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by Boston Castle » Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:43 pm
by Boston Castle » Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:33 am
by Imperium Anglorum » Sat Apr 03, 2021 10:36 am
by Boston Castle » Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:30 pm
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Restructure to mandate with exceptions format. Should be one clause.
by Feyrisshire » Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:55 am
b. An organisation may have criminal penalties attached for association with it on the basis that it actively undermines national security, directs its members to violate national criminal law, includes the commission of crimes among its goals or activities, or spreads, or intends to spread, a message of hate directed toward a specific group.
Imperium Anglorum wrote:I don't particularly buy that abolishing one party regimes is an ideological ban. Communism or fascism or whatever you want to place here is not banned merely because you stopped $PARTY from abolishing all other parties.
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by Imperium Anglorum » Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:36 pm
Feyrisshire wrote:Imperium Anglorum wrote:I don't particularly buy that abolishing one party regimes is an ideological ban. Communism or fascism or whatever you want to place here is not banned merely because you stopped $PARTY from abolishing all other parties.
OOC: Single-party regimes, under Marxism-Leninism and etc. are justified under the concept of vanguardism. This was the same framework used by Marxist-Leninist regimes to outlaw opposition parties. So, yes, abolishing one party regimes would violate the ideological ban.
by Bananaistan » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:16 pm
by Vrijstaat Limburg » Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:55 pm
b.An organisation may have criminal penalties attached for association with it on the basis that it actively undermines national security, directs its members to violate national criminal law, includes the commission of crimes among its goals or activities, or spreads, or intends to spread, a message of hate directed toward a specific group.
by North Supreria » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:12 am
Vrijstaat Limburg wrote:Our final concern is the vague wording of the last clause; this bill shall not bear the political weight one could hope it to do, for nations can abuse the indeterminate excuse of national security and hate speech as a loophole in the legislation, allowing nations to continue their suppression of said groups, and shall thus, theoretically, defend freedom of association just as much as it shall improve the lives of ordinary citizens, which, to summarize: It shall not.
by Magiclands » Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:10 am
by Scalizagasti » Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:40 am
by Calamari Lands » Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:43 am
North Supreria wrote:Vrijstaat Limburg wrote:Our final concern is the vague wording of the last clause; this bill shall not bear the political weight one could hope it to do, for nations can abuse the indeterminate excuse of national security and hate speech as a loophole in the legislation, allowing nations to continue their suppression of said groups, and shall thus, theoretically, defend freedom of association just as much as it shall improve the lives of ordinary citizens, which, to summarize: It shall not.
North Supreria has the same concerns as the ambassador of Vrijstaat Limburg and we are not convinced that the last clause will prevent abuse and we are concerned that the current proposal will not achieve its original goal.
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by Tinhampton » Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:10 pm
