[DEFEATED] Condemn The Communist Bloc

[Test of Belief]

The nation that made the proposal sent the region an invitation to "Free the Cheese". They were denied 2 days ago. Seems suspect to me...

[Ohpistan]

The nation that made the proposal sent the region an invitation to "Free the Cheese". They were denied 2 days ago. Seems suspect to me...

Uhh, Kazakhstan 3 is the founder and leader of Free the Cheese.

[Outer Sparta]

I don’t think you’re quorum raid was successful because I regained all the supporters I lost within a few hours. If the wa wasn’t skewed by delegate power and regions forcing votes on the minority this would be an easy win for freedom and liberty.

You keep trying to say the WA is "corrupt" without giving any evidence. If in an alternate scenario you actually created a well-written proposal and many of the big delegates vote for yours, is the WA "corrupt" in that case?

[Perierunt]

I'm surprised by this proposal at vote, very short and not to the polished NS standard usually implented. Did some comedic mishaps happened during the screening process?

No offense or anything, just curious as a passerby

[Jedinsto]

I don't understand why kazakstan 3, who wishes to "challenge the notion that condemnations are badges of honor for playing the bad guy," approved a proposal for his own condemnation, and also, strangely supported commend TCB. I inquired him over the matter through telegrams, and he stopped responding after going back and forth a couple times. He never answered the question. Very strange indeed.

[The Reformed American Republic]

Quorum raiding over this is pathetic and unnecessary. It has no chance.

[Jar Wattinree]

I'm surprised by this proposal at vote, very short and not to the polished NS standard usually implented. Did some comedic mishaps happened during the screening process?

No offense or anything, just curious as a passerby

Probably a bandwagoning joke effect for the approvals initially. Maybe.

[Refuge Isle]

Quorum raiding over this is pathetic and unnecessary. It has no chance.

Given that the resolution is at vote, that is certain.

[Jedinsto]

Probably the last unnecessary commentary on the vote count from me for day one of voting, but here we go. (I'm not gonna bother with percentages anymore until the vote count is final)

Total for: 1,700
Individuals for: 800
Total against: 9,582
Individuals against: 2,544
Individuals against is 150%(rounded to the hundredth) the total for.

[The Reformed American Republic]

Quorum raiding over this is pathetic and unnecessary. It has no chance.

Given that the resolution is at vote, that is certain.

There were raids due to this resolution before the vote, and I'm saying that it was unnecessary. People honestly had to realize this would never pass.

[Jedinsto]

Given that the resolution is at vote, that is certain.

There were raids due to this resolution before the vote, and I'm saying that it was unnecessary. People honestly had to realize this would never pass.

I mean, they knew it wasn't going to pass, which is why they tried. It's a waste of our time I'd rather not have.

[Hiram Land]

If we look at the graph of how the vote has happened then we can see that the "Against" graph increasingly jumped towards the 9k mark, and I expect the graph to continue this way for at least the next few hours. Meanwhile, the "For" graph has basically jumped for a tiny bit, then became stagnant at least one hour after the voting began. The biggest jump happened around 14 hours from when I wrote this when the vote against jumped about 1k bigger.

Any notion of a "silent majority" or anything like it should be put to rest if it hasn't already. They haven't come, and it seems they won't ever come.

[The Reformed American Republic]

If we look at the graph of how the vote has happened then we can see that the "Against" graph increasingly jumped towards the 9k mark, and I expect the graph to continue this way for at least the next few hours. Meanwhile, the "For" graph has basically jumped for a tiny bit, then became stagnant at least one hour after the voting began. The biggest jump happened around 14 hours from when I wrote this when the vote against jumped about 1k bigger.

Any notion of a "silent majority" or anything like it should be put to rest if it hasn't already. They haven't come, and it seems they won't ever come.

I wouldn't expect a "silent majority" coming forth for a crap proposal. Maybe a well written condemnation, but not this crap.

[Kazakhstan 3]

If we look at the graph of how the vote has happened then we can see that the "Against" graph increasingly jumped towards the 9k mark, and I expect the graph to continue this way for at least the next few hours. Meanwhile, the "For" graph has basically jumped for a tiny bit, then became stagnant at least one hour after the voting began. The biggest jump happened around 14 hours from when I wrote this when the vote against jumped about 1k bigger.

