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The Greater Tulsa Area
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Postby The Greater Tulsa Area » Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:53 pm

Ainland wrote:We do not allow men who have had six with men, to give blood within three months of having sex with a man. This is because we know that doing so would increase the chance of HIV-infected blood into the blood supply, even with screening and testing. This is based on sound scientific data. Men who have sex with men, who have not had sex within three months, are perfectly welcome and encouraged to give blood.

HIV can be passed between anyone engaging in unsafe sex. A gay couple is no more likely to get HIV than a straight couple. It would make perfect sense to block anyone who has recently had unsafe sex from donating blood, but only applying this policy to gay men is simply both non-sensible and bigoted.
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Postby Tinhampton » Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:40 pm

Blood Donation Safety and Equality Act was passed 11,380 votes to 4,344.

I take it that the proposal was non-illegal all along?
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Angar
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Postby Angar » Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:51 pm

It's vital that the blood supply remains uncontaminated. Angar agrees that men engaging in homosexual intercourse are more likely to pass HIV. That has been proven statistically. To exclude homosexuals from blood donation would protect against the spread of the disease.

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Postby Drew Durrnil » Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:59 pm

Tinhampton wrote:
Blood Donation Safety and Equality Act was passed 11,380 votes to 4,344.

I take it that the proposal was non-illegal all along?

I think they said that the arguments weren't convincing enough or something. I bet that someone's gonna try to repeal it in the next week or so.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:43 pm

DREW DURRNIL wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:
Blood Donation Safety and Equality Act was passed 11,380 votes to 4,344.

I take it that the proposal was non-illegal all along?

I think they said that the arguments weren't convincing enough or something. I bet that someone's gonna try to repeal it in the next week or so.

There'll be like millions of terrible proposals submitted with only like one or two that are properly drafted on the forums.
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Ainland
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Postby Ainland » Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:14 am

The Greater Tulsa Area wrote:
Ainland wrote:We do not allow men who have had six with men, to give blood within three months of having sex with a man. This is because we know that doing so would increase the chance of HIV-infected blood into the blood supply, even with screening and testing. This is based on sound scientific data. Men who have sex with men, who have not had sex within three months, are perfectly welcome and encouraged to give blood.

HIV can be passed between anyone engaging in unsafe sex. A gay couple is no more likely to get HIV than a straight couple. It would make perfect sense to block anyone who has recently had unsafe sex from donating blood, but only applying this policy to gay men is simply both non-sensible and bigoted.

Like I said, we know that men who have sex with men have a significantly higher chance of having HIV than men who have sex with women and vice versa. This is an unfortunate scientific fact.

Anyone who has unsafe sex could catch HIV. But allowing men who have had sex with men within the past three months, to give blood, would result in a significantly higher chance of HIV entering the blood supply. Despite testing and screening. This is very well researched and studied.

I can't do anything about the fact that this doesn't make sense in your head. But the fact that you are prepared to literally ignore scientific fact, to say that the scientists are simply bigoted and using the blood donation service as an outlet for the homophobic, is staggeringly foolish. To risk the health and life of large numbers of people in this way is really taking this whole angry woke thing to a dangerous level. These people shouldn't be allowed anywhere near politics, let alone science or medicine.

Scientific fact is not bigotry.

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Postby Uueidhhd » Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:43 am

Everyone that does not like it REPEL it NOW it passed.
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Postby Uueidhhd » Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:51 am

DREW DURRNIL wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:
Blood Donation Safety and Equality Act was passed 11,380 votes to 4,344.

I take it that the proposal was non-illegal all along?

I think they said that the arguments weren't convincing enough or something. I bet that someone's gonna try to repeal it in the next week or so.

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Uueidhhd
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Postby Uueidhhd » Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:32 am

Why is no one repelling it. If no one repels it in a week I will repel it.

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Postby Ardiveds » Fri Apr 02, 2021 9:02 am

Ainland wrote:
The Greater Tulsa Area wrote:
HIV can be passed between anyone engaging in unsafe sex. A gay couple is no more likely to get HIV than a straight couple. It would make perfect sense to block anyone who has recently had unsafe sex from donating blood, but only applying this policy to gay men is simply both non-sensible and bigoted.

Like I said, we know that men who have sex with men have a significantly higher chance of having HIV than men who have sex with women and vice versa. This is an unfortunate scientific fact.

Anyone who has unsafe sex could catch HIV. But allowing men who have had sex with men within the past three months, to give blood, would result in a significantly higher chance of HIV entering the blood supply. Despite testing and screening. This is very well researched and studied.

I can't do anything about the fact that this doesn't make sense in your head. But the fact that you are prepared to literally ignore scientific fact, to say that the scientists are simply bigoted and using the blood donation service as an outlet for the homophobic, is staggeringly foolish. To risk the health and life of large numbers of people in this way is really taking this whole angry woke thing to a dangerous level. These people shouldn't be allowed anywhere near politics, let alone science or medicine.

Scientific fact is not bigotry.

OOC: Can you please provide some recent sources that support your scientific fact
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Ainland
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Postby Ainland » Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:41 am

Ardiveds wrote:
Ainland wrote:
Like I said, we know that men who have sex with men have a significantly higher chance of having HIV than men who have sex with women and vice versa. This is an unfortunate scientific fact.

Anyone who has unsafe sex could catch HIV. But allowing men who have had sex with men within the past three months, to give blood, would result in a significantly higher chance of HIV entering the blood supply. Despite testing and screening. This is very well researched and studied.

I can't do anything about the fact that this doesn't make sense in your head. But the fact that you are prepared to literally ignore scientific fact, to say that the scientists are simply bigoted and using the blood donation service as an outlet for the homophobic, is staggeringly foolish. To risk the health and life of large numbers of people in this way is really taking this whole angry woke thing to a dangerous level. These people shouldn't be allowed anywhere near politics, let alone science or medicine.

Scientific fact is not bigotry.

OOC: Can you please provide some recent sources that support your scientific fact

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Uueidhhd
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Postby Uueidhhd » Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:35 am

Why is no one repeling it.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:36 am

Uueidhhd wrote:Why is no one repeling it.:(

1. It's "repealing" not "repeling"
2. People have to draft a proper repeal to be looked at by the GA community before it can get the go-ahead.
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Uueidhhd
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Postby Uueidhhd » Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:32 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Uueidhhd wrote:Why is no one repeling it.:(

1. It's "repealing" not "repeling"
2. People have to draft a proper repeal to be looked at by the GA community before it can get the go-ahead.

1.Stop I don’t have time to correct it . 2. I am waiting for a issue . 3 You don’t have to mention it. 4.don’t like waiting.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:38 pm

Uueidhhd wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:1. It's "repealing" not "repeling"
2. People have to draft a proper repeal to be looked at by the GA community before it can get the go-ahead.

1.Stop I don’t have time to correct it . 2. I am waiting for a issue . 3 You don’t have to mention it. 4.don’t like waiting.

Well it's not like proper repeals can be written overnight. Usually, the best WA resolutions take a while, even months to properly write and get community feedback.
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Crowheim
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Postby Crowheim » Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:22 pm

The amount of misunderstandings here, either with WA proceedings or the risks of unsafe sex, are quite amusing.
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