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Liberty and Unity
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Postby Liberty and Unity » Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:40 am

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Straona wrote:Where is evidence of anyone in NS let alone IRL doing what you just described? You’re calling me naive but you don’t even give me evidence. You know how stupid that sounds? Why would somebody conscript a criminal then execute them? That’s a waste of resources and soldiers.

Ooc: specifically to evade the prior law that banned execution of civilians.

Also, Separatist People's is a good Ambassador. He needs to stay as Ambassador and should actually get a promotion if he can get one.

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Postby Liberty and Unity » Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:41 am

Jedinsto wrote:
Liberty and Unity wrote:Welp, I hope that someone eventually repeals the Military Death Penalty ban, because I'm still going to enforce Capital Punishment to professionally deal with terrorists, mass murderers and pedophiles, as all of them deserve to die as they are not worthy of life

"Enjoy the harsh sanctions to be imposed on your non-complying nation, ambassador."

So your going to put sanctions on me for giving people who deserve to die what they deserve?

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Postby Jedinsto » Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:44 am

Liberty and Unity wrote:
Jedinsto wrote:"Enjoy the harsh sanctions to be imposed on your non-complying nation, ambassador."

So your going to put sanctions on me for giving people who deserve to die what they deserve?

"Yes, actually, take that up with the compliance commission."

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Postby Liberty and Unity » Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:46 am

Jedinsto wrote:
Liberty and Unity wrote:So your going to put sanctions on me for giving people who deserve to die what they deserve?

"Yes, actually, take that up with the compliance commission."

Well, what is your stance on the Death Penalty.
My stance is that some people do not deserve to live. Once someone acts upon their pedophile and/or murderous urges, they forfeit their right to live.

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Postby Drew Durrnil » Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:47 am

Jedinsto wrote:
Liberty and Unity wrote:So your going to put sanctions on me for giving people who deserve to die what they deserve?

"Yes, actually, take that up with the compliance commission."

"So, we shouldn't kill a tyrant that has ruled a country that has killed millions of people in genocide?"
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Postby Jedinsto » Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:49 am

Liberty and Unity wrote:
Jedinsto wrote:"Yes, actually, take that up with the compliance commission."

Well, what is your stance on the Death Penalty.
My stance is that some people do not deserve to live. Once someone acts upon their pedophile and/or murderous urges, they forfeit their right to live.

"Exactly my stance. However I can't control how the death penalty is used in other nations. Hell, I can't control how it's used here either, I'm just an ambassador. What I can do is support a bill to ban it entirely to prevent these loopholes that will always be found to execute those who don't deserve it."

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Postby Liberty and Unity » Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:51 am

Drew Durrnil wrote:
Jedinsto wrote:"Yes, actually, take that up with the compliance commission."

"So, we shouldn't kill a tyrant that has ruled a country that has killed millions of people in genocide?"

Exactly. We should also kill pedophiles, mass murderers, genocidal leaders, all dictators, terrorists, rapists, human sex traffickers child murderers, and kidnappers
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Postby Liberty and Unity » Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:52 am

Jedinsto wrote:
Liberty and Unity wrote:Well, what is your stance on the Death Penalty.
My stance is that some people do not deserve to live. Once someone acts upon their pedophile and/or murderous urges, they forfeit their right to live.

"Exactly my stance. However I can't control how the death penalty is used in other nations. Hell, I can't control how it's used here either, I'm just an ambassador. What I can do is support a bill to ban it entirely to prevent these loopholes that will always be found to execute those who don't deserve it."

So basically you support what the Death Penalty was created for but you don't like the risks it holds?

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Postby Jedinsto » Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:55 am

Liberty and Unity wrote:
Jedinsto wrote:"Exactly my stance. However I can't control how the death penalty is used in other nations. Hell, I can't control how it's used here either, I'm just an ambassador. What I can do is support a bill to ban it entirely to prevent these loopholes that will always be found to execute those who don't deserve it."

So basically you support what the Death Penalty was created for but you don't like the risks it holds?

"If it could be heavily regulated in my nation, I had no say in the laws of other nations, then I would support it. However, that's not the case."

