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[DEFEATED] Restrictions on Blood Sports

Postby Ancient Greek Empire » Tue May 05, 2020 6:10 am

Category: Moral Decency
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The World Assembly,

ACKNOWLEDGING that sports such as bullfighting, cockfighting and dogfighting are popular amongst member nations;

HORRIFIED that in most of these cases at least one of the participants in such competitions is forced to participate, usually resulting in their death or serious injury;

BELIEVING that, for the safety and protection of all sentient beings, legislation in the form of a General Assembly resolution is needed to prevent such cruel and barbaric practices;

Hereby:

1. Defines a "blood sport" as a form of entertainment involving two or more living beings in which the aim is to injure or kill the opponent, not including hunting of non-sapient creatures;

2. Prohibits all forms of blood sports in which one or more of the participants did not provide consent;

3. Prohibits all forms of blood sports in which the aim is to kill the opponent, despite consent;

4. Requires member states to relocate all captive former sapient blood sport participants to a safe and healthy rehabilitative environment, such as their natural habitat, where they will not destroy the environment, be harmed or harm others;

5. Encourages member states to relocate all captive former non-sapient blood sport participants to a safe and healthy rehabilitative environment, such as their natural habitat, where they will not destroy the environment, be harmed or harm others;

6. Encourages members states to humanely put down non-sapient creatures groomed for blood sports if rehabilitation is not possible.
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Postby Tinhampton » Tue May 05, 2020 6:13 am

Ancient Greek Empire wrote:Category: Social Justice
Strength: Mild

...for the sake of moral decency, [a GA] resolution is needed to prevent such cruel and barbaric practi[c]es

Should this be Moral Decency rather than Social Justice? If not, why not?
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Postby Ancient Greek Empire » Tue May 05, 2020 6:18 am

Tinhampton wrote:
Ancient Greek Empire wrote:Category: Social Justice
Strength: Mild

...for the sake of moral decency, [a GA] resolution is needed to prevent such cruel and barbaric practi[c]es

Should this be Moral Decency rather than Social Justice? If not, why not?

I’ll fix it, thanks.

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Postby Giant Bats » Wed May 06, 2020 1:18 am

Ikiti Tikilikrr, a prime specimen of a species that in various aspects of anatomy and physiology would have reminded people of such creatures as bats, porcupine, birds of prey and great white sharks, flexed her claws on her perch. "This cannot ban hunting, which is called a sport by those who do not need to hunt to eat, so the definition needs rewriting or clarification."

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Postby Ancient Greek Empire » Wed May 06, 2020 2:39 am

Giant Bats wrote:Ikiti Tikilikrr, a prime specimen of a species that in various aspects of anatomy and physiology would have reminded people of such creatures as bats, porcupine, birds of prey and great white sharks, flexed her claws on her perch. "This cannot ban hunting, which is called a sport by those who do not need to hunt to eat, so the definition needs rewriting or clarification."

- Ikiti Tikilikrr, the Head of Diplomatic Wing of the Tikrr, and 10th generation mother of four

“Thank you bat ambassador, the proposal has been updated to be more specific.”

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Postby Giant Bats » Wed May 06, 2020 4:03 am

Ancient Greek Empire wrote:“Thank you bat ambassador, the proposal has been updated to be more specific.”

Ikiti could never understand why people referred to Tikrr as bats, since it was about as sensible as calling all bipedal creatures gibbons. "Has the text changed? It still fails to define sport, so hunting - even subsistence hunting - could still be caught under the definition."
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Postby The New Sicilian State » Wed May 06, 2020 5:54 am

Ancient Greek Empire wrote:'Blood sports' as a sport between two living beings in which the aim of all participants is to injure or kill the opponent


OOC: So is boxing a blood sport? I don't think it matters, but is it?

Releases all living beings held in captivity to be used to participate in blood sports.


I think you'd have to expand on this one a little bit more. Releasing them where? How? Just release them? Now you've got bulls and aggressive dogs running around the state.
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Postby Ancient Greek Empire » Wed May 06, 2020 5:57 am

Giant Bats wrote:
Ancient Greek Empire wrote:“Thank you bat ambassador, the proposal has been updated to be more specific.”

Ikiti could never understand why people referred to Tikrr as bats, since it was about as sensible as calling all bipedal creatures gibbons. "Has the text changed? It still fails to define sport, so hunting - even subsistence hunting - could still be caught under the definition."

“Apologies, our old ambassador has been promptly executed for offending your nation. Hunting has now been purposely excluded from the definition”
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Ancient Greek Empire wrote:'Blood sports' as a sport between two living beings in which the aim of all participants is to injure or kill the opponent


OOC: So is boxing a blood sport? I don't think it matters, but is it?

Releases all living beings held in captivity to be used to participate in blood sports.


I think you'd have to expand on this one a little bit more. Releasing them where? How? Just release them? Now you've got bulls and aggressive dogs running around the state.


