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Long overdue , please leave relevant critiques (besides Fash bashing is actually fascist rhetoric etc)

Made with help from Sargon Reman

Commend Vippertooth33

The Security Council,

Acknowledging Vippertooth33 as a nation committed to using military tactics to vanquish the fascist plague from the universe,

Impressed by the special tactics and dedication employed by Vippertooth33 to achieve their goals over the last seventeen years, including but not limited to:

• convincing the Nazi founder of White Aryan Resistance to forcibly remove over eighty Nazi nations from their region which handed over control to Vippertooth33, resulting in one of the largest Nazi strongholds at the time being completely destroyed,
  
• secretly controlling a Nazi puppet state in the URAP, Nazi Jason, for over 11 years, which ultimately caused the oldest Nazi region in existence at the time to be permanently annihilated,
  
• leading operations in which they successfully destroyed regions with active founders, such as Fascist and Imperialist Union, a member of the fascist coalition Right Wing Uprising, a great feat that crushed the dreams of numerous fascists,

Recalling that Vippertooth33 managed to mobilize every civilian nation in the Mariner Trench to join the MT Army, so that quenched an enormous Nazi uprising along with the Anti Nazi Alliance, preventing innocent regions from being raided,

Cognizant of the support Vippertooth33 has provided for landmark anti-fascist and anti-Nazi operations, including but not limited to:

• leading the highly acclaimed offensives against the Elite Region of Global Command, the URAP and Project Ragnarok, fascist regions widely detested and despised by a large variety of nations,
  
• serving as a regional officer in the raids against the NSIA, The Iron Confederacy, Viertes Reich and Union of the Fascist Nations, providing vital support in causing these notoriously fascist regions’ demise,
  
• leading the defence of multiple regions, including Empire of Lights, Lebanon and Alliance Against Nazis, preventing them from being defaced and turned into fascist trophy regions,

Pleased with Vippertooth33’s dedication to preserving over a thousand formerly fascist controlled regions such as Anne Frank, ensuring that they did not fall again into fascist hands,

Praising Vippertooth33 for maintaining their home region Mariner Trench, now converted to a civilian region in which new nations are trained by them to fight hateful ideologies,

Inspired by Vippertooth33's ability to organize and unite anti-fascist aligned regions across the international community around principles of common decency and equality, despite long held, military based ideological rivalries which may have ensured that a successful outcome would have not been guaranteed in crucial operations,

Believing the contributions Vippertooth33 has made to the international community should be preserved for the perusal of future generations,

Hereby commends Vippertooth33.

Co-authored by Sargon Reman

Full support!

Honeydewistania wrote:Made with help from Sargon Reman

I assume that he doesn't want recognition as a co-author in the proposal text itself? For the record, you do not need to put "Commend Vippertooth33" at the top of your submitted proposal because the game sets that title automatically.

Tinhampton wrote:

Honeydewistania wrote:Made with help from Sargon Reman

I assume that he doesn't want recognition as a co-author in the proposal text itself? For the record, you do not need to put "Commend Vippertooth33" at the top of your submitted proposal because the game sets that title automatically.

They are deciding if they want to be submitting author or non-submitting co-author. Also, I know about the title, it’s just a preference

Kavagrad wrote:Full support!

Excellent

No idea as to the worthiness of the candidate - Personally, I'm not very convinced by the proposal itself, but that may very well be personal preference.

What I will say is that your formatting is kinda wonky. There's an odd mishmash of commas and semicolons (I recommend going with commas for the SC), and what's more drastic in my opinion is the beginning in ending. As it stands, it reads essentially "The Security Council, [noting all these things], The World Assembly hereby commends Vippertooth33." Mention the body at either the beginning or the end, but not both - at least, not while submitting the proposal as you are, as a list.

Morover wrote:No idea as to the worthiness of the candidate - Personally, I'm not very convinced by the proposal itself, but that may very well be personal preference.

What I will say is that your formatting is kinda wonky. There's an odd mishmash of commas and semicolons (I recommend going with commas for the SC), and what's more drastic in my opinion is the beginning in ending. As it stands, it reads essentially "The Security Council, [noting all these things], The World Assembly hereby commends Vippertooth33." Mention the body at either the beginning or the end, but not both - at least, not while submitting the proposal as you are, as a list.

Will do, thanks

Morover wrote:No idea as to the worthiness of the candidate - Personally, I'm not very convinced by the proposal itself, but that may very well be personal preference.

well if you look at these dispatches maybe it'll help... I dunno though
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=jj_ ... id=1078836
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=jj_ ... id=1078832

I feel like this proposal could use a lot of work. Your first clause reads really oddly, almost so odd I can't figure out what you're trying to say. Also, a lot of the Nazi/Fascist regions you list aren't very well known. It might help to add additional content about why they were important, and why Vippertooth destroying them was such a good thing.

It might be better if you submit it as well Honeydewistania, since you posted the proposal here and you're widely known to be in the same circle as Vippertooth.

I feel a little more detail on why some of these lesser known regions were important is required, but overall it’s a pretty good start.

