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by The Python » Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:04 pm
by Scalizagasti » Tue Mar 23, 2021 7:49 pm
by Great Algerstonia » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:05 pm
Resilient Acceleration wrote:After a period of letting this discussion run its course without my involvement due to sheer laziness and a new related NS project, I have returned with an answer and that answer is Israel.
by Straona » Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:13 am
by Straona » Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:20 am
by Straona » Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:24 am
Scalizagasti wrote:"We fully support this resolution. It is time that the death penalty was fully abolished, once and for all. The facts are clear about the death penalty and its inefficacy: it is overly expensive, it does not deter crime, it does not give victims a sense of justice, it is prone to mistakes due to flawed judicial systems, and it harms minority groups. While Death Penalty Ban prohibited the majority of death penalty instances, this resolution will take the final step to get rid of the death penalty in the exceptions outlined by Death Penalty Ban."
by Imperium Anglorum » Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:36 pm
Straona wrote:OOC: Jesus Christ on the Heavenly Cross you guys just don’t stop. You guys tried this crap already. You’re already infringing on some people’s culture (honor killing), certain nations policies (death penalty outside of the military), now you want to do it again for the military? What’s the phrase? “Give them an inch and they’ll demand a mile” or something like that? Ehh you know what I mean.
by Nepleslia » Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:55 pm
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Straona wrote:OOC: Jesus Christ on the Heavenly Cross you guys just don’t stop. You guys tried this crap already. You’re already infringing on some people’s culture (honor killing), certain nations policies (death penalty outside of the military), now you want to do it again for the military? What’s the phrase? “Give them an inch and they’ll demand a mile” or something like that? Ehh you know what I mean.
Maybe those who aren't 'you guys' should just start winning more votes.
by Junitaki-cho » Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:11 pm
by Crowheim » Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:24 pm
Straona wrote:OOC: Jesus Christ on the Heavenly Cross you guys just don’t stop. You guys tried this crap already. You’re already infringing on some people’s culture (honor killing), certain nations policies (death penalty outside of the military), now you want to do it again for the military? What’s the phrase? “Give them an inch and they’ll demand a mile” or something like that? Ehh you know what I mean.
by Imperium Anglorum » Wed Mar 24, 2021 6:09 pm
Junitaki-cho wrote:I wish I'd been able to evaluate the current version of this sooner, but I've barely been able to view the site the last couple days. I strongly support the idea of a death penalty ban and applaud the effort. However, I have serious misgivings about clause 3 of this proposal. Leaving the door open for extradition to death penalty nations is asking for all kinds of abuse. Nations could extradite prisoners and have a written contract with the receiving country, but a wink-nudge agreement that the contract will not be enforced and the prisoner disappeared. There's no provisions in here for a breach of contract either, and so no checks on this practice. I want to approve a ban, I really do, but I can't recommend in favour of this with the current loopholes.
by Junitaki-cho » Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:12 pm
by Separatist Peoples » Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:13 am
by Mitte Harchilania » Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:54 am
by Feyrisshire » Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:59 am
Junitaki-cho wrote:GAR#84 does address one part of this, and I appreciate your pointing it out, but doesn't rule out the receiving country simply disregarding the contract. GAR#443 does deal with this nicely, but I can't help but be concerned about the upcoming repeal attempts and what that would mean having this on the books. It's a troubling implication to sign into law even if it's currently inert.
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by Straona » Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:48 am
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Straona wrote:OOC: Jesus Christ on the Heavenly Cross you guys just don’t stop. You guys tried this crap already. You’re already infringing on some people’s culture (honor killing), certain nations policies (death penalty outside of the military), now you want to do it again for the military? What’s the phrase? “Give them an inch and they’ll demand a mile” or something like that? Ehh you know what I mean.
Maybe those who aren't 'you guys' should just start winning more votes.
by Straona » Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:54 am
Lib Reich wrote:Full Support. I cannot believe that in this day and age that the state has the power to take someone's life.
by Mitte Harchilania » Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:57 am
by Liberty and Unity » Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:36 am
by Liberty and Unity » Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:38 am
Lib Reich wrote:Full Support. I cannot believe that in this day and age that the state has the power to take someone's life.
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