OOC: Yes it does, but in boxing most cases is that you’re a willing participant. What would be outlawed is gladiator fights, especially when you’re not consenting.

Also, what would you suggest? Releasing them into their natural habitant would be bad, but so would keeping them in captivity.

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Postby The New Sicilian State » Wed May 06, 2020 6:09 am

Ancient Greek Empire wrote:
I think you'd have to expand on this one a little bit more. Releasing them where? How? Just release them? Now you've got bulls and aggressive dogs running around the state.


OOC: Yes it does, but in boxing most cases is that you’re a willing participant. What would be outlawed is gladiator fights, especially when you’re not consenting.

Also, what would you suggest? Releasing them into their natural habitat would be bad, but so would keeping them in captivity.


OOC: Personally, I think something broad along the lines of;

Requires member states to relocate all captive blood sport participants to a healthier, safer environment.


That way, if we're talking about captive gladiators, as per your example, the legislation gives them liberty to go home to their families safely. For animals, they could be released to animal shelters. However, the clause is also vague enough that it's not "one-size" or restricting to some scenarios.
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Postby Ancient Greek Empire » Wed May 06, 2020 6:11 am

The New Sicilian State wrote:
Ancient Greek Empire wrote:


OOC: Yes it does, but in boxing most cases is that you’re a willing participant. What would be outlawed is gladiator fights, especially when you’re not consenting.

Also, what would you suggest? Releasing them into their natural habitat would be bad, but so would keeping them in captivity.


OOC: Personally, I think something broad along the lines of;

Requires member states to relocate all captive blood sport participants to a healthier, safer environment.


That way, if we're talking about captive gladiators, as per your example, the legislation gives them liberty to go home to their families safely. For animals, they could be released to animal shelters. However, the clause is also vague enough that it's not "one-size" or restricting to some scenarios.

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Postby Aclion » Wed May 06, 2020 6:19 am

Cool. So Fox tossing isn't a blood sport.
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Postby Ancient Greek Empire » Wed May 06, 2020 6:22 am

Aclion wrote:Cool. So Fox tossing isn't a blood sport.

Now it is

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Postby Newark Aristocracy » Wed May 06, 2020 6:24 am

The Newark Aristocracy's NEW WA Ambassador got mad after reading the propsalresponding to it saying:NOPE,JUST NOPE!,and then promptly shot at the WA ambassador of the Ancient Greek Empire with a 9mil 5 times,all of weicth were aimed at his chest,but not at vital spots.








I swear,my WA ambassadors love to shoot other WA ambassadors.
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Postby Ancient Greek Empire » Wed May 06, 2020 6:26 am

Newark Aristocracy wrote:
The Newark Aristocracy's NEW WA Ambassador got mad after reading the propsal,and then promptly shot at the WA ambassador of the Ancient Greek Empire with a 9mil 5 times,all of weicth were aimed at his chest,but not at vital spots.








I swear,my WA ambassadors love to shoot other WA ambassadors.

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Postby Kenmoria » Wed May 06, 2020 6:30 am

“You don’t need to define ‘consent’ in your proposal, since it has only one meaning. Also, there is a useless ‘I’ in the first ‘prohibits’ clause.”

Newark Aristocracy wrote:
The Newark Aristocracy's NEW WA Ambassador got mad after reading the propsalresponding to it saying:NOPE,JUST NOPE!,and then promptly shot at the WA ambassador of the Ancient Greek Empire with a 9mil 5 times,all of weicth were aimed at his chest,but not at vital spots.
I swear,my WA ambassadors love to shoot other WA ambassadors.

(OOC: That’s not helpful, nor would it work given weapon nullifiers.)
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Postby Newark Aristocracy » Wed May 06, 2020 6:32 am

Ancient Greek Empire wrote:
Newark Aristocracy wrote:
The Newark Aristocracy's NEW WA Ambassador got mad after reading the propsal,and then promptly shot at the WA ambassador of the Ancient Greek Empire with a 9mil 5 times,all of weicth were aimed at his chest,but not at vital spots.








I swear,my WA ambassadors love to shoot other WA ambassadors.

“Please shoot outside of the embassy, else the priceless statues get washed with my blood”


My WA Ambassador would ask:"What statues?" *cocks Glock 18* *fires at the WA ambassador 10 times,targeted at his chest again,this time the bullets are armor piercing,and again,targeted at non vital areas.*
Around the same time,the weapon nullifers would flicker on and off for 30 seconds,before turning back to their normal functions..
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Wed May 06, 2020 6:35 am

Newark Aristocracy wrote:
Ancient Greek Empire wrote:“Please shoot outside of the embassy, else the priceless statues get washed with my blood”


My WA Ambassador would ask:"What statues?" *cocks Glock 18* *fires at the WA ambassador 10 times,targeted at his chest again,this time the bullets are armor piercing,and again,targeted at non vital areas.*
around the same time,the weapon nullifers would be turned off by hackers.
"Want any more lead thrown at you,dumbass?"

