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Postby Lord Dominator » Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:49 pm

Proposal is garbage, and from the looks of it just barely legal.
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New Astri wrote:Imo it's ridiculous to vote for this resolution because you don't like TCB. You should vote based on the quality of a proposal, not based on how much you agree or disagree with the vague opinion behind it (whether that's "tcb bad" or "communist bad" or anything else). I just don't think it's a great idea to back poorly written proposals solely bc you like the sentiment.

We might as well give TBH a third condemnation badge because of their mere existence. Who knows how good of an idea that is?

A very good one ;)

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Postby Praeceps » Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:50 pm

inb4 all of the "I told you so" posts. :p
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Postby Ohpistan » Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:53 pm

I think it's time we consider the intentions of this resolution instead of psychoanalyzing every smalll aspect. Commending the simplicity of this bill, the author (while I also agree could have written this better) has made clear their intentions without hiding behind complicated words and phrases. The intention is simple - to comdemn the communist bloc. This warran may be bad, but it's finally time we do something right.

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Postby Picairn » Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:56 pm

Maybe I should vote for this, for the meme. :p
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:58 pm

Ohpistan wrote:I think it's time we consider the intentions of this resolution instead of psychoanalyzing every smalll aspect. Commending the simplicity of this bill, the author (while I also agree could have written this better) has made clear their intentions without hiding behind complicated words and phrases. The intention is simple - to comdemn the communist bloc. This warran may be bad, but it's finally time we do something right.

No it's a terrible resolution. I don't think you even know how bad it is.
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Postby Drew Durrnil » Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:58 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Ohpistan wrote:I think it's time we consider the intentions of this resolution instead of psychoanalyzing every smalll aspect. Commending the simplicity of this bill, the author (while I also agree could have written this better) has made clear their intentions without hiding behind complicated words and phrases. The intention is simple - to comdemn the communist bloc. This warran may be bad, but it's finally time we do something right.

No it's a terrible resolution. I don't think you even know how bad it is.

OwO we can make memes on how terrible this thing is
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Postby Ohpistan » Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:58 pm

I fully understand and am aware of the implications of this bill - practically no negatives to the TCB and some positives exist.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:59 pm

Ohpistan wrote:I fully understand and am aware of the implications of this bill - practically no negatives to the TCB and some positives exist.

Then why do you support it?
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Postby Hiram Land » Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:00 pm

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Postby Drew Durrnil » Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:00 pm

Lmao why tinhapton why
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Postby Kazakhstan 3 » Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:04 pm

Drew Durrnil wrote:Lmao why tinhapton why

Cuz she understand politics

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Postby Tinhampton » Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:05 pm

Drew Durrnil wrote:Lmao why tinhapton why

I know, right? :P Perhaps you could ask Kazakhstan 3 about his vote whi... wait, no.

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Postby Ohpistan » Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:06 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Ohpistan wrote:I fully understand and am aware of the implications of this bill - practically no negatives to the TCB and some positives exist.

Then why do you support it?

I'm a free thinker. If it hasn't been removed by moderation or deemed illegal, then it seems that there is some serious thought put into this resolution. You don't wish to consider due to its simplicity. Overlook that, even for a second, and as a consequentalist, you'll understand the effectiveness of it all.

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Postby Kazakhstan 3 » Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:07 pm

The Silent Majority is being suppressed but slowly they will creep forward into the vote.

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Postby Refuge Isle » Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:08 pm

Ohpistan wrote:If it hasn't been removed by moderation or deemed illegal, then it seems that there is some serious thought put into this resolution.

That is an interesting conclusion.

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Postby Kazakhstan 3 » Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:08 pm

"Count Every Vote"

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Postby Hiram Land » Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:08 pm

Ohpistan wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Then why do you support it?

I'm a free thinker. If it hasn't been removed by moderation or deemed illegal, then it seems that there is some serious thought put into this resolution. You don't wish to consider due to its simplicity. Overlook that, even for a second, and as a consequentalist, you'll understand the effectiveness of it all.

Proposals being declared legal is the bare minimum. It means that it hadn't broken any rules, it's not a indicator of whether it's a good proposal or not.
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Postby Eumaeus » Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:09 pm

Kazakhstan 3 wrote:The Silent Majority is being suppressed but slowly they will creep forward into the vote.

pffffffffffffthahahahahaahahajhajha.... no.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:11 pm

Ohpistan wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Then why do you support it?

I'm a free thinker. If it hasn't been removed by moderation or deemed illegal, then it seems that there is some serious thought put into this resolution. You don't wish to consider due to its simplicity. Overlook that, even for a second, and as a consequentalist, you'll understand the effectiveness of it all.

I bet you will jump the bandwagon on any terrible proposals like this one. You have to know this doesn't meet any SC standards in what is well-written and what isn't.
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Postby Monkchester » Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:11 pm

My telegrams are still in queue. Once they are ready, we will turn this vote around.
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Postby Ohpistan » Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:11 pm

Hiram Land wrote:
Ohpistan wrote:I'm a free thinker. If it hasn't been removed by moderation or deemed illegal, then it seems that there is some serious thought put into this resolution. You don't wish to consider due to its simplicity. Overlook that, even for a second, and as a consequentalist, you'll understand the effectiveness of it all.

Proposals being declared legal is the bare minimum. It means that it hadn't broken any rules, it's not a indicator of whether it's a good proposal or not.

The very idea of 'good' is subjective. Let's take this from an outsider's perspective. What would happen if this resolution were passed? Other than the Communist Bloc being condemned by a resolution authored by a small author (minimal negative impact), it's mainly symbolic. Based on that reasoning, it received my vote.

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Postby Ohpistan » Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:14 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Ohpistan wrote:I'm a free thinker. If it hasn't been removed by moderation or deemed illegal, then it seems that there is some serious thought put into this resolution. You don't wish to consider due to its simplicity. Overlook that, even for a second, and as a consequentalist, you'll understand the effectiveness of it all.

I bet you will jump the bandwagon on any terrible proposals like this one. You have to know this doesn't meet any SC standards in what is well-written and what isn't.

Relax bud, no need to get personal. I follow my ideals, and I am ready to be flexible towards those who are new to SC Resolutions.

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Postby Eumaeus » Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:15 pm

Monkchester wrote:My telegrams are still in queue. Once they are ready, we will turn this vote around.

With your "new, completely legal technique"? Do us all, but mostly yourself, a favor and spare yourself the trouble. As someone who has (foolishly) attempted your "new" technique in the past, what you're doing right now will not have any effect on the outcome of this vote.
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Postby Hiram Land » Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:15 pm

Ohpistan wrote:
Hiram Land wrote:Proposals being declared legal is the bare minimum. It means that it hadn't broken any rules, it's not a indicator of whether it's a good proposal or not.

The very idea of 'good' is subjective. Let's take this from an outsider's perspective. What would happen if this resolution were passed? Other than the Communist Bloc being condemned by a resolution authored by a small author (minimal negative impact), it's mainly symbolic. Based on that reasoning, it received my vote.

For that same reason, a vote against or a non vote would suffice. It'll just give a badge to a region and that's it. The author thought it would cause something beyond that (from looking at their posts it looked like he implied such) and frankly it's just a piece of code. A condemnation is worthless frankly and I rather waste my time voting against.
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Postby Drew Durrnil » Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:16 pm

This proposal is on track for beating the record of most hated proposal on vote. Many large delegates such as Zukchiva, IA, and McMasterdonia still haven't voted yet.
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