Any notion of a "silent majority" or anything like it should be put to rest if it hasn't already. They haven't come, and it seems they won't ever come.

The silent majority had to work unlike some forum lurkers with too much free time. They will come have no fear.

[Crowheim]

I hope you realise a lot of major delegates are democratically elected and speak for the people.....

*Every

Well, while it doesn't make a difference, for the sake of factual accuracy...

Dilber, Valerievna, North East Somerest, Treadwellia, East Durthang, and Primorye Oblast (at the very least) aren't democratically elected. However, at least a few of them vote based upon how their region's citizenry votes, so it works out to be the same thing in the end.

[Kazakhstan 3]

*Every

Well, while it doesn't make a difference, for the sake of factual accuracy...

Dilber, Valerievna, North East Somerest, Treadwellia, East Durthang, and Primorye Oblast (at the very least) aren't democratically elected. However, at least a few of them vote based upon how their region's citizenry votes, so it works out to be the same thing in the end.

No the point here is that the minority vote of a region that casts all votes to one or the other gets effectively no vote, however, if they are in a nation that allows individual voting they would vote differently.

[Galiantus III]

Well, while it doesn't make a difference, for the sake of factual accuracy...

Dilber, Valerievna, North East Somerest, Treadwellia, East Durthang, and Primorye Oblast (at the very least) aren't democratically elected. However, at least a few of them vote based upon how their region's citizenry votes, so it works out to be the same thing in the end.

No the point here is that the minority vote of a region that casts all votes to one or the other gets effectively no vote, however, if they are in a nation that allows individual voting they would vote differently.

There is literally no part of the game that prevents individual nations from voting how they like, and if someone doesn't like how their delegate votes they can always move and endorse a delegate that does.

[Crowheim]

Well, while it doesn't make a difference, for the sake of factual accuracy...

Dilber, Valerievna, North East Somerest, Treadwellia, East Durthang, and Primorye Oblast (at the very least) aren't democratically elected. However, at least a few of them vote based upon how their region's citizenry votes, so it works out to be the same thing in the end.

No the point here is that the minority vote of a region that casts all votes to one or the other gets effectively no vote, however, if they are in a nation that allows individual voting they would vote differently.

Uhm... what?

[Picairn]

The silent majority had to work unlike some forum lurkers with too much free time. They will come have no fear.

In case you've forgotten, the individual votes Against are bigger than total votes For.

How embarassing.

[Reploid Productions]

The silent majority had to work unlike some forum lurkers with too much free time. They will come have no fear.

*** 1-day ban for trolling. *** You can argue why your proposal is performing so badly without calling forum users a bunch of jobless bums.

[Sher10ck]

I don’t think you’re quorum raid was successful because I regained all the supporters I lost within a few hours. If the wa wasn’t skewed by delegate power and regions forcing votes on the minority this would be an easy win for freedom and liberty.

Yet, let it be pointed out, the complaint against the Communist Bloc (TCB) was that they have "taken control of their industry" and "their leaders intentionally decrease civil liberties". To the first, that is a mute point, as many nations seek to gain wealth, yet the avenues used to acquire said wealth depend on the country, and if they are ok with their industrial plan, then that is their decision. No need to hate on it, just because it is a different system than what you believe in. To the second point, that is nothing but a lie. Of their leaders, which I am considering to be anyone in their factbook, only one person has their 'civil liberty' score below a score of 70. Meaning that they have high civil liberties, despite what the accuser, Kazakhstan 3, has said.

This is the same case with political freedoms, all of the leaders have high scores, meaning that this is a smear against The Communist Bloc, with no real evidence to support claims against them.



*Note: the commentary about TCB's leaders taking control of their industry is true, however, I see no reason as why we should condemn a group for that

[Scalizagasti]

The United Regions Alliance recommends that nations vote against the resolution. During internal voting, 3 regions voted in favour of the resolution, 6 voted against, and 2 abstained.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1515905

[Shazbotdom]

The Empire votes against this.

[Finestand Islands]

I would love to, but some of my friends happen to be communist, gotta go against.

[Island Zero]

its a little early for an april fools joke