OOC: You dont get to turn off the nullifiers. The player receiving damage can. Thats godmodding in this forum and gets ignored.

IC: "We are in support of such a policy. Bloodsport often invites needless cruelty and inefficient waste of resources."
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Postby Newark Aristocracy » Wed May 06, 2020 6:37 am

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Newark Aristocracy wrote:
My WA Ambassador would ask:"What statues?" *cocks Glock 18* *fires at the WA ambassador 10 times,targeted at his chest again,this time the bullets are armor piercing,and again,targeted at non vital areas.*
around the same time,the weapon nullifers would be turned off by hackers.
"Want any more lead thrown at you,dumbass?"

OOC: You dont get to turn off the nullifiers. The player receiving damage can. Thats godmodding in this forum and gets ignored.

IC: "We are in support of such a policy. Bloodsport often invites needless cruelty and inefficient waste of resources."


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Postby Separatist Peoples » Wed May 06, 2020 6:39 am

Newark Aristocracy wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:OOC: You dont get to turn off the nullifiers. The player receiving damage can. Thats godmodding in this forum and gets ignored.

IC: "We are in support of such a policy. Bloodsport often invites needless cruelty and inefficient waste of resources."


Post edited.

OOC: still godmodding. You dont get to control the nullifiers for other players except to turn them on to nullify bad roleplaying violence like this. Friendly advice: don't do it

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Postby Newark Aristocracy » Wed May 06, 2020 6:40 am

Ancient Greek Empire wrote:
Newark Aristocracy wrote:
The Newark Aristocracy's NEW WA Ambassador got mad after reading the propsal,and then promptly shot at the WA ambassador of the Ancient Greek Empire with a 9mil 5 times,all of weicth were aimed at his chest,but not at vital spots.








I swear,my WA ambassadors love to shoot other WA ambassadors.

“Please shoot outside of the embassy, else the priceless statues get washed with my blood”


"Let's just take this outside and settle this with a gunfight,right outside of the WAHQ,so EVERYONE can see this crapshow unfold."
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Postby Ancient Greek Empire » Wed May 06, 2020 6:43 am

Kenmoria wrote:“You don’t need to define ‘consent’ in your proposal, since it has only one meaning. Also, there is a useless ‘I’ in the first ‘prohibits’ clause.”

Newark Aristocracy wrote:
The Newark Aristocracy's NEW WA Ambassador got mad after reading the propsalresponding to it saying:NOPE,JUST NOPE!,and then promptly shot at the WA ambassador of the Ancient Greek Empire with a 9mil 5 times,all of weicth were aimed at his chest,but not at vital spots.
I swear,my WA ambassadors love to shoot other WA ambassadors.

(OOC: That’s not helpful, nor would it work given weapon nullifiers.)

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Newark Aristocracy wrote:
Ancient Greek Empire wrote:“Please shoot outside of the embassy, else the priceless statues get washed with my blood”


"Let's just take this outside and settle this with a gunfight,right outside of the WAHQ,so EVERYONE can see this crapshow unfold."

“We shall proceed no further in this business. Good day to you sir.”

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Wed May 06, 2020 6:44 am

Newark Aristocracy wrote:
Ancient Greek Empire wrote:“Please shoot outside of the embassy, else the priceless statues get washed with my blood”


"Let's just take this outside and settle this with a gunfight,right outside of the WAHQ,so EVERYONE can see this crapshow unfold."



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Postby Newark Aristocracy » Wed May 06, 2020 6:48 am

Ancient Greek Empire wrote:
Kenmoria wrote:“You don’t need to define ‘consent’ in your proposal, since it has only one meaning. Also, there is a useless ‘I’ in the first ‘prohibits’ clause.”


(OOC: That’s not helpful, nor would it work given weapon nullifiers.)

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Newark Aristocracy wrote:
"Let's just take this outside and settle this with a gunfight,right outside of the WAHQ,so EVERYONE can see this crapshow unfold."

“We shall proceed no further in this business. Good day to you sir.”


"No,Let's settle this crap show like real men do. A DUEL! HUMPHREY,GET MY WAX DUELING PISTOL SET,WE ARE SETTLING THIS WITH A GUN DUEL."
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Postby Ancient Greek Empire » Wed May 06, 2020 6:50 am

Newark Aristocracy wrote:
Ancient Greek Empire wrote:Post edited, thanks.
“We shall proceed no further in this business. Good day to you sir.”


"No,Let's settle this crap show like real men do. A DUEL! HUMPHREY,GET MY WAX DUELING PISTOL SET,WE ARE SETTLING THIS WITH A GUN DUEL."

“Excuse me but you are creating a fuss. The members of this assembly would much prefer to get back on topic, rather than engage in unnecessary violence!”
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Wed May 06, 2020 6:50 am

"If I might offer some support," Bell says to the author, ignoring the nearby tantrum, "you might want to expand upon what constitutes a safe and healthy environment. It sounds like you intend to detail minimal precautions for arenas. I would advise that you spell some of those factors out."

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