NATION

PASSWORD

[DEFEATED] Condemn The Communist Bloc

A carefully preserved record of the most notable World Assembly debates.

Advertisement

Remove ads

User avatar
Goraria
Diplomat
 
Posts: 716
Founded: Sep 17, 2020
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Goraria » Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:25 pm

Kazakhstan 3 wrote:Galantius 3 you are clearly a
Communist in disguise. If you don’t support my bill you support communism. Just like you said their are only two options. Either you are a communist or a buffoon. My proposal is perfect.

Not everyone that voted against your proposal is a communist. There’s literally communist nations that voted for your proposal just for fun and just for the memes. Btw please just accept the criticism and well actually fix your proposal. Wait can you edit a proposal while it’s at vote?
WIP Overview 8 value thing LeftValue RightValues very biased political compass
NS Backrooms Wayback Machine
NS stats shall be struck out null and void.
(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(") This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your signature to help him destroy China.
A class 1.33 based on this index and a power comparator of 13.71 in this index.
You might find me in forum 7.
He/Him

Ninja’d NS Neighborhood
News: A man has fallen into a river in lego city start by building the rescue helicopter. I am of goods at spellings and of grammer. NSstats is cringe.

User avatar
Jedinsto
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1196
Founded: Nov 12, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Jedinsto » Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:27 pm

Goraria wrote:
Kazakhstan 3 wrote:Galantius 3 you are clearly a
Communist in disguise. If you don’t support my bill you support communism. Just like you said their are only two options. Either you are a communist or a buffoon. My proposal is perfect.

Not everyone that voted against your proposal is a communist. There’s literally communist nations that voted for your proposal just for fun and just for the memes. Btw please just accept the criticism and well actually fix your proposal. Wait can you edit a proposal while it’s at vote?

No, you can't edit after a submission. I believe you can request it is removed from the floor, even if it is at vote. If it's on the proposal board, you can simply delete it. But to answer your question, no you can't edit after submission.

User avatar
United States of Americanas
Envoy
 
Posts: 328
Founded: Jan 23, 2017
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby United States of Americanas » Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:34 pm

The SC is a badge hunters dream with a loose floor. A resounding no vote from here and I hope everyone else rejects this clear badgehunt. This doesn’t even format its self as a SC resolution. Who let this come to the floor?
Political Compass as of Jul 17 2022

Economic Left/Right: -7.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.15



Damn right I’m a liberal democratic socialist. I sit in the ranks of Caroline Lucas

User avatar
Goraria
Diplomat
 
Posts: 716
Founded: Sep 17, 2020
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Goraria » Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:36 pm

Jedinsto wrote:
Goraria wrote:Not everyone that voted against your proposal is a communist. There’s literally communist nations that voted for your proposal just for fun and just for the memes. Btw please just accept the criticism and well actually fix your proposal. Wait can you edit a proposal while it’s at vote?

No, you can't edit after a submission. I believe you can request it is removed from the floor, even if it is at vote. If it's on the proposal board, you can simply delete it. But to answer your question, no you can't edit after submission.

Oh that’s a bummer.
WIP Overview 8 value thing LeftValue RightValues very biased political compass
NS Backrooms Wayback Machine
NS stats shall be struck out null and void.
(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(") This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your signature to help him destroy China.
A class 1.33 based on this index and a power comparator of 13.71 in this index.
You might find me in forum 7.
He/Him

Ninja’d NS Neighborhood
News: A man has fallen into a river in lego city start by building the rescue helicopter. I am of goods at spellings and of grammer. NSstats is cringe.

User avatar
Kazuma Akasun
Civil Servant
 
Posts: 7
Founded: Jan 09, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby Kazuma Akasun » Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:49 pm

Kazakhstan 3 wrote:Galantius 3 you are clearly a
Communist in disguise. If you don’t support my bill you support communism. Just like you said their are only two options. Either you are a communist or a buffoon. My proposal is perfect.



I can't even begin to fathom the number of things wrong with this statement... or where to begin... even with my reputation, I wouldn't be proud of this. The exact opposite, actually. Regardless, no proposal is perfect. There is always something more that can be done. As for the content of the proposal itself, I find that you gave no factual evidence or proof to support your claim. You gave the stereotypical anti-communist speech, without giving any examples of these alleged wrongdoings. You claim that they "decrease civil liberties" and "trap citizens within their horrifying walls", and yet you give no proof to back up these accusations. There's a reason these types of proposals don't make it past the vote, and it's' because they're very, very hard to defend with IC examples, especially ones that attack a political viewpoint (with the exception of fascism). The WA makes a point to separate itself from the domestic affairs of its member nations when it comes to proposals, something that your proposal clearly disregards.