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by Tinhampton » Sat Apr 17, 2021 9:01 pm
by Boston Castle » Sat Apr 17, 2021 9:08 pm
Tinhampton wrote:Freedom Of Association was passed 10,882 votes to 4,209.
It appears that the title of this thread was never amended to reflect the capitalisation of the second "o" in the title... not ideal but also not as bad as the fact that the title for the formerly at-vote Right to Farm thread from 2019 continues to refer to a proposal called Freedom to Farm, to BC's creditFor: 10,882: McMasterdonia (1,152), Beepee (707), Imperium Anglorum (381), Wischland (330), North East Somerset (252), Primorye Oblast (226), Chimes (199), Narvatus (153), You Should See Me in a Crown (135), Ruinenlust (116), Brototh (109), Josephtan (98), Veyoris (78), Stephenese Republic (74), Paleocacher (72), Courelli (64), Enlais (63), Mikeswill (54), Octal (49), JayDee II (48), Madison and Wisconsin (47), Carrico (43), Dabberwocky (41), Zyris (39), Yodle (38), Candensia (38), Karteria (33), Particle (33), Parkplace (32), Swiftlandian Peoples Republic (31), LollerLand (30), Seludong (29), Panther (26), Rangers of the Grey (26), Lunar Martian Alliance (26), Tostandia (24), Orioni 2 (23), Demon Havens (21), Suter (21), Ecclestia (20), Thee Imperium 0f Man (20), Tomisburg (18), Mellyland (16), Anarimistan (16), Volkerben (15), Valerity (15), Red Green and Black (15), Boris Cult (15), Franche Comte (14), Isaris (14), Martinilinian (13), Castelia (12), East overworld (12), Otaku Stratus (12), Ioavollr (12), Novum Orientis (12), Baloo Kingdom (12), Candanadium (12), Axorian (11), Owswaldia (11), Hydroponic Nation (11), Sedseria (11), Sail Nation (11), Meshakhad (11), The New North Republic (11), Kustonia (10), J-O-E (10), Hylia (10), Orca and Narwhal (10), Draganisia (10), Zamastan (10), The Sheika (10), The Union of Costa Rica (10), Ethwelistan (9), Fangalist Poland (9), The Hard Part (9), New Luciannova (9), CoraSpia (9), Halcyon Nova (9), The Soviet state of Svalbard (9), Santa Thereza (9), Lamoni (8), Gladys and the drowning fish (8), Naboo Isle (8), Koxor (8), Sartell Koltis (8), Auspicious Skies (8), Vaarland (8), Northern Frost (8), The Flyin (8), Draavida (8), Auxorii (8), Lushie (7), Browzantine (7), OmegaShenron (7), Zadiner (7), Yermaney (7), The Greater China (7), Orennica (7), Atlantian Oceania (7), Ospeia (6), Omniabstracta (6), The Yellow Emperor (6), Arsonedland (6), Lock and Key (6), The Regalian Underland (6), Romanian Sultanate (6), Scenixia (6), Kalin Oblast (6), Muzztopia (6), Shinomiya (6), Khavar-Niscea (5), Aldrest (5), Wristopolis (5), Italia Moralista (5), Aelythium (5), Lesbian Piraters (5), Golanchia (5), SkillCrossbones (5), Libonesia (5), Haruhi Japan (5), Halexandria (5), Alistia (5), New Delfos (5), Frontier Isles (5), Contrai (5), Auruna (5), Wadelhelpia (5), FORKTASTICSTAN (5), Cynetia (5), Reultan (5), Deskoslovakia (5), Great Kalimalang (4), Environmental Support (4), Resiliency (4), SFR Philippines (4), Jacobopolus (4), Nekomimea (4), Spectral Empire (4), Chairman Cities (4), Bollonich (4), Shnookle (4), Montquebec (4), San Teodoro de Haro (4), Republic of Dixie (4), Wabacha (4), Horden (4), Ariosa (4), Ben Kenobi (4), Smiley Bob (4), Delia Viala (4), Celele (4), Denathor (4), Cavisco (4), Creator Land (4), Chap Ven (4), Barak Khalad (4), Harkagrad (4), People of Phoenix (4), Fritzentein (4), Libertarian Communist Planets (4), Anarchistic SA (3), Natsu Dragneel (3), Greenkeep (3), Imperial Felchah (3), Molopovia (3), Groot (3), Guirkeny (3), North Carve (3), OceanicGaze (3), Catboy Ethnostate (3), The Democratic Legion (3), Flor-Fina (3), Beazlend (3), Galtin (3), The Anarchist Federation of Spain (3), Akhom (3), Samogitias (3), Yjlom (3), Stedinia (3), The Neolithic German Empire (3), Britopio (3), Ravenstan (3), Regunalia (3), Merulla (3), Lillistroniralocksne (3), Candleshoe (3), Novus Greater Britannia (3), Felistia (3), Opiachus (3), Tirnot (3), Cordonshur (3), Wellfield Confederation (3), Zythium (3), Rusaka the second (3), Marlida (3), Sedgistan (3), Chundukeratopia (2), Etoile Arcture (2), Los Banditos (2), Zarnath 2 (2), The Akasha Colony (2), Powerful companies (2), Arkti (2), United Dependencies (2), Opalium (2), New Technocratic Prussia (2), Neuham (2), Bilicalan Kuwa (2), Silver-Tree (2), Przeginia (2), Shnrubton (2), Minskiev (2), GloriousPCMasterRace (2), Central Protectorate of Alkoholi (2), SHREKWAZOWSKI The lll (2), The Syndicate arnarcist (2), Apollor (2), Chudwick (2), Veldar (2), Korwinostan (2), Newmansisland (2), Some People on Planet Arcadia (2), Mercia Regnum (2), Qoth (2), Joeyist Union (2), Mengbilla (2), Atlanssia (2), Eaglenest (2), Lippoy (2), Lesbicas (2), The-big-bang-theory (2), Brite Sparkling Under Garments (2), Mallandia (2), FarmerGroot (2), Valkovia (2), KingT (2), Nuxils (2), Moonssia (2), Zarnicovia nova (2), Infusvia (2), Benevolent 1 (2), The Age of Utopia (2), Zomellia-Scorsia (2), The United Island Chain of the Pacific (2), Great Nania (2), Apache Pass (2), Kimidayo (2), New Age Society (2), Camo Uslavae (2), Hoshido and Nohr (2), Dinaris (2), Batavia Raya (2), North Sonovia (2), Voterland (2), Boku no Pica (2), Saganye (2), Yugandastan (2), Stremia (2), The Ancient World (2), Pardiamor (2), Nasset (2), Langenia (2), East Lermany (2), Battery Citadel (2), Italian Community (2), Malvator (2), Sufferlandia (2), Southeast Ossetia (2), North Power (2), 11 Templar Knights (2), The Sovereign United States of Drip (2), Greater Eireann (2), New Megaton (2), Free Economic Zone Of Rapture (2), Wirebrush (2), The Soviet Onions and the Baltics (2), Tvrtkovija (2), Molson Iceland (2), Zolotaya Sobaka (2), Zombiedolphins (2), Zizzland (2), Fortye (2), Omnia II (2), Hannsilien (2), Lebrea (2), Wolflandil (2), Conservativealia (2), Rockwell-Stonehenge (2), Helmshire (2), The Pop Punk Union (2), and (4,690) individual member nations.
Against: 4,209: Zukchiva (701), Dilber (540), Kethania (362), Duby (123), Lesser Velutaria (115), ShrewLlamaLand (108), Bearded Dragones (73), TESDAI (70), Sylh Alanor (63), Nulkia (58), Indusse (34), West Phoenicia (24), NewTexas (23), Alcala-Cordel (22), Bassiliya (20), Oi Barbaroi (18), Greater Cuba (15), One Small Island (15), Tinhampton (14), Mundanus (13), The Luck of Jirachi (13), Grand Empire of Prussia (13), Vegaga (12), Barroetenstein (10), Greater Zhanland (9), The Voltarum (9), Cruciland (9), Gatchina (8), Brocklandia (8), Dossiny (8), Greater Cesnica (7), GoodKingWenceslas (7), Pitbull (6), Binguwustan (6), Wobbegong (6), Dushkaria (6), Chodean Kal (6), Matonis (5), Ur-Noxia (5), Jedingtown (5), Thermodolia (5), Winfallow (5), Calamari Lands (5), Madrocea (5), Communist Jones (5), Sietsk (4), The Onionist Socialist Randos (4), Oppy Gasai (4), Grana-Nissa (4), Maurocco (4), Jambhu (4), The Palentine (4), Ravko (4), Terra Gloria Sanctus (4), Thialrer (3), Sad Women (3), MEME Pire (3), Ayylmao69420 (3), The States of France (3), Lamebrainia (3), Communo-Slavocia (3), Suvmia (3), Hacranester (3), Bandst Sipsianthordia (3), Kleinekatzen (3), North Aqusomia (3), Fukistrania (3), Kinkerland (3), AlgerianCommune (3), Lacontone (3), Unbridled Mediocrity (3), Terra Fratris (3), Mooseland12 (3), Friimark (3), North Supreria (3), Xenhe Lous (2), Keursa (2), Yuapian (2), Boarder Princes (2), ErykCarrillo (2), Littjara (2), Carstvie (2), New Mordka (2), United States of Europe- (2), Nopengie (2), The deepest part of hell (2), Lacmhacarh (2), Doofstonian (2), Very totally free (2), Catgirls and Femboys (2), Saint Archaeo (2), Masonolixia (2), Vanra (2), Chuliu Emperor (2), The Glorious Nation Texas (2), The Eurasian SFSR (2), Republic of Blank (2), Civil Libertee (2), Independent Alignments (2), Adeiatic (2), Polish Commune (2), 1-502nd Airborne Inf (2), and (1,462) individual member nations.
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