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[PASSED] Military Identification Tag Act

Postby Alba and Cymru » Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:41 pm

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Military Identification Tag Act
Category: International Security || Strength: Mild


Proposing Nation: United Kingdom of Alba and Cymru
Alba and Cymru Department of Defense

Author: Aodhàn Paorach, General Assembly Ambassador
Co-sponsor: Ruairidh Tàillear, Secretary of Human Development
Co-sponsor: Dòmhnall MacDorsair, Commandant of the army of Alba and Cymru



The General Assembly,

AWARE that the whereabouts of many military personnel of various nations of the General Assembly remains unknown,

APPALLED at the absence of medical treatment to recovered, yet unresponsive military personnel due to lack of identification,

LAMENTING that many soldiers who are killed-in-action remain unidentified,

WISHING to reunite those who are killed-in-action with their loved ones for proper funeral services,

KNOWING that military identification tags lend tremendous help in seeking missing-in-action or killed-in-action military combatants,

ACKNOWLEDGING the significant role of military identification tags in the treatment of unconscious or unresponsive military personnel,

NOTING that the bodies of deceased military personnel must be correctly identified in order to inform loved ones of loss, conduct funerals, as well as properly bury or cremate deceased combatants based on the wishes of the deceased,

HEREBY,

1. DEFINES a military identification tag as any durable item worn by military personnel for the purpose of identifying a deceased or unconscious body of a military combatant,

2. REQUIRES that all members of the World Assembly issue military identification tags to all registered military combatants and field personnel with the following correct and legible identification categories:

a) Full legal name, including middle initial or name and suffix,
b) Military identification number,
c) Blood type, indicating blood type letter and Rh factor,

3. ALLOWS member nations to include any other information deemed necessary,

4. REQUIRES that all member nations issue each tag with a duplicate in order to identify the bodies of deceased combatants for initial identification and later recovery,

5. ALLOWS member nations to provide the resources required to produce military identification tags to other member nations if said nation has a lack thereof.

6. ADVISES member nations from issuing military identification tags to unregistered combatants with public funding,

7. PROHIBITS the intentional destruction or displacement of active or salvaged military identification tags by any means,

8. ALLOWS member nations to re-purpose the materials in military identification tags after they have been decommissioned.


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Military Identification Tag Act
Category: International Security || Strength: Mild


Proposing Nation: United Kingdom of Alba and Cymru
Alba and Cymru Department of Defense

Author: Aodhàn Paorach, General Assembly Ambassador
Co-sponsor: Ruairidh Tàillear, Secretary of Human Development
Co-sponsor: Dòmhnall MacDorsair, Commandant of the army of Alba and Cymru



The General Assembly,

AWARE that the whereabouts of many military personnel of various nations of the General Assembly remains unknown,

APPALLED at the absence of medical treatment to recovered, yet unresponsive military personnel due to lack of identification,

LAMENTING that many soldiers who are killed-in-action remain unidentified,

WISHING to reunite those who are killed-in-action with their loved ones for proper funeral services,

KNOWING that military identification tags lend tremendous help in seeking missing-in-action or killed-in-action military combatants,

ACKNOWLEDGING the significant role of military identification tags in the treatment of unconscious or unresponsive military personnel,

NOTING that the bodies of deceased military personnel must be correctly identified in order to inform loved ones of loss, conduct funerals, as well as properly bury or cremate deceased combatants based on the wishes of the deceased,

HEREBY,

1. DEFINES a military identification tag, as any durable item worn by military personnel for the purpose of identifying a deceased or unconscious body of a military combatant,

2. REQUIRES that all members of the World Assembly issue military identification tags to all registered military combatants and field personnel with the following correct and legible identification categories:

a) Full legal name, including middle initial or name and suffix,
b) Military identification number,
c) Blood type, indicating blood type letter and Rh factor,

3. ALLOWS member nations to include any other information deemed necessary,

4. REQUIRES that all member nations issue each tag with a duplicate in order to identify the bodies of deceased combatants for initial identification and later recovery,

5. ALLOWS member nations to provide the resources required to produce military identification tags to other member nations if said nation has a lack thereof.

6. ADVISES member nations from issuing military identification tags to unregistered combatants with public funding,

7. PROHIBITS the intentional destruction or displacement of military identification tags by any means in order to conceal the death of deceased military personnel.