Note that this statement comes from a staunch centrist. And on top of that, you managed to get me, a person currently hospitalized for anemia caused by vitamin deficiency, to address this, from my hospital bed. That's saying something.
Last edited by Kazuma Akasun on Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:04 pm, edited 3 times in total.

User avatar
Reploid Productions
Director of Moderation
 
Posts: 30511
Founded: Antiquity
Democratic Socialists

Postby Reploid Productions » Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:51 pm

Kazakhstan 3 wrote: Either you are a communist or a buffoon.

*sigh* Guess you won't be around to post about the end of the vote.

*** Kazakhstan 3, 3-day ban for flaming. *** I strongly urge you to review the site rules, and also recommend not modelling your conduct after Donald Trump. It's been stated many times in the past 5 years that were he a Nationstates user, his behavior would have gotten him banned from the site very quickly.
Forum mod since May 8, 2003 -- Game mod since May 19, 2003 -- Nation turned 20 on March 23, 2023!
Sunset's DoGA FAQ - For those using DoGA to make their NS military and such.
One Stop Rules Shop -- Reppy's Sig Workshop -- Getting Help Page
[violet] wrote:Maybe we could power our new search engine from the sexual tension between you two.
Char Aznable/Giant Meteor 2024! - Forcing humanity to move into space and progress whether we goddamn want to or not!

User avatar
Tsaivao
Diplomat
 
Posts: 594
Founded: Apr 07, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Tsaivao » Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:09 pm

Well, I think it's safe to say that this proposal is all over and done with. Anyone wanna actually write a proper condemnation of the CB?
~::~ May the five winds guide us to glory ~::~
OPERATION TEN-GO: Tsaivao Authority confirms wormhole drives based on alien designs are functional | Gen. Tsaosin: "Operational integrity is the key to our success against the xenic threat. In a week, we will have already infiltrated into their world." | All leaders of Tsaivao send personal farewells to Ten-Go special forces unit Tsaikantan-8
Nation doesn't reflect my personal beliefs, NS stats aren't really worried about except for Nudity because "haha funny"
The symbol on my flag is supposed to be a typhoon
Pro: LGBT, BLM, Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Rationalism
Neutral: Gun Rights, Abortion, Centrism
Anti: Trumpism, Radicalization, Fundamentalism, Fascism

User avatar
Kazuma Akasun
Civil Servant
 
Posts: 7
Founded: Jan 09, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby Kazuma Akasun » Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:11 pm

Tsaivao wrote:Well, I think it's safe to say that this proposal is all over and done with. Anyone wanna actually write a proper condemnation of the CB?


I'd pay to see that. Anyway, the hospital staff beckon. I'm out.

User avatar
Jedinsto
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1196
Founded: Nov 12, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Jedinsto » Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:13 pm

Tsaivao wrote:Well, I think it's safe to say that this proposal is all over and done with. Anyone wanna actually write a proper condemnation of the CB?

I won't do it myself, but I'd consider voting for it if done properly.

User avatar
Jedinsto
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1196
Founded: Nov 12, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Jedinsto » Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:15 pm

Sincluda wrote:
Tsaivao wrote:Well, I think it's safe to say that this proposal is all over and done with. Anyone wanna actually write a proper condemnation of the CB?

Monkchester should just submit their campaign telegram with a couple tweaks. Seriously. That would work well, actually.

Agreed, assuming they edited to make it a real proposal.
Last edited by Jedinsto on Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:16 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Outer Sparta
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 15109
Founded: Dec 26, 2014
Democratic Socialists

Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:16 pm

United States of Americanas wrote:The SC is a badge hunters dream with a loose floor. A resounding no vote from here and I hope everyone else rejects this clear badgehunt. This doesn’t even format its self as a SC resolution. Who let this come to the floor?

Basically one can ride on the bandwagon (like with this one by saying "communism bad") and get enough delegates to jump on that bandwagon to approve any resolution regardless of quality.
Free Palestine, stop the genocide in Gaza

User avatar
New Astri
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 362
Founded: Jan 18, 2021
Left-wing Utopia

Postby New Astri » Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:18 pm

Aren't condemnations supposed to be for well-done IC "evil" acts? Not the OOC problems addressed in the telegram in question.
the communist bloc's silliest little hegemon

User avatar
Outer Sparta
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 15109
Founded: Dec 26, 2014
Democratic Socialists

Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:19 pm

New Astri wrote:Aren't condemnations supposed to be for well-done IC "evil" acts? Not the OOC problems addressed in the telegram in question.

