[PASSED] Liberate The Embassy

[Varanius]

And I’m sure it’s very well liked in said backwaters. And in regards to “a region being destroyed”...please. It has a single “native” in it. The only thing being “saved” is a few embassies of nowhere regions who will probably be just find making an embassy with some other embassy collector. There’s hardly anything to be destroyed.

Why does it not surprise me that you consider the entire NS community (except you and your buddies, I imagine) "backwaters"?

Sometimes reality is very unsurprising!

[Virgolia]

I think there is more outrage about The Embassy getting raided that there would be if TWP ever got deleted tbh

To save myself some time, I’ll just repeat myself:

The only thing you’ve proven with this post is that you have no idea what’s happening in the wider NS world, and want everyone to know it.

(You know it's true you just don't want to accept it)

Anyways if The Embassy is widely disliked then the proposal simply won't pass, I see there is quite a few people that want to see the region liberated (I personally don't care) so I think it would be good if this proposal reaches votes and it's up to the WA to decide

[Refuge Isle]

Every fascist region with a lot of embassies is well liked, among fascists. The Embassy's embassies were with the broader interregional community, which is not fascist. What is this argument, and how did you think it actually supports letting a region be destroyed?

And I’m sure it’s very well liked in said backwaters. And in regards to “a region being destroyed”...please. It has a single “native” in it. The only thing being “saved” is a few embassies of nowhere regions who will probably be just find making an embassy with some other embassy collector. There’s hardly anything to be destroyed.

Your use of the phrase "backwaters" has not historically been beneficial to you.

Just because a region has no value to you, personally, does not mean that it does not have value to the people who use it and interact with it. They have the personal agency live in those spaces just as you in yours. That TWP is larger grants additional security, but does not grant additional right to exist.

[Varanius]

Your use of the phrase "backwaters" has not historically been beneficial to you.

Thank you for telling me what’s historically not been beneficial for me. What would do without?

[Frenchy II]

At this rate I should write a proposal and submit it!

[Outer Sparta]

At this rate I should write a proposal and submit it!

(Image)

You'll definitely get a flurry of approvals and soon it will reach quorom in no time!

[Honeydewistania]

HS I love ya but... I am utterly unconviced that the Embassy will get locked down and cleared. By having this liberation the Embassy will just become a target for tag raiders for years to come. Sorry, against.

[Refuge Isle]

HS I love ya but... I am utterly unconviced that the Embassy will get locked down and cleared. By having this liberation the Embassy will just become a target for tag raiders for years to come. Sorry, against.

Odd statement to make considering that SECFanatics is just that. The Embassy may have more love from the people who used their RMB to talk to one another, but that has no value in the world of raiding.

Having a persistent liberation would make for a persistent raid target, yes, but a long-term liberation is not necessary for The Embassy to do what it wants do. There is no reason for this liberation to remain after the raiding force is expelled.

[Honeydewistania]

HS I love ya but... I am utterly unconviced that the Embassy will get locked down and cleared. By having this liberation the Embassy will just become a target for tag raiders for years to come. Sorry, against.

Odd statement to make considering that SECFanatics is just that. The Embassy may have more love from the people who used their RMB to talk to one another, but that has no value in the world of raiding.

Having a persistent liberation would make for a persistent raid target, yes, but a long-term liberation is not necessary for The Embassy to do what it wants do. There is no reason for this liberation to remain after the raiding force is expelled.

You make an excellent point, Luca. I think I'm supporting this now.

[Sorianora]

original proposal is down, I had shitty writing and rushed it, should have used forums, and unfortunately, I rushed using telegram stamps on it.


supported

[Varanius]

original proposal is down, I had shitty writing and rushed it, should have used forums, and unfortunately, I rushed using telegram stamps on it.


supported

But then who will save us from the Lone Wolfs?

[Noahs Second Country]

original proposal is down, I had shitty writing and rushed it, should have used forums, and unfortunately, I rushed using telegram stamps on it.


supported

But then who will save us from the Lone Wolfs?

Really?

Your comment provides absolutely nothing to the conversation and is exactly why people call the SC elitist and uninviting.

People make mistakes, and Sorianora apologized for doing so. Rubbing such mistakes in their face does nothing. I don't know why this comment frustrates me, but it does.

[Varanius]

But then who will save us from the Lone Wolfs?

Really?

Your comment provides absolutely nothing to the conversation and is exactly why people call the SC elitist and uninviting.