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Military Identification Tag Act
Category: Civil Rights || Strength: Significant


Proposing Nation: United Kingdom of Alba and Cymru
Alba and Cymru Department of Defense

Author: Aodhàn Paorach, General Assembly Ambassador
Co-sponsor: Ruairidh Tàillear, Secretary of Human Development
Co-sponsor: Dòmhnall MacDorsair, Commandant of the army of Alba and Cymru



The General Assembly,

AWARE that the whereabouts of many military personnel of various nations of the General Assembly remains unknown,

APPALLED at the absence of medical treatment to recovered, yet unresponsive military personnel due to lack of identification,

LAMENTING that many soldiers who are killed-in-action remain unidentified,

WISHING to reunite those who are killed-in-action with their loved ones for proper funeral services,

KNOWING that military identification tags lend tremendous help in seeking missing-in-action or killed-in-action military combatants,

ACKNOWLEDGING the significant role of military identification tags in the treatment of unconscious or unresponsive military personnel,

NOTING that the bodies of deceased military personnel must be correctly identified in order to inform loved ones of loss, conduct funerals, as well as properly bury or cremate deceased combatants based on the wishes of the deceased,

HEREBY,

1. DEFINES a military identification tag, as any durable item worn by military personnel for the purpose of identifying a deceased or unconscious body of a military combatant,

2. REQUIRES that all members of the World Assembly issue military identification tags to all legal military personnel with the following correct and legible identification categories:

a) Full legal name, including middle initial or name and suffix,
b) Military identification number,
c) Blood type, indicating blood type letter and Rh factor,

3. ALLOWS member nations to include any other information deemed necessary,

4. REQUIRES that all member nations issue each tag with a duplicate in order to identify the bodies of deceased combatants for initial identification and later recovery,

5. ALLOWS member nations to provide the resources required to produce military identification tags to other member nations if said nation has a lack thereof.

6. ADVISES member nations from issuing military identification tags to unregistered combatants with public funding,

7. PROHIBITS the intentional destruction or displacement of military identification tags by any means in order to conceal the death of deceased military personnel.

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Military Identification Tag Act
Category: Civil Rights || Strength: Significant


Proposing Nation: United Kingdom of Alba and Cymru
Alba and Cymru Department of Defense

Author: Aodhàn Paorach, General Assembly Ambassador
Co-sponsor: Ruairidh Tàillear, Secretary of Human Development
Co-sponsor: Dòmhnall MacDorsair, Commandant of the army of Alba and Cymru



The General Assembly,

AWARE that the whereabouts of many military personnel of various nations of the General Assembly remains unknown,

APPALLED at the absence of medical treatment to recovered, yet unresponsive military personnel due to lack of identification,

LAMENTING that many soldiers who are killed-in-action remain unidentified,

WISHING to reunite those who are killed-in-action with their loved ones for proper funeral services,

KNOWING that military identification tags lend tremendous help in seeking missing-in-action or killed-in-action military combatants,

ACKNOWLEDGING the significant role of military identification tags in the treatment of unconscious or unresponsive military personnel,

NOTING that the bodies of deceased military personnel must be correctly identified in order to inform loved ones of loss, conduct funerals, as well as properly bury or cremate deceased combatants based on the wishes of the deceased,

HEREBY,

1. DEFINES a military identification tag, as either a non-corrosive metal item or any durable item worn by military personnel for the purpose of identifying a deceased body of a military combatant,

2. REQUIRES that all members of the World Assembly issue military identification tags to all legal military personnel with the following correct and legible identification categories:

a) Full legal name, including middle initial or name and suffix,
b) Military identification number,
c) Blood type, indicating blood type letter and Rh factor,

3. ALLOWS member nations to include any other information deemed necessary,

4. REQUIRES that all member nations issue each tag with a duplicate in order to identify the bodies of deceased combatants for initial identification and later recovery,

5. ALLOWS member nations to provide the resources required to produce military identification tags to other member nations if said nation has a lack thereof.

6. PROHIBITS member nations from issuing military identification tags to unregistered combatants with public funding,

7. PROHIBITS the intentional destruction or displacement of military identification tags by any means in order to conceal the death of deceased military personnel.

