[DEFEATED] Condemn Deruuu

[Warzone Codger]

And what about the people who have put a lot of effort and remain unrecognized? What about the people who got passed over for less hard working or maybe nearly the same but they were popular or good friends with a popular decent writer?

Not knocking your point, because it's valid, but this already basically happens.

I totally agree, lots of folks are more worthy or simply lack the popularity to get it, but that's kinda my point, how can we allow this to be a new standard? That if your famous/have a large social media following and spend all of 5 mins you get rewarded over those who have put real effort into this game. It just really lowers the bar in effort and opens a door for celebrities (using the term loosely) to get an instant badge for next to nothing.

We'll see how the vote goes, I can't see this passing, but i'm surprised by some who choose to support it.

There are 3 levels to this.

One is in-character world of NS, where we are condemning based on fictional traffic incident they had caused on the multidimensional highway. No one is reading the resolution at this level
The 2nd level is what you and most people are debating about, whether Drew deserves to be condemn for his video and this little hiccup vs the other contribution people have added to the game. Probably not imo
There is also a 3rd level, where we are cynically scheming whether this could cause Drew to react, triggering another influx or as you suggest opening a door for other 'celebrities' to promote NS. And that might be a net good.

[The Stalker]

I totally agree, lots of folks are more worthy or simply lack the popularity to get it, but that's kinda my point, how can we allow this to be a new standard? That if your famous/have a large social media following and spend all of 5 mins you get rewarded over those who have put real effort into this game. It just really lowers the bar in effort and opens a door for celebrities (using the term loosely) to get an instant badge for next to nothing.

We'll see how the vote goes, I can't see this passing, but i'm surprised by some who choose to support it.

There are 3 levels to this.

One is in-character world of NS, where we are condemning based on fictional traffic incident they had caused on the multidimensional highway. No one is reading the resolution at this level
The 2nd level is what you and most people are debating about, whether Drew deserves to be condemn for his video and this little hiccup vs the other contribution people have added to the game. Probably not imo
There is also a 3rd level, where we are cynically scheming whether this could cause Drew to react, triggering another influx or as you suggest opening a door for other 'celebrities' to promote NS. And that might be a net good.

Hmm that is a fair point.

Personally I don't like the idea of giving badges out for next to no effort, and i'm not really thrilled by the idea of basically whoring ourselves (The NS Collective) out for some extra short-term nations to be made.

But maybe it's worth the trade off, who am I to say, but what I will say is this, everyone who votes in favor is a slut.

[Saint Nicholas and the Hussars]

OOC: I’d wish he would make a raider organization with those 20k+ nations to destroy literally every other raider organization. That would be hilarious

[Wabbitslayah]

There are 3 levels to this.

One is in-character world of NS, where we are condemning based on fictional traffic incident they had caused on the multidimensional highway. No one is reading the resolution at this level
The 2nd level is what you and most people are debating about, whether Drew deserves to be condemn for his video and this little hiccup vs the other contribution people have added to the game. Probably not imo
There is also a 3rd level, where we are cynically scheming whether this could cause Drew to react, triggering another influx or as you suggest opening a door for other 'celebrities' to promote NS. And that might be a net good.

Hmm that is a fair point.

Personally I don't like the idea of giving badges out for next to no effort, and i'm not really thrilled by the idea of basically whoring ourselves (The NS Collective) out for some extra short-term nations to be made.

But maybe it's worth the trade off, who am I to say, but what I will say is this, everyone who votes in favor is a slut.

Hmm, though his first level Codger proposes is a good one. We rarely ever do things like that. Does it have to be because people have worked hard and are popular to get anything? Can good in character proposals pass because they're good and in character? or does it have to be some IC/OOC meta for one to pass?

[WayNeacTia]

Can we not please?

[The Nation of JH]

Condemn Deruu, but get new celebrities too. (That rhymes, yay.)

[Great Algerstonia]

There are 3 levels to this.

One is in-character world of NS, where we are condemning based on fictional traffic incident they had caused on the multidimensional highway. No one is reading the resolution at this level
The 2nd level is what you and most people are debating about, whether Drew deserves to be condemn for his video and this little hiccup vs the other contribution people have added to the game. Probably not imo
There is also a 3rd level, where we are cynically scheming whether this could cause Drew to react, triggering another influx or as you suggest opening a door for other 'celebrities' to promote NS. And that might be a net good.

Hmm that is a fair point.

Personally I don't like the idea of giving badges out for next to no effort, and i'm not really thrilled by the idea of basically whoring ourselves (The NS Collective) out for some extra short-term nations to be made.

But maybe it's worth the trade off, who am I to say, but what I will say is this, everyone who votes in favor is a slut.

Everyone who votes against this is a nerd and will face noogies for eternity.

[The Stalker]

Hmm that is a fair point.

Personally I don't like the idea of giving badges out for next to no effort, and i'm not really thrilled by the idea of basically whoring ourselves (The NS Collective) out for some extra short-term nations to be made.

But maybe it's worth the trade off, who am I to say, but what I will say is this, everyone who votes in favor is a slut.