If people want to focus on that, then they could look at TCB's in-game activities, not simply by saying that communism is bad and base the entire argument from that.
Free Palestine, stop the genocide in Gaza

User avatar
Adab
Negotiator
 
Posts: 7180
Founded: May 28, 2014
Democratic Socialists

Postby Adab » Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:21 pm

Tsaivao wrote:Well, I think it's safe to say that this proposal is all over and done with. Anyone wanna actually write a proper condemnation of the CB?


I'd love to see a properly-written condemnation. I would probably vote for it.
Male, 23, Indonesian

Major partner in free association with Faraby (that's my puppet/secondary nation IRL).

Factbook

Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing.
-Muhammad Ali

User avatar
Ohpistan
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 24
Founded: Mar 03, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby Ohpistan » Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:21 pm

As the writers of this proposal, and it failing this badly, we'll take it upon ourselves to write a better resolution. Monk, Kazakh, I, and others in our region can perfect the condemnation, with feedback from others.

User avatar
Tsaivao
Diplomat
 
Posts: 594
Founded: Apr 07, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Tsaivao » Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:55 pm

Ohpistan wrote:with feedback from others.

GUYS THEY FINALLY GOT THE MESSAGE!!

This is what we've been trying to do since this thing was drafted
Last edited by Tsaivao on Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.
~::~ May the five winds guide us to glory ~::~
OPERATION TEN-GO: Tsaivao Authority confirms wormhole drives based on alien designs are functional | Gen. Tsaosin: "Operational integrity is the key to our success against the xenic threat. In a week, we will have already infiltrated into their world." | All leaders of Tsaivao send personal farewells to Ten-Go special forces unit Tsaikantan-8
Nation doesn't reflect my personal beliefs, NS stats aren't really worried about except for Nudity because "haha funny"
The symbol on my flag is supposed to be a typhoon
Pro: LGBT, BLM, Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Rationalism
Neutral: Gun Rights, Abortion, Centrism
Anti: Trumpism, Radicalization, Fundamentalism, Fascism

User avatar
Radicalania
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 198
Founded: Dec 19, 2016
Democratic Socialists

Postby Radicalania » Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:29 am

Cynetia wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Who's "they?" TCB?

Yes, I mean the Communist Bloc.


Ironic, seems how we didn't write that
Posts on this account represent Martyn Kiryu and only Martyn Kiryu unless specified.

"Ask for work. If they don't give you work, ask for bread. If they don't give you work or bread, then take bread"-Emma Golding, Anarchism and Other Essays
ALL Cats Are Beautiful
"Martyn, I thought you quit?
-Everyone, 2019, 2021, 2023

User avatar
Daarwyrth
Minister
 
Posts: 2416
Founded: Jul 05, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Daarwyrth » Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:47 am

Ohpistan wrote:As the writers of this proposal, and it failing this badly, we'll take it upon ourselves to write a better resolution. Monk, Kazakh, I, and others in our region can perfect the condemnation, with feedback from others.

Seeing Kazakhstan 3's conduct on these forums, I'd strongly urge you to drop him from your writing team if you're serious about writing a condemnation of TCB. The name alone will cause people to be instantly put off by any proposal that he would write or be a part of.

I doubt I'd vote 'for' a condemnation of the TCB, however, if it were properly written I would at least treat it seriously.
Last edited by Daarwyrth on Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:52 am, edited 3 times in total.
The Royal State of Daarwyrth
Forest's Minister of Foreign Affairs

Leader: Queen Demi Maria I | Capital: Daarsted | Current year: 2022 CE
  • Daarwyrth
  • Uylensted
  • Kentauria
  • 27 years old male
  • Dutch with Polish roots
  • English literature major
  • Ex-religious gay leftist

User avatar
Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts
Diplomat
 
Posts: 524
Founded: Oct 30, 2020
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts » Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:55 am

Attention, whoever got this to public vote,
I disregarded a telegram telling me to change my vote to 'for'.

This is a bit invasive and I'm still holding on.
Much of the Free Nations Region, and more than 12,000 nations,
have voted against the proposal.