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Military Identification Tag Act
Category: Civil Rights || Strength: Significant


Proposing Nation: United Kingdom of Alba and Cymru
Alba and Cymru Department of Defense

Author: Aodhàn Paorach, General Assembly Ambassador
Co-sponsor: Ruairidh Tàillear, Secretary of Human Development
Co-sponsor: Dòmhnall MacDorsair, Commandant of the army of Alba and Cymru



The General Assembly,

AWARE that the whereabouts of many military personnel of various nations of the General Assembly remain unknown,

APPALLED at the absence of medical treatment to recovered yet unresponsive military personnel due to lack of identification,

LAMENTING that many soldiers who are killed-in-action remain unidentified,

WISHING to reunite those who are killed-in-action with their loved ones for proper funeral services,

DEFINES a military identification tag as either a non-corrosive metal item or any durable item worn by military personnel for the purpose of identifying a deceased body of a military combatant,

KNOWING that military identification tags lend tremendous help in seeking missing-in-action or killed-in-action military combatants,

ACKNOWLEDGING the significant role of military identification tags in the treatment of unconscious or unresponsive military personnel,

NOTING that the bodies of deceased military personnel must be correctly identified in order to inform loved ones of loss, conduct funerals, as well as properly bury or cremate deceased combatants based on the wishes of the deceased,

1. REQUIRES that all members of the World Assembly issue military identification tags to all legal military personnel with the following correct and legible identification categories:

a) Full legal name, including middle initial or name and suffix,
b) Military identification number,
c) Blood type, indicating blood type letter and Rh factor,

2. ALLOWS member nations to include any other information deemed necessary,

3. REQUIRES that all member nations issue each tag with a duplicate in order to identify the bodies of deceased combatants for initial identification and later recovery,

4. PROHIBITS member nations from issuing military identification tags to unregistered combatants with public funding,

5. PROHIBITS the intentional destruction or displacement of military identification tags by any means in order to conceal the death of deceased military personnel.

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Military Identification Tag Act
Category: Civil Rights || Strength: Mild


Proposing Nation: United Kingdom of Alba and Cymru
Alba and Cymru Department of Defense

Author: Aodhàn Paorach, General Assembly Ambassador
Co-sponsor: Ruairidh Tàillear, Secretary of Human Development
Co-sponsor: Dòmhnall MacDorsair, Commandant of the army of Alba and Cymru



The nations of the General Assembly,

DEFINING a military identification tag, also known as a "dog tag", as a non-corrosive metal item worn by military personnel for the purpose of identifying a deceased body of a military combatant,

KNOWING that military identification tags lend tremendous assistance in seeking military combatants who are missing-in-action or killed-in-action,

ACKNOWLEDGING the significant role of military identification tags in the treatment of unconscious or unresponsive military personnel,

NOTING that the bodies of deceased military personnel must be correctly identified in order to inform loved ones of loss, conduct funerals, as well as properly bury or cremate deceased combatants based on the wishes of the deceased,

1. REQUIRES that all members of the World Assembly issue military identification tags to all legal military personnel with the following correct identification information, giving the option of listing these categories in either the official writing script of the nation, or in the Latin script:

a) Full legal name, including middle initial or name and suffix
b) Military identification number
c) Blood type, indicating blood type letter and Rh factor

2. ALLOWS member nations to include the following correct identification information if desired:

a) Nationality
b) Hometown
c) Branch of military service
d) Religious background
e) Date of Birth

3. REQUIRES that all member nations issue each tag with a duplicate in order to identify the bodies deceased combatants for initial identification and later recovery,

4. PROHIBITS member nations from issuing military identification tags to illegal combatants with public funding,

5. PROHIBITS the intentional destruction or displacement of military identification tags by any means in order to conceal the death of deceased military personnel.
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Postby Tinhampton » Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:44 pm

Nitpick: Change the body doing the herebying OR the tense of your operative clauses, whichever works best. Which reads better: "The nations of the World Assembly require all jewellery to be hallmarked" or "The nations of the World Assembly requires all jewellery to be hallmarked"?
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Postby Alba and Cymru » Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:47 pm

Tinhampton wrote:Nitpick: Change the body doing the herebying OR the tense of your operative clauses, whichever works best. Which reads better: "The nations of the World Assembly require all jewellery to be hallmarked" or "The nations of the World Assembly requires all jewellery to be hallmarked"?


Thanks for the heads-up. I will apply these changes to the second draft.
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Postby Wallenburg » Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:34 pm

OOC: References to the "Latin script" may run against the RL references rule (proposal rules here). Even if this is legal, including the Latin alphabet specifically as