Everyone who votes against this is a nerd and will face noogies for eternity.

lol, NS is a super nerdy game in my opinion, anyone playing it is one on some level.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Deruuu needs to know that actions have consequences. I support this proposal as is.

[Domais]

Full support, lmao. Deruuu needs to pay.

[Guaylandia]

Now at vote.

Still against. Deruuu has done absolutely nothing condemnable, or commendable for that matter.

[North Dusan]

We must help these poor lost souls. It is not their fault that their introduction to our world contained the antithesis of actual instruction.

*starts video*

*founds nation*

"Haha but like what do I do?"

*clicks around*

"lol zombies"

*inevitably CTEs*

Please, don't tell me you didn't also go through a 'newbie' phase back in 2008-whenever. Or did you come out of the womb fully prepared to post on forums?
Against.

[ArenaC]

Uhh just cause some famous youtuber made a video hardly means we should condemn or commend him... He probably won't actually end up playing the game for real, and neither will the bulk of the people he got to join NS.

Condmenings and Commendings should be for people who put in the time and effort into this game, not just someone who has a large social media following and can get the masses to blindly join. We just gonna reward every youtuber who get some people to join with a 5 min video? 5 minuets of effort gets you a badge while others have put decades into this game.

Hell no.

I seriously don't understand why everyone wants to lick this guys boots for doing basically nothing.

he essentially semi-caused a game to break sooooo.....
like I see where you're coming from but I personally think that this is a good idea and should be went ahead with.


fuck, i forgot the LIbTEP will be in the back of everyone's minds during this.
welcome to Condemn (that longass region name), yes the Davelands*-written one, 2.0.

*fuckin Rahlie couper...

I’m voting against

[Outer Sparta]

And obviously voting against along with pretty much the rest of the WA.

[ArenaC]

And obviously voting against along with pretty much the rest of the WA.

This is a proposal, with, quite frankly, little need to exist. Traffic concerns do not concern the SC. Besides, the last at least 4 - 5 SC proposals were jokes.

[Denmeria]

*sigh* Again? Another joke resolution? Against...

[The Palentine]

"Normally I'd be oppossing this resolution for many reasons, the chief ones being its a C&C, and its authored by a player I've had unpleasent dealings with in the past...yeah thats a petty reason, get over it, I can be a real petty bastard. However, this is an exception. This commendation is well written and entertaining. It shows creativity instead of the usual hackneyed and boring bullshit. Good work AMOM, not that it looks like it will matter, but you have my support on this fine Comendation. The fact its pissing off members of the SC is nothing but gravy. "
Excelsior,
Sen. Horatio Sulla

[Agualia]

This proposed resolution has no concrete condemnable action to support it. Also, Agualia believes that "traffic problems" as stated in the resolution are to be resolved in the General Assembly and not in the Security Council. This is why Agualia is voting Against this Security Council Resolution
More on Agualia's decision https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1356406

Thank You

[Concrete Slab]

Stomp, stomp, a-stompity stomp

[Great Sothos]

Frankly this "proposal" is absurd. I'm pretty confident that the leader of Deruu didn't mean for "global" infrastructure to collapse. Is it his fault that the "World Assembly" failed to enact policies to counter-act the (what seems to be) fragile state of the "global" infrastructure?

Frankly this "proposal" isn't worth the paper it is written on. A waste of money, resources, and time. To that end, I am voting against this proposal and implore others to do the same.

[Destructive Government Economic System]

I wonder what Drew's thinking now that this thing's at vote

(His account was last logged into 68 mins ago)

[One Small Island]

I wonder what Drew's thinking now that this thing's at vote

(His account was last logged into 68 mins ago)

Maybe we'll find out in his next video~

[New Jakobly]

Why are we wanting to condemn Drew Durnil?

[Frisbeeteria]

OOC:

FWIW, Duruuu didn't "cause" the traffic problems, they just exacerbated them. The real problem was that a CPU memory service stopped shortly before the video was posted. When a bunch of new nations started showing up, instead of being resolved in memory, everything had to be processed via disk access. As fast as computer disks are these days, they are no match for memory speeds. What's more, as people kept losing access to the system, players refreshed pages constantly trying to get back on. You send 4-5 requests for every page instead of the usual one, and yeah, things get even slower.

tl;dr: Drew Durnil didn't break the site, he just tossed a couple of handfuls of sand into the already-slipping gears.

[Mallorea and Riva]

OOC:

FWIW, Duruuu didn't "cause" the traffic problems, they just exacerbated them. The real problem was that a CPU memory service stopped shortly before the video was posted. When a bunch of new nations started showing up, instead of being resolved in memory, everything had to be processed via disk access. As fast as computer disks are these days, they are no match for memory speeds. What's more, as people kept losing access to the system, players refreshed pages constantly trying to get back on. You send 4-5 requests for every page instead of the usual one, and yeah, things get even slower.

tl;dr: Drew Durnil didn't break the site, he just tossed a couple of handfuls of sand into the already-slipping gears.

"Condemn CPU memory service"