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Retired WerePenguins wrote:There seems to be an implicit assumption that employment is continual and perpetual but that is not the case in the resolution, "a 'worker' as any individual bound by a contract ..."

The full definition in the proposal is "a 'worker' [is] any individual bound by a contract to perform work or services for an employer, whose employment contract mandates the work or services be performed specifically by that worker, involves an obligation for the worker to perform work and the employer to provide it, and implies the employer having some degree of control over the manner in which the work is performed." The last part is important; this is the common-law test, and is used to distinguish employment relationships by the US IRS and other agencies.

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OOC: Good to see you back buddy. Hope all is well.

Cretox State wrote:The full definition in the proposal is "a 'worker' [is] any individual bound by a contract to perform work or services for an employer, whose employment contract mandates the work or services be performed specifically by that worker, involves an obligation for the worker to perform work and the employer to provide it, and implies the employer having some degree of control over the manner in which the work is performed." The last part is important; this is the common-law test, and is used to distinguish employment relationships by the US IRS and other agencies.

OOC: The problem isn't workers vs contractors, it's employees on time limited contracts. These are a thing IRL and are often used to temporarily replace an employee on leave. I don't know what they are referred to in other countries but in UK and Ireland they're generally called "contract jobs". EG: https://www.irishjobs.ie/Jobs/HRIS-Anal ... 31066.aspx

Bananaistan wrote:OOC: Good to see you back buddy. Hope all is well.

Let's just say that 2020 has and continues to be an interesting year.

Bananaistan wrote:OOC: The problem isn't workers vs contractors, it's employees on time limited contracts. These are a thing IRL and are often used to temporarily replace an employee on leave. I don't know what they are referred to in other countries but in UK and Ireland they're generally called "contract jobs". EG: https://www.irishjobs.ie/Jobs/HRIS-Anal ... 31066.aspx

That's my point but since this also includes positions that are only filled within a certain time period (the census example I gave was the best because if you miss that window then there isn't another work window for another ten years) where a significant portion of that period being spend on "paid leave" would be a significant hardship for the employer. Ideally the "contract" needs to either be open ended or for a duration significantly greater than that of the potential paid leave period. That is made harder by having that paid period itself be open ended.

It's a fair concern. Though in that case, those people would not be covered under this resolution's definition.

Protected Working Leave was passed 12,324 votes to 2,954.

Well done

Congratulations!

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North American Imperial State wrote:Protected Working Leave was passed 12,324 votes to 2,954.

Well done

What a momentous occasion, Cretox crashing economies (again)