OOC: I support the death penalty IRL, however I think the judicial system needs a serious overhaul at least in the US. Again, for the purposes of the WA, I fully supported this resolution.

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Postby Straona » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:04 am

Jedinsto wrote:
Liberty and Unity wrote:Welp, I hope that someone eventually repeals the Military Death Penalty ban, because I'm still going to enforce Capital Punishment to professionally deal with terrorists, mass murderers and pedophiles, as all of them deserve to die as they are not worthy of life

"Enjoy the harsh sanctions to be imposed on your non-complying nation, ambassador."

Most nations can afford to deal with the sanctions of this sham law ambassador. Myself included.

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:47 am

Straona wrote:
Jedinsto wrote:"Enjoy the harsh sanctions to be imposed on your non-complying nation, ambassador."

Most nations can afford to deal with the sanctions of this sham law ambassador. Myself included.

Ooc: probably not. The San tions are specifically designed to be coercive. They aren't based just on offense, they are meant to bring a government to its knees to relieve the financial, economic, and political pressure. I know, I wrote the law with IA.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Mar 29, 2021 11:10 am

Liberty and Unity wrote:Welp, I hope that someone eventually repeals the Military Death Penalty ban, because I'm still going to enforce Capital Punishment to professionally deal with terrorists, mass murderers and pedophiles, as all of them deserve to die as they are not worthy of life

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Postby Straona » Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:23 am

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Straona wrote:Most nations can afford to deal with the sanctions of this sham law ambassador. Myself included.

Ooc: probably not. The San tions are specifically designed to be coercive. They aren't based just on offense, they are meant to bring a government to its knees to relieve the financial, economic, and political pressure. I know, I wrote the law with IA.

Eh most will find a way to survive a sanction. Hell most nations do well outside the WA but some have to join it due to certain requirements in regions such as only WA members getting to participate in certain aspects of region rp. I was one of those people

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:26 pm

Straona wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:Ooc: probably not. The San tions are specifically designed to be coercive. They aren't based just on offense, they are meant to bring a government to its knees to relieve the financial, economic, and political pressure. I know, I wrote the law with IA.

Eh most will find a way to survive a sanction. Hell most nations do well outside the WA but some have to join it due to certain requirements in regions such as only WA members getting to participate in certain aspects of region rp. I was one of those people

Ooc: if your nation is essentially north Korea, then great. Otherwise, role-playing ignorance of such sanctions in the WA is considered godmodding.

Further, if you won't adhere to the laws set by the WA, why should those of us who do give a shit about your objection?

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Postby Straona » Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:43 am

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Straona wrote:Eh most will find a way to survive a sanction. Hell most nations do well outside the WA but some have to join it due to certain requirements in regions such as only WA members getting to participate in certain aspects of region rp. I was one of those people

Ooc: if your nation is essentially north Korea, then great. Otherwise, role-playing ignorance of such sanctions in the WA is considered godmodding.

Further, if you won't adhere to the laws set by the WA, why should those of us who do give a shit about your objection?

You people don’t give a shit about people’s objections regardless so I don’t give a flying &$#* about what you think about this. Also who would stop people from godmodding? People can only control what they themselves do and region leaders can only control those in their regions but most let people do whatever they want

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:46 am

Straona wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:Ooc: if your nation is essentially north Korea, then great. Otherwise, role-playing ignorance of such sanctions in the WA is considered godmodding.

Further, if you won't adhere to the laws set by the WA, why should those of us who do give a shit about your objection?

You people don’t give a shit about people’s objections regardless so I don’t give a flying &$#* about what you think about this. Also who would stop people from godmodding? People can only control what they themselves do and region leaders can only control those in their regions but most let people do whatever they want

Ooc: sure we do. We always care about objections. We especially care when it affects the vote. Your side didn't.

Godmodding in the GA is like Godmodding in II. It ensures nobody wants to interact with you and gets you laughed at and discounted. Repeated Godmodding can be considered spamming or possibly trolling.

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Postby COOPDAWGG » Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:32 pm

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