Good job changing some's minds, and I have to 'Commend for Effort', but
it's not gonna go so well with some.
bruz

Not affiliated with Dunder-Mifflin Paper Company
or any associated firms

User avatar
Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts
Diplomat
 
Posts: 524
Founded: Oct 30, 2020
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts » Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:58 am

Kazakhstan 3 wrote:Galantius 3 you are clearly a
Communist in disguise. If you don’t support my bill you support communism. Just like you said their are only two options. Either you are a communist or a buffoon. My proposal is perfect.



I don't support communism, and I've voted against this bill, not on ideological grounds,
but because it's vague, poorly written, and it's likely it won't pass due to this.

I am not a communist,
I am aligned to the middle centre-left politically,
but I still don't support this bill, because its terms
are vague and the bill is poorly constructed.
bruz

Not affiliated with Dunder-Mifflin Paper Company
or any associated firms

User avatar
Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts
Diplomat
 
Posts: 524
Founded: Oct 30, 2020
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts » Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:58 am

Kazakhstan 3 wrote:Galantius 3 you are clearly a
Communist in disguise. If you don’t support my bill you support communism. Just like you said their are only two options. Either you are a communist or a buffoon. My proposal is perfect.



I don't support communism, and I've voted against this bill, not on ideological grounds,
but because it's vague, poorly written, and it's likely it won't pass due to this.

I am not a communist,
I am aligned to the middle centre-left politically,
but I still don't support this bill, because its terms
are vague and the bill is poorly constructed.
bruz

Not affiliated with Dunder-Mifflin Paper Company
or any associated firms

User avatar
Team Lennox
Envoy
 
Posts: 268
Founded: Feb 24, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Team Lennox » Wed Mar 10, 2021 4:59 am

Kazakhstan 3 wrote:Galantius 3 you are clearly a
Communist in disguise. If you don’t support my bill you support communism. Just like you said their are only two options. Either you are a communist or a buffoon. My proposal is perfect.

No it doesn't. Also ur proposal isn't perfect it all. :roll:
HE/HIM. Use those pronouns! Do NOT assume my gender!


  • An American born citizen
  • A teenager doing teenage stuff (I guess)
  • A leftist (remind me to make a dispatch on my beliefs later)
  • A Christian with usually fundamentalists views (except for on the Patriarchist, (Bible wasn't a big thing on Gender equity) and LGBTQ+ rights, (Bible wasn't a big thing on that either) (Also the Mosaic law doesn't let us eat things like bacon and ham since in the Bible pigs are unclean animals. Like how am I to survive not eating bacon! >:( )





User avatar
Jedinsto
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1196
Founded: Nov 12, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Jedinsto » Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:46 am

Ophistan, as has been stated before, you are much better off not including kazhakstan in your draft. That's just my advice, but based on what I know about your region's background, if the resolution comes from a single one of you or your region mates who were there for the founding, I will be voting against.

User avatar
Silvedania
Minister
 
Posts: 3161
Founded: Apr 17, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Silvedania » Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:48 am

Kazakhstan 3 wrote:Galantius 3 you are clearly a
Communist in disguise. If you don’t support my bill you support communism. Just like you said their are only two options. Either you are a communist or a buffoon. My proposal is perfect.

Stop using a political ideology you don't like as an insult. I don't go around calling people I don't like 'Lassez-Fairests'.
Silvedania, the majestic nation.
NS Stats are mostly accurate except for a few things, like this nation is capitalist and the death penalty isn't in effect

News:All trade with Crabaiaia and Pikala has stopped as diplomats meet in Trenaka.  Silvedanians are confused by Quentin Tarantulatino's new film, Seasonal Snackbox(This is a Bojack Horseman reference.) Weird song goes viral for making no sense.

Co-founder of LITA | Member of ICDN | Former Member of SETA | Member of IFTC | He/Him/His | Airport: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=493569#p37851012
Being president looks like the worst job in the world. -John Mulaney

User avatar
Western Theram
Diplomat
 
Posts: 595
Founded: Aug 05, 2020
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Western Theram » Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:48 am

dammit who let donald trump on nationstates?
"i won this in a landslide" "my proposal will pass without any evidence" "i expect full respect and support for my ideas but i will go off on anyone who disagrees with me"
All policies are canon, stats only selectively
Acid-Communism |This nation does represent my views (is also a parody of them) Certified Rat Girl
☆ Proudhonian economics, Post-Modern tech, Anarchist paramilitaries, and Human test subjects for science ☣️
news:Gang of goblins charged with racketeering after gang war was interrupted.|Free Ravensburg coins the name of our animal: the Jackaroo

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to WA Archives

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users

Advertisement

Remove ads