[DEFEATED] Restrictions on Blood Sports

[Ancient Greek Empire]

I have updated the draft

[Kenmoria]

“I have two grammar fixes: firstly, the ‘are’ in the ‘horrified’ clause should be an ‘is’; secondly, the full stop at the end of clause 4 should be a semicolon.”

[Ancient Greek Empire]

Last call

[Honeydewistania]

By the way do I need to make a thread in moderation if I intend to submit with my own puppet? Or is that not needed?

[Kenmoria]

By the way do I need to make a thread in moderation if I intend to submit with my own puppet? Or is that not needed?

(OOC: You don’t need to create a moderation thread to submit with a puppet. If you are Ancient Greek Empire with a different nation, it might be helpful to post as Ancient Greek Empire confirming this in this thread.)

[Ancient Greek Empire]

Sure, thanks

[Ancient Greek Empire]

Submitted under my puppet Honeydewistania

[Kenmoria]

Submitted under my puppet Honeydewistania

(OOC: How are you campaigning for this?)

[Ancient Greek Empire]

Submitted under my puppet Honeydewistania

(OOC: How are you campaigning for this?)

I'm using API (nstg-web)

Edit: First approval yahoooooooooooo!

[Araraukar]

1. Defines a "blood sport" as a form of entertainment involving two or more living beings in which the aim is to injure or kill the opponent;

OOC: Hunting is still not excluded. You may have trouble with a previous resolution.

[Honeydewistania]

1. Defines a "blood sport" as a form of entertainment involving two or more living beings in which the aim is to injure or kill the opponent;

OOC: Hunting is still not excluded. You may have trouble with a previous resolution.

Hunting as in hunting for food or hunting for entertainment?

[Araraukar]

OOC: Hunting is still not excluded. You may have trouble with a previous resolution.

Hunting as in hunting for food or hunting for entertainment?

OOC: I personally don't care for hunting, but my friend's father and brother are avid hunters. They hunt for food (they eat their kills) but it's also entertainment (a hobby, a passtime) to them. The problem with the proposal is that it makes no difference. I mean, as an inverse example, my mom looooooves gardening, it's her hobby and entertainment. But she also gets fresh veggies from her garden, so it's both for food and entertainment.

[Honeydewistania]

Hunting as in hunting for food or hunting for entertainment?

OOC: I personally don't care for hunting, but my friend's father and brother are avid hunters. They hunt for food (they eat their kills) but it's also entertainment (a hobby, a passtime) to them. The problem with the proposal is that it makes no difference. I mean, as an inverse example, my mom looooooves gardening, it's her hobby and entertainment. But she also gets fresh veggies from her garden, so it's both for food and entertainment.

How much of a problem would this be? Would it be voted down?

[Araraukar]

How much of a problem would this be? Would it be voted down?

OOC: Could be declared illegal - if it had gotten to vote by then, it could be discarded. (I'm honestly like 90% asleep right now so don't have the brainpower to do the checks on the legality myself. Sorry. I meant to be in bed 2 hours ago, originally.)

If you're the author, I suggest you withdraw the submission to fix this issue. Write down the names of the delegates already having approved, you can acknowledge their support here, after withdrawing, and in your new campaign TG mention that it was withdrawn to fix a glaring error. Withdrawing now to sort problems out is better for your proposal in the long run.

[Ancient Greek Empire]

How much of a problem would this be? Would it be voted down?

OOC: Could be declared illegal - if it had gotten to vote by then, it could be discarded. (I'm honestly like 90% asleep right now so don't have the brainpower to do the checks on the legality myself. Sorry. I meant to be in bed 2 hours ago, originally.)

If you're the author, I suggest you withdraw the submission to fix this issue. Write down the names of the delegates already having approved, you can acknowledge their support here, after withdrawing, and in your new campaign TG mention that it was withdrawn to fix a glaring error. Withdrawing now to sort problems out is better for your proposal in the long run.

Perhaps, but what should be in its place?

[Honeydewistania]

Does anyone else here think the proposal violates GA rules? Or is anyone able to explain how this proposal could potentially be illegal?

[Kenmoria]

Does anyone else here think the proposal violates GA rules? Or is anyone able to explain how this proposal could potentially be illegal?

(OOC: Araraukar has highlighted a contradiction between this proposal and sensible limits on hunting. Clause 1 of GA #267 ‘Recognises member nations’ rights to allow and regulate the hunting of non-endangered animal stocks, and to ban hunting of any animals, within their borders;’ therefore any later proposal that attempts to ban hunting will be illegal for contradiction.)

[Ancient Greek Empire]

Does anyone else here think the proposal violates GA rules? Or is anyone able to explain how this proposal could potentially be illegal?

(OOC: Araraukar has highlighted a contradiction between this proposal and sensible limits on hunting. Clause 1 of GA #267 ‘Recognises member nations’ rights to allow and regulate the hunting of non-endangered animal stocks, and to ban hunting of any animals, within their borders;’ therefore any later proposal that attempts to ban hunting will be illegal for contradiction.)

So.... this is illegal?

[Kenmoria]

(OOC: Araraukar has highlighted a contradiction between this proposal and sensible limits on hunting. Clause 1 of GA #267 ‘Recognises member nations’ rights to allow and regulate the hunting of non-endangered animal stocks, and to ban hunting of any animals, within their borders;’ therefore any later proposal that attempts to ban hunting will be illegal for contradiction.)

So.... this is illegal?

(OOC: Yes, this is illegal. Clause 3 of this proposal contradicts clause 1 of GA #267. A withdrawal is necessary at this point.)

[Ancient Greek Empire]

So.... this is illegal?

(OOC: Yes, this is illegal. Clause 3 of this proposal contradicts clause 1 of GA #267. A withdrawal is necessary at this point.)

I see. It will be withdrawn ASAP.

What should I put to exclude Hunting?

[Ancient Greek Empire]

Alright, I added the hunting bit. Is it good enough? Legal?

[Imperium Anglorum]

I can give it a full read through on Wednesday, if you're willing to wait.

[Ancient Greek Empire]

I can give it a full read through on Wednesday, if you're willing to wait.

Sure then, if that's what it takes

[Kenmoria]

Alright, I added the hunting bit. Is it good enough? Legal?

(OOC: Although the proposal no longer contradict GA #267, it it now illegal because of the House of Cards rule. This means that your proposal relies on an extent resolution to support it, and is therefore not an independent piece of legislation.)

[Ancient Greek Empire]

Alright, I added the hunting bit. Is it good enough? Legal?

(OOC: Although the proposal no longer contradict GA #267, it it now illegal because of the House of Cards rule. This means that your proposal relies on an extent resolution to support it, and is therefore not an independent piece of legislation.)

Oh yeah. Better?