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Postby Daarwyrth » Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:29 am

Kazakhstan 3 wrote:
Hiram Land wrote:If we look at the graph of how the vote has happened then we can see that the "Against" graph increasingly jumped towards the 9k mark, and I expect the graph to continue this way for at least the next few hours. Meanwhile, the "For" graph has basically jumped for a tiny bit, then became stagnant at least one hour after the voting began. The biggest jump happened around 14 hours from when I wrote this when the vote against jumped about 1k bigger.

Any notion of a "silent majority" or anything like it should be put to rest if it hasn't already. They haven't come, and it seems they won't ever come.

The silent majority had to work unlike some forum lurkers with too much free time. They will come have no fear.

How long are you going to pretend you're being serious? You have lost your credibility ages ago. We are nearing the 10k mark for 'against' votes. There is no "silent majority" that will come to save your proposal. The fact of the matter is that you're in a minority, unfortunately a very loud one, but a minority nonetheless. Deal with it and move on.
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Postby Refuge Isle » Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:50 am

Daarwyrth wrote:
Kazakhstan 3 wrote:The silent majority had to work unlike some forum lurkers with too much free time. They will come have no fear.

How long are you going to pretend you're being serious? You have lost your credibility ages ago. We are nearing the 10k mark for 'against' votes. There is no "silent majority" that will come to save your proposal. The fact of the matter is that you're in a minority, unfortunately a very loud one, but a minority nonetheless. Deal with it and move on.

Given that the OP is presently approving the meme response proposal "Commend The Communist Bloc" by Kavagrad, it's increasingly safe to say that this proposal was a farce.

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Postby Daarwyrth » Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:58 am

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Daarwyrth wrote:How long are you going to pretend you're being serious? You have lost your credibility ages ago. We are nearing the 10k mark for 'against' votes. There is no "silent majority" that will come to save your proposal. The fact of the matter is that you're in a minority, unfortunately a very loud one, but a minority nonetheless. Deal with it and move on.

Given that the OP is presently approving the meme response proposal "Commend The Communist Bloc" by Kavagrad, it's increasingly safe to say that this proposal was a farce.

Oh, that was clear from the moment they started to speak of their proposal as "glorious" and "groundbreaking". Well, their behaviour has had consequences, fortunately.
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Postby Jedinsto » Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:20 am

Refuge Isle wrote:
Daarwyrth wrote:How long are you going to pretend you're being serious? You have lost your credibility ages ago. We are nearing the 10k mark for 'against' votes. There is no "silent majority" that will come to save your proposal. The fact of the matter is that you're in a minority, unfortunately a very loud one, but a minority nonetheless. Deal with it and move on.

Given that the OP is presently approving the meme response proposal "Commend The Communist Bloc" by Kavagrad, it's increasingly safe to say that this proposal was a farce.

They also approved their own condemnation. He claimed in the original thread that he wished to "challenge the notion that a condemnation is a badge of honor." Very suspicious.

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Postby ZhongMania » Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:24 am

This resolution is a disgrace to The Communist Bloc
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Postby Jedinsto » Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:25 am

First of the day, here is the recap of the voting so far-

Total for: 1,867
Individuals for: 939
Total against: 10,261
Individuals against: 2,953
Individuals against is 158% of the total for, and more than 3 times more individuals for.

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Postby Blaist Blaland » Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:02 am

This proposal is an embarrassment to the WA and we will continue to protect our workers' rights, freedom from exploitation by capitalists, our people's rights to education, healthcare and housing, no matter who would support this slander campaign.
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Postby Ainland » Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:17 am

Jedinsto wrote:Individuals against is 158% of the total for, and more than 3 times more individuals for.

Can we not just use the normal method of saying 76% individuals against, 24% individuals for? It's clearly a huge difference and doesn't require anything to try to make it look bigger.

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Postby Jedinsto » Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:27 am

Ainland wrote:
Jedinsto wrote:Individuals against is 158% of the total for, and more than 3 times more individuals for.

Can we not just use the normal method of saying 76% individuals against, 24% individuals for? It's clearly a huge difference and doesn't require anything to try to make it look bigger.

Alright, just making the point of how individuals against is quite larger than total for, to quell any argument of corruption by delegates.

Edit: It was also kinda meant to be unnecessary statistics
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Postby Vikanias » Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:15 pm

Even though i have a disliking to the CB I am dismayed on how this even got to vote. The shortness, lack of reasoning, and simply the nation proposing this on the same day they founded it. Many other great proposals never get to light, AND this gets to voting? No hate to the guy who made this, he’s new and is still finding his steps. I’m just shocked at how this got approved by 70 delegates.
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Postby Vikanias » Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:21 pm

Monkchester wrote:If you think this proposal is going to fail by a record-setting margin, think again. I will campaign and campaign for this proposal. I will campaign so hard my hands will fall off from sending so many telegrams.


Lmao, ain’t gonna stop ppl from reading it and seeing how shitty it is
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Postby Vikanias » Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:23 pm

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Drew Durrnil wrote:What's the record anyway?

