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And Spaces
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Founded: Nov 15, 2020
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Postby And Spaces » Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:49 am

Monkchester wrote:Keep in mind that the early vote is likely to be nations who were prepared for this. We are currently only losing 107-33 in the individual nations vote. I am confident that we will turn the tide in the individual nation vote.

You lost, basically. Right now 16.7% voted For, but almost all of them voted because "Communism Bad" or whatever. I personally don't like the delegate system because it allows delegates like McMasterdonia and Beepee to sway the vote even when most individual nations voted the other side, but when most individual nations voted Against it shows that nobody likes the proposal.
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United Engiresco
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Postby United Engiresco » Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:51 am

I'm firmly against this resolution. Reason being is because of the poor quality and how short it is.
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Postby Makdon » Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:53 am

Silvedania wrote:Stop using a political ideology you don't like as an insult. I don't go around calling people I don't like 'Lassez-Fairests'.

I do.

Anyways, I've been away for a month and I come back to this? smh my head
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Postby United Engiresco » Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:56 am

Makdon wrote:
Silvedania wrote:Stop using a political ideology you don't like as an insult. I don't go around calling people I don't like 'Lassez-Fairests'.

I do.

Anyways, I've been away for a month and I come back to this? smh my head

I miss when resolutions had proper reasons for why a region should be commended/condemned/liberated or when a nation should be commended/condemned. We seriously need to fix the WA...
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Postby Silvedania » Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:00 am

United Engiresco wrote:
Makdon wrote:I do.

Anyways, I've been away for a month and I come back to this? smh my head

I miss when resolutions had proper reasons for why a region should be commended/condemned/liberated or when a nation should be commended/condemned. We seriously need to fix the WA...

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Eight Circles
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Postby Eight Circles » Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:09 am

Kazakhstan 3 wrote:Galantius 3 you are clearly a
Communist in disguise. If you don’t support my bill you support communism. Just like you said there are only two options. Either you are a communist or a buffoon. My proposal is perfect.

To be honest, I voted for your proposal because of my strong hatred because of the social policies they support, but otherwise, yours is just bad, just because I'm anti-communist, it doesn't mean I completely support your policies, and I'm pretty sure you are 10-13 anyways, so I could understand why.

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Postby Lumio Magika » Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:38 am

Kazakhstan 3 wrote:Galantius 3 you are clearly a
Communist in disguise. If you don’t support my bill you support communism. Just like you said their are only two options. Either you are a communist or a buffoon. My proposal is perfect.


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Servilis
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Postby Servilis » Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:46 am

Although I have been exiled from TCB,
and I failed in my duties as LCM and MoWAA,
TCB is still a place where my Comrades reside,
I do not believe that TCB has failed to provide
for it's citizens,

What I do believe, is that Lewis is a donkey,

haha gottem,

jokes aside, I'm voting AGAINST this trash
proposal, if a condemnation of Asvalya came through,
I would vote FOR it,
I'm kidding... I still hate you though, Valeryon,
HAD 2 WEEKS LEFT, I WAS GONNA RESIGN,
GOTT VIR DAMT!

Anyways, Breadcat says vote AGAINST this condemnation, it's poorly written and it's premise is false,

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Postby Shamian » Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:18 am

Sincluda wrote:
And Spaces wrote:Actually, most votes for are actually from TCB itself!


True.
My region has a bunch of folk - including our delegate - who believe that this terribly written pile of steaming excrement is a "spicy meme", and thus must be supported on general principle. :rofl:

The meme in question being that you delegates allowed this hunk of cack to make quorum;
even though it won't pass, the sheer fact that something this poor made it as far as being voted on, makes the SC look incredibly foolish.
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Ohpistan
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Postby Ohpistan » Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:38 am

Jedinsto wrote:Ophistan, as has been stated before, you are much better off not including kazhakstan in your draft. That's just my advice, but based on what I know about your region's background, if the resolution comes from a single one of you or your region mates who were there for the founding, I will be voting against.


I will be respecting many other nations opinions in the creation of such a resolution, but being aware of the interactions between you and Kazakh 3, I will weigh your opinion much less. Please be more respectful towards our delegate in the future.

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Postby Jedinsto » Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:41 am

Ohpistan wrote:
Jedinsto wrote:Ophistan, as has been stated before, you are much better off not including kazhakstan in your draft. That's just my advice, but based on what I know about your region's background, if the resolution comes from a single one of you or your region mates who were there for the founding, I will be voting against.


I will be respecting many other nations opinions in the creation of such a resolution, but being aware of the interactions between you and Kazakh 3, I will weigh your opinion much less. Please be more respectful towards our delegate in the future.

Kaz has been nothing but a *redacted* to me, so, no. As for you, you've been somewhat respectful to me, so I will reciprocate.

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Postby Ohpistan » Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:41 am

And Spaces wrote: I personally don't like the delegate system because it allows delegates like McMasterdonia and Beepee to sway the vote even when most individual nations voted the other side, but when most individual nations voted Against it shows that nobody likes the proposal.


Fair enough.

Sincluda wrote:Actually, most votes for are actually from TCB itself!