People make mistakes, and Sorianora apologized for doing so. Rubbing such mistakes in their face does nothing. I don't know why this comment frustrates me, but it does.

Yeah this is what makes the SC uninviting. The occasional odd comment from Vara about half-baked proposals in the occasional thread. That’s what it is.

[Honeydewistania]

Really?

Your comment provides absolutely nothing to the conversation and is exactly why people call the SC elitist and uninviting.

People make mistakes, and Sorianora apologized for doing so. Rubbing such mistakes in their face does nothing. I don't know why this comment frustrates me, but it does.

Yeah this is what makes the SC uninviting. The occasional odd comment from Vara about half-baked proposals in the occasional thread. That’s what it is.

You're still being obnoxious though.

[Noahs Second Country]

Yeah this is what makes the SC uninviting. The occasional odd comment from Vara about half-baked proposals in the occasional thread. That’s what it is.

To a certain extent, yes.

Unsurprisingly, if you shame an author for no reason, they are much less likely to try again in the future. This is probably a conversation to be had elsewhere though.

[Varanius]

Yeah this is what makes the SC uninviting. The occasional odd comment from Vara about half-baked proposals in the occasional thread. That’s what it is.

You're still being obnoxious though.

I’ll be sure to take your comment into deep consideration. After all, your feedback is very important to us, and we make sure to do our absolute best to adjust our services to fit the needs of all of our partners and customers.

[HumanSanity]

I have confirmation of native support. They volunteered to stop by the thread to confirm that support and hopefully will do so soon.

[Drew Durrnil]

I have confirmation of native support. They volunteered to stop by the thread to confirm that support and hopefully will do so soon.

Tag the title as "reaching Quorum"

[Honeydewistania]

I have confirmation of native support. They volunteered to stop by the thread to confirm that support and hopefully will do so soon.

Tag the title as "reaching Quorum"

It’s in quorum

[Sidoneia]

Wowwee, this is a heartbreaking development! Would it help if I sold you the password?

[Outer Sparta]

I have confirmation of native support. They volunteered to stop by the thread to confirm that support and hopefully will do so soon.

How much native support though?

[A Goblinoid Merchant]

Hi guys!

Here the last native of The Embassy.

Honestly, I don't have the time to read through anything and I don't have a very good understanding for the dynamics around SC liberations but if it helps the decision making I make a statement here:

1. I don't want The Embassy to be refounded by anybody. Not even by myself. (I think I kinda had the chance once or twice).

2. I know that The Ambassadors Reception has/had as well no interest in a refounded region. (From the start, we totally agreed regarding this topic).

3. I hope that The Embassy will have a chance to restart / continue what the original founder had in mind and what The Ambassadors Reception developed to such a unique and lovely thing over the last few years.

Thus, I think I should endorse a SC liberation of The Embassy. If it happens that I get back the delegacy before a SC liberation passes, cancelling it somehow would probably be preferable, right?

I know that I currently depend on the great work of defenders but I would love if raiders and defenders and all other players would be cool with each other and take The Embassy as an opportunity to have some fun together and maybe enable (maybe even further support) a rebuild with open mind for potential cooperations and without any hard feelings involved. That would be great and within the spirit of the whole idea behind The Embassy. Unite the whole NationStates community!
I know, I'm naive : )

I'm sorry for the harm caused from my side and I hope all what happens currently with The Embassy remains in good spirits.

Thank you all for your efforts!

Have fun!

[Outer Sparta]

Ultimately decided to vote against. I just don't see enough value of The Embassy other than just an embassy collecting region to warrant a liberation.

[Eshialand]

Ultimately decided to vote against. I just don't see enough value of The Embassy other than just an embassy collecting region to warrant a liberation.

The point of The Embassy isn't just collecting embassies. Put yourself in the shoes of someone in a very small region. You'd like to have a nice community of people to talk to on NS, but your region isn't very big and the people who are there aren't that active.

The point of The Embassy is to give that nation in that region that I just described an active RMB to chat in when their region's just isn't enough. NS needs regions like this to foster interregional communication.

[The Democratic Nation of Unovia]

As a member of the leadership of New World Union, we support this resolution. We have held an embassy with them for over 5 Years, our 6th longest Embassy.
As Minister of Foreign Affairs for New World Union, we are also looking for members of The Embassy and their Government. Any clue on where they are?