Ironically, my records show it to be "Condemn Deruuu", which received 2,176 votes for and 21,292 against, coming out at 9.27% approval. Those records are, however, incomplete. There may be older ones that failed even harder.


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Postby Kazakhstan 3 » Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:52 pm

My Ban has been lifted. Some things to note. This vote is flawed. WA delegates greatly skew the votes. And for those who say that the individuals against are still greater. Many regions require a unanimous vote for the majority view within a region and others feel pressure to vote with their delegate. If this was truly a democratic election, I would win by a lot.

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Postby Drew Durrnil » Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:00 pm

False, individual nations voting against far outnumber those voting for.
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Postby Nevertopia » Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:02 pm

For, for obvious reasons.
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Postby Ohpistan » Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:04 pm

Drew Durrnil wrote:False, individual nations voting against far outnumber those voting for.

As Kazakhstan noted, this vote is influenced by the big regions.

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Postby Tsaivao » Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:07 pm

Ohpistan wrote:
Drew Durrnil wrote:False, individual nations voting against far outnumber those voting for.

As Kazakhstan noted, this vote is influenced by the big regions.
Kazakhstan 3 wrote:My Ban has been lifted. Some things to note. This vote is flawed. WA delegates greatly skew the votes. And for those who say that the individuals against are still greater. Many regions require a unanimous vote for the majority view within a region and others feel pressure to vote with their delegate. If this was truly a democratic election, I would win by a lot.

Just stop with it. Yes, big delegates influence elections. Welcome to the real world (or rather, the fake world inside the WA inside the real world).
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Postby Ohpistan » Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:12 pm

Tsaivao wrote:
Ohpistan wrote:As Kazakhstan noted, this vote is influenced by the big regions.
Kazakhstan 3 wrote:My Ban has been lifted. Some things to note. This vote is flawed. WA delegates greatly skew the votes. And for those who say that the individuals against are still greater. Many regions require a unanimous vote for the majority view within a region and others feel pressure to vote with their delegate. If this was truly a democratic election, I would win by a lot.

Just stop with it. Yes, big delegates influence elections. Welcome to the real world (or rather, the fake world inside the WA inside the real world).


So we should just do nothing to deal with the corruption?

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Postby Refuge Isle » Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:50 pm

Kazakhstan 3 wrote:My Ban has been lifted. Some things to note. This vote is flawed. WA delegates greatly skew the votes. And for those who say that the individuals against are still greater. Many regions require a unanimous vote for the majority view within a region and others feel pressure to vote with their delegate. If this was truly a democratic election, I would win by a lot.

You're very insightful for supposedly only having existed for a week, yet I cannot think of a single region that requires unanimous votes amongst its members. I'm sure there are some in the 2-3 delegate range where we can assign any theoretical government design, by the numbers. But there is no mechanical ability to force nations to vote a certain way except by threat of ejection.

So I'm sure you have some examples of regions where that's the practice. Go through the list, if you wish, of regions where super-delegates live and provide substance to your claims.

Ohpistan wrote:So we should just do nothing to deal with the corruption?

The vote is not losing because of World Assembly Elite baddies, it's losing because it's 284 characters of low quality writing.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:18 pm

Ohpistan wrote:
Tsaivao wrote:Just stop with it. Yes, big delegates influence elections. Welcome to the real world (or rather, the fake world inside the WA inside the real world).


So we should just do nothing to deal with the corruption?

I bet you wouldn't think the WA is "corrupt" if the major delegates vote for resolutions you support.
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Postby Wallenburg » Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:25 pm

Refuge Isle wrote:
Ohpistan wrote:So we should just do nothing to deal with the corruption?

The vote is not losing because of World Assembly Elite baddies, it's losing because it's 284 characters of low quality writing.

I think we're supposed to be the baddies. It's been made clear more than once that those who voted against are godless communists. While I think that sounds fun, the author clearly does not think so.
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Postby Doofstonian » Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:58 am

Due to pressure from other regions and the realization of the proposals laziness in writing, my country and region have withdrawn our votes from the proposal.

My country stands against communism but won’t endorse proposals without reasoning too.

Thank you to those who telegrammed me with information on the situation.

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Postby Daarwyrth » Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:04 am

Ohpistan wrote:
Tsaivao wrote:Just stop with it. Yes, big delegates influence elections. Welcome to the real world (or rather, the fake world inside the WA inside the real world).


So we should just do nothing to deal with the corruption?

There is no corruption. The only corruption that has been introduced into the WA is this proposal the very moment it was submitted to the queue. Take responsibility and admit that this proposal is simply not good enough to convince people and draw traction, instead of creating lies and misinformation about fictitious corruption or vote skewing. It may come as a surprise, but that's how democracy works: if your viewpoint fails to convince people, it is voted against.
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Postby Picairn » Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:31 am

Kazakhstan 3 wrote:My Ban has been lifted. Some things to note. This vote is flawed. WA delegates greatly skew the votes. And for those who say that the individuals against are still greater. Many regions require a unanimous vote for the majority view within a region and others feel pressure to vote with their delegate. If this was truly a democratic election, I would win by a lot.

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