Which is why we were hesitant about a rewrite at first. We were excited to buy TCB votes too. But V2 will come out soon enough, and unfortunately, they won't be on our side.

Eight Circles wrote:and I'm pretty sure you are 10-13 anyways


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Postby AverageJoevlania » Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:17 pm

How in the world did this get approved? It's so short...

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Postby Goraria » Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:15 pm

AverageJoevlania wrote:How in the world did this get approved? It's so short...

Didn’t break any rules and about 80 nations approved it.
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Postby A z a n i a » Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:44 pm

Silent majority must still be at church.
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Postby Hiram Land » Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:12 pm

A z a n i a wrote:Silent majority must still be at church.

Hey, you got to pray a long time for your sins to be removed.
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Postby Tsaivao » Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:07 pm

Ohpistan wrote:
Jedinsto wrote:Ophistan, as has been stated before, you are much better off not including kazhakstan in your draft. That's just my advice, but based on what I know about your region's background, if the resolution comes from a single one of you or your region mates who were there for the founding, I will be voting against.


I will be respecting many other nations opinions in the creation of such a resolution, but being aware of the interactions between you and Kazakh 3, I will weigh your opinion much less. Please be more respectful towards our delegate in the future.

With all due respect, your delegate has been nothing but condescending and pigheaded since the very beginning of this. If you want respect, you have to give a little respect.

If I were you, I'd vote for a new delegate. You yourself seem to be much more befitting for the task at hand as you're actually capable of wording your thoughts and accepting some humility.
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Postby Daarwyrth » Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:54 pm

Ohpistan wrote:Which is why we were hesitant about a rewrite at first. We were excited to buy TCB votes too. But V2 will come out soon enough, and unfortunately, they won't be on our side.

"My dear colleague, don't you think that such a proposal would come too soon after this... debacle? The memory of this unfortunate resolution is still very fresh in the minds of many, and will remain as such for quite some time. Might I suggest your cabal refrain from submitting any new version of this proposal for the foreseeable future, so that the memory of this event may fade from memory somewhat?"
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OOC: In other words, if you plan on making any revised version right now, or very soon after the vote over this failure is over, you're guaranteed go fail, because of the conduct of some nations that are associated with your endeavour to condemn TCB.
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Postby Hiram Land » Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:12 pm

Voting ends in two hours. It has already been clear which side won, but just to recap, from the point of writing this: 12,802 against - 2,648 for - 0 absentations, or 83% to 17%, but that's not breaking any SC records.
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Postby Jedinsto » Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:12 pm

Since the silent majority is yet to return from their four day church session, this proposal is going to fail. If there is to be a new draft made by anyone from Free the Cheese, and the author and all listed co-authors are Commonwealth of Don, Kazakhstan 3, Ohpistan, Dilomian (if they join the WA), miltonfriedmanlandia, my vote will automatically be cast against without considering the draft at all, and I will strongly suggest others to do the same. Likely your only chance is to heavily include monkchester and/or of freedom and liberty.

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Postby Jedinsto » Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:16 pm

Sincluda wrote:
Jedinsto wrote:Likely your only chance is to heavily include monkchester and/or of freedom and liberty.

And probably remove Kazakhstan 3, as well.

That would be heavily preferable, but I would at least consider it if he was included, but monkchester or freedom and liberty had a major part in it. Those two have sense.

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Postby Ohpistan » Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:23 pm

Jedinsto wrote:Since the silent majority is yet to return from their four day church session, this proposal is going to fail. If there is to be a new draft made by anyone from Free the Cheese, and the author and all listed co-authors are Commonwealth of Don, Kazakhstan 3, Ohpistan, Dilomian (if they join the WA), miltonfriedmanlandia, my vote will automatically be cast against without considering the draft at all, and I will strongly suggest others to do the same. Likely your only chance is to heavily include monkchester and/or of freedom and liberty.


I know they have a serious side to them, and I'll be the one actually doing the writing. Do not fear - the professionality will be there! But if you are going to vote against without even considering the text itself, just doing it based on the authors, I suggest you rethink that plan.

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Postby Jedinsto » Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:26 pm

Ohpistan wrote:
Jedinsto wrote:Since the silent majority is yet to return from their four day church session, this proposal is going to fail. If there is to be a new draft made by anyone from Free the Cheese, and the author and all listed co-authors are Commonwealth of Don, Kazakhstan 3, Ohpistan, Dilomian (if they join the WA), miltonfriedmanlandia, my vote will automatically be cast against without considering the draft at all, and I will strongly suggest others to do the same. Likely your only chance is to heavily include monkchester and/or of freedom and liberty.


I know they have a serious side to them, and I'll be the one actually doing the writing. Do not fear - the professionality will be there! But if you are going to vote against without even considering the text itself, just doing it based on the authors, I suggest you rethink that plan.

As long as the authors have sense- maybe I'll let you slide- I will consider voting for, but if not, why would I give them credit when in my eyes, they've forfeited any right to credit for something like that?

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Postby Refuge Isle » Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:16 pm

"Condemn The Communist Bloc" was defeated 13,232 votes to 2,311.

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Postby Greater Cesnica » Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:31 pm

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