate cast their 203 votes in accordance with the view of the majority of regional citizens and WA members that voiced an opinion on the resolution.
[Lord] Michael Evif
Goobergunchian WA Ambassador
Citizen of the Rejected Realms
Absolutely Unrealistic
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:49 pmJust unrealistic that a WA can override each individual nation's voting policies. Ruins the gameplay for nations who want to be authoritarian or be a dictatorship.
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:41 pmImperial Kriegsland wrote:Just unrealistic that a WA can override each individual nation's voting policies. Ruins the gameplay for nations who want to be authoritarian or be a dictatorship.
The repeal at vote can only repeal. It cannot "override [a] nation's voting policies."
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:00 pmGoobergunchia wrote:Illu-chi wrote:I have, but sadly some of the bigger delegates have switched their vote from a against vote to a for vote(ex:chimes).
As always, our region's Delegate cast their 203 votes in accordance with the view of the majority of regional citizens and WA members that voiced an opinion on the resolution.
[Lord] Michael Evif
Goobergunchian WA Ambassador
Citizen of the Rejected Realms
I know. I used to be in the rejected realms.
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:12 pmTinhampton, you say that but you have already made another proposal which would force nations to give serial killers and other dangerous people the ability to vote! The only reason you are making that proposal is because you realize that in order to turn nations communist you must get voters who don't respect any of the laws of the nation so they would be too happy to vote for a party who would end democracy, capitalism, and freedom since they obviously don't support or respect any of the laws or morals in the nation!
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:23 pmIllu-chi wrote:Tinhampton wrote:The repeal at vote can only repeal. It cannot "override [a] nation's voting policies."
Tinhampton, you say that but you have already made another proposal which would force nations to give serial killers and other dangerous people the ability to vote! The only reason you are making that proposal is because you realize that in order to turn nations communist you must get voters who don't respect any of the laws of the nation so they would be too happy to vote for a party who would end democracy, capitalism, and freedom since they obviously don't support or respect any of the laws or morals in the nation!
Exactly ! I am fascist nation and Anti-communist and the only reason Tim made this repeal is to get it passed and make another proposal that makes A requirement to let criminals of all sorts gain voting rights and now do you know that won’t abuse it ? VOTE AGAINST.
Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:22 amRepeal "Voting Equality for Freed Inmates" was passed 8,884 votes to 5,602.