My personal opinion is that Vippertooth is probably commendable, but you’re going have to do a bit more in the text to sell it to others.

This is an interesting one really. The proposal does need a lot of work. And, I will note we have already passed Commend MT Army, which does indeed mention your nominee within it, which just makes me question whether the proposal is needed when they are listed as being the leader of an organization which the Council has already commended? Just seems slightly bit unneeded. I will note your section in relation to 'The URAP' was also mentioned in the aforementioned proposal.

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:I feel a little more detail on why some of these lesser known regions were important is required, but overall it’s a pretty good start.

My personal opinion is that Vippertooth is probably commendable, but you’re going have to do a bit more in the text to sell it to others.

Working on it

Chimes wrote:This is an interesting one really. The proposal does need a lot of work. And, I will note we have already passed Commend MT Army, which does indeed mention your nominee within it, which just makes me question whether the proposal is needed when they are listed as being the leader of an organization which the Council has already commended? Just seems slightly bit unneeded. I will note your section in relation to 'The URAP' was also mentioned in the aforementioned proposal.

That is true. However Vippertooth is arguably the most important pillar in the anti-fascist community and I feel their dedication to this work for years should not be ignored. Many nations have been commended or condemned for their work in already commended/condemned regions (like Jakker).

Anyways, the clause on the URAP is interesting because while it was listed in Commend The MT Army, Vippertooth had a sleeper for eleven years, which is quite impressive. I’m wondering if it should be omitted from here, I think it shouldn’t but if others feel that way I’ll think about it.

Full support

Quick before the fascist come in!

The Anti Fascism Alliances wrote:Quick before the fascist come in!

Fascists do not have the power in the WA to stop a proposal from passing. Nothing fascists say in this topic will matter in the end.

The Reformed American Republic wrote:

The Anti Fascism Alliances wrote:Quick before the fascist come in!

Fascists do not have the power in the WA to stop a proposal from passing. Nothing fascists say in this topic will matter in the end.

And that’s good.

Honeydewistania wrote:

The Reformed American Republic wrote:Fascists do not have the power in the WA to stop a proposal from passing. Nothing fascists say in this topic will matter in the end.

And that’s good.

Never said it wasn't. My post was a mere observation of fact, not "those poor fascists" or anything like that.

The Reformed American Republic wrote:

Honeydewistania wrote:And that’s good.

Never said it wasn't. My post was a mere observation of fact, not "those poor fascists" or anything like that.

Ah, gotcha

The MT Army was already commended, which is essentially Vippertooth's solo operation. I see no reason why Vipper needs to be commended as well.

Pass.

Wayneactia wrote:The MT Army was already commended, which is essentially Vippertooth's solo operation. I see no reason why Vipper needs to be commended as well.

Pass.

Vippertooth isn’t the only member of the MT Army

Honeydewistania wrote:

Wayneactia wrote:The MT Army was already commended, which is essentially Vippertooth's solo operation. I see no reason why Vipper needs to be commended as well.

Pass.

Vippertooth isn’t the only member of the MT Army

Vippertooth is the primary member. Like I said, the MT Army has basically been commended for all of this.

Wayneactia wrote:

Honeydewistania wrote:Vippertooth isn’t the only member of the MT Army

Vippertooth is the primary member. Like I said, the MT Army has basically been commended for all of this.

Yes, the MT Army was commended for all that. But most of the content in this proposal isn’t mentioned in that one

Some proposed changes:

Acknowledging Vippertooth33 as a nation committed to using military tactics to vanquish the fascist plague of the universe,

Could be altered to:

Acknowledging Vippertooth33 as a nation committed to using military tactics to vanquish the fascist plague from the world,

I might consider world instead of universe. Your choice^

Recalling that Vippertooth33 managed to mobilize every civilian nation in the Mariner Trench to join the MT Army, in which they successfully quenched an enormous Nazi uprising along with the Anti Nazi Alliance, preventing innocent regions from being raided by these menaces,

This clause^ remove: "by these menaces"
That sounds sort of wordy and redundant. They are obviously menaces

And:

leading the greatly hailed offensives against the Elite Region of Global Command, the URAP and Project Ragnarok, a few of the most detestable fascist regions in the world,

Put:

leading the highly acclaimed offensives against the Elite Region of Global Command, the URAP and Project Ragnarok, a few of the most detestable fascist regions in the world,

Also:

Pleased with Vippertooth33’s dedication to preserving over a thousand regions, mostly former regions under fascist control, making sure they don’t fall into fascist hands,

Could be changed to:

Pleased with Vippertooth33’s dedication to preserving over a thousand regions, mostly former regions under fascist control, ensuring that they did not fall into fascist hands,

Finally:

Acknowledging Vippertooth33 for maintaining their home region Mariner Trench, now converted to a civilian region in which new nations are trained by them to fight fascist regions,

Change to:

Acknowledging Vippertooth33 for maintaining their home region Mariner Trench, now converted to a civilian region in which new nations are trained by them to fight the fascist ideology

I think that sums it up.

Planning for a submission on next week’s Saturday or the following week, so leave your comments/suggestions below!

I support.

Tolopel wrote:I support.

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