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by Slaughter None » Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:49 am
by Kenmoria » Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:51 am
Slaughter None wrote:Can someone please explain to me how animals can give their consent?
by Slaughter None » Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:53 am
Kenmoria wrote:Slaughter None wrote:Can someone please explain to me how animals can give their consent?
(OOC: The relevant clause says “Prohibits all forms of blood sports involving sapients in which one or more of the participants do not provide consent;” because animals are not sapients, they do not fall under this mandate.)
by Zaberaz Hapang » Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:40 am
Baddlands wrote:Not a huge fan. My people need bear fighting
by Zaberaz Hapang » Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:41 am
Bigoted Libertarians wrote:Opposed.
Seriously? What possible reason is there to ban blood sports from an international perspective? It doesn’t hurt anyone outside of my nation, we don’t import slaves (usually) for it, we don’t export the dead bodies (except as refreshing Soylent Blue-Green, now with a hint of paprika!).
If you’re so worried about it, ban it in your own nation. Leave my country’s aphrodisiacs alone! We don’t tell you how to keep your gay love alive...
Now get off my damn lawn...
by Bigoted Libertarians » Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:00 am
by Union of Sovereign States and Republics » Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:46 am
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by Heavens Reach » Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:02 am
""animal" as a non-sapient being with a nervous system or equivalent system by which it is naturally able to experience pain
2. Prohibits all forms of blood sports involving sapients in which one or more of the participants do not provide consent
3. Prohibits all forms of blood sports involving animals in which there is a significant possibility of serious injury or death
4. Requires that formerly captive blood sport participants be treated in a humane and fair manner, according to the following rules:
all non-animal blood sport participants must be given their freedom, excepting lawful incarceration as a penalty for criminal conduct.
by Bisim » Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:25 am
Heavens Reach wrote:3. Prohibits all forms of blood sports involving animals in which there is a significant possibility of serious injury or death
What provides a litmus of significance in this clause? Scientific significance, for example, is quite demanding, requiring a 95% or greater statistical probability to achieve significance. Surely we don't mean, for the purposes of this resolution, that significance is something so stringent; but what do we mean? If this is a case of "we'll know it when we see it," why even include this clause? Was this not adequately covered by the definition of blood sports in subclause a of clause 1? Why is it not simply sufficient to say that all blood sports involving "animals" are banned? The definition of blood sport provided already encapsulated situations in which serious injury or death are significantly possible.
by Bounapartia » Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:29 am
by Araraukar » Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:41 am
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Island Girl Herby » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:18 am
by Araraukar » Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:23 am
Island Girl Herby wrote:Ehhhhhh no sorry. According to some hotshit ehhh I mean hotshot lawyer back home this could conceivably force us to outlaw or at least severely restrict demolition derbies.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Grishahakkaverchynot » Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:32 am
by Keswickholt » Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:54 am
by Island Girl Herby » Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:23 pm
Araraukar wrote:Island Girl Herby wrote:Ehhhhhh no sorry. According to some hotshit ehhh I mean hotshot lawyer back home this could conceivably force us to outlaw or at least severely restrict demolition derbies.
"If all participants consent to them, then you're good even in the event of this passing."
by Tinhampton » Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:10 pm
Honeydewistania's Clause 4a wrote:if an animal blood sport participant does not have a significant risk of harming itself of others, it must be given its freedom
by Kenmoria » Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:20 pm
by The Angry Peasant Crusader Mob » Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:11 pm
by Ardiveds » Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:23 pm
by Outer Sparta » Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:25 pm
by Baddlands » Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:49 pm
Yeah blood sports forever #GladiatorsGetPaidThe Angry Peasant Crusader Mob wrote:Darn youngsters trying to stop my gladiatorial fights! Get off my lawn! #GladiatorsGetPaid
by Baddlands » Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:20 pm
RIHAAM wrote:I see nothing objectionable save the treatment of animals as "non-sapient."
Homocebntrism, eh?
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