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Heavens Reach
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Postby Heavens Reach » Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:02 am

Baddlands wrote:
RIHAAM wrote:I see nothing objectionable save the treatment of animals as "non-sapient."
Homocebntrism, eh?
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Animals are not sapient go back to school. #BLOODSPORTSFOREVER #GladiatorsGetPaid


With all due respect, ambassador, it is sufficient, to be defined as animal, for any being, sapient or not, to have a neuronic nervous system.
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Postby Ardiveds » Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:31 am

RIHAAM wrote:I see nothing objectionable save the treatment of animals as "non-sapient."
Homocebntrism, eh?
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Postby Groot » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:35 am

Ardiveds wrote:Ambassador, it is not homocentrism because not all nations here have homo sepiens as their dominant speices.

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Postby Araraukar » Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:35 pm

RIHAAM wrote:I see nothing objectionable save the treatment of animals as "non-sapient."
Homocebntrism, eh?

OOC: No. Sapient-centrism. Just because some animals are sapient, does not mean all animals were sapient, or even that all sapients were animals. (AIs for example, can be sapients, and I literally have a sapient plant hivemind as a side account.) There is a resolution for determining sapiency, on individual basis if necessary, and granting "human rights" to all sapients, not just humans.

You can't get much less human-centrist than GA legislation! :lol:
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Postby Ave Gloriana » Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:59 pm

Against. This doesn't apply to us (since we are completely without crime), but some nations like watching criminals fight to the death, which is perfectly fine.
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Baddlands
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Postby Baddlands » Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:33 pm

This will never pass from what I have heard there have been a bunch of attempts and someone is trying instant repeal too. If it does then I will just ignore it
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Postby Heavens Reach » Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:38 pm

Baddlands wrote:This will never pass from what I have heard there have been a bunch of attempts and someone is trying instant repeal too. If it does then I will just ignore it


OOC: it would take a miracle for this not to pass at this point

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Postby WayNeacTia » Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:51 pm

Baddlands wrote:This will never pass from what I have heard there have been a bunch of attempts and someone is trying instant repeal too. If it does then I will just ignore it

OOC: I hate to say someone is wrong, but in the instance you are wrong.

"Now given that this has pretty much outlawed most of the events in the beloved Wayneactian pastime of a good ol' rodeo, I dearly hope someone repeals this tripe."

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Postby Honeydewistania » Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:48 am

Heavens Reach wrote:
Baddlands wrote:This will never pass from what I have heard there have been a bunch of attempts and someone is trying instant repeal too. If it does then I will just ignore it


OOC: it would take a miracle for this not to pass at this point

Not exactly. Marrabuk could possibly lose delegacy in the next two updates, resulting in losing a 700 vote lead (or even a 1500 vote lead if Libertanny votes nay)
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Postby Keswickholt » Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:02 am

It looks as if "Ban on Forced Blood Sports" is set to pass the vote.

Only time will tell if there will be any upsets to this result, at this stage, for is leading by 1,645 votes.
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Postby Heavens Reach » Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:40 am

Honeydewistania wrote:
Heavens Reach wrote:
OOC: it would take a miracle for this not to pass at this point

Not exactly. Marrabuk could possibly lose delegacy in the next two updates, resulting in losing a 700 vote lead (or even a 1500 vote lead if Libertanny votes nay)


OOC: that's two hypotheticals, which, if imminent, would still leave your proposal slightly in the camp of the yeas.

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Postby Palsada » Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:29 pm

The Anti Roman bias in this legislation is deeply hurtful to the citizens of the Roman Byzantine Union.

We vote against, and hope for its quick repeal.

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The Paradise Island
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Ban on Forced Blood Sports

Postby The Paradise Island » Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:11 am

People should be forced to participate in these sports whether they die or not. If they die, it is more entertaining for viewers

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Postby Merni » Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:11 am

Ban on Forced Blood Sports was passed 9,460 votes to 8,062.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:32 am

The first break in voting since April?

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Postby Krajakhstan » Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:53 am

We in Krajakhstan look forward to a repeal on this in the future! We shall follow it reluctantly, but follow it still.

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Honeydewistania
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Postby Honeydewistania » Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:06 am

Looking forward to the victorious repeal attempt
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Postby Baddlands » Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:32 am

Well I can always ignore and pretend this never happened until the repeal.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:47 am

Honeydewistania wrote:Looking forward to the victorious repeal attempt

That is if there are any strong repeal attempts. I say out of the millions that will be submitted, only one will be victorious in that scenario.
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Union of Sovereign States and Republics
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Postby Union of Sovereign States and Republics » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:47 am

A break in voting? Curious.

Regardless, congratulations on passing this resolution.
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Postby La Xinga » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:51 am

Break in voting? :blink: :eyebrow:
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Postby Kenmoria » Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:00 pm

Baddlands wrote:Well I can always ignore and pretend this never happened until the repeal.

(OOC: I don’t think there will be a repeal for quite some time. Honeydewistania, congratulations.)
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Postby Baddlands » Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:27 pm

That is why I am acting like this never happened and completely ignoring the ban like I do slavery and all the other stuff I do not agree with.
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Postby Union of Sovereign States and Republics » Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:02 pm

Baddlands wrote:That is why I am acting like this never happened and completely ignoring the ban like I do slavery and all the other stuff I do not agree with.

OOC: That's not very good faith, man.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:24 pm

Kenmoria wrote:
Baddlands wrote:Well I can always ignore and pretend this never happened until the repeal.

(OOC: I don’t think there will be a repeal for quite some time. Honeydewistania, congratulations.)

Thanks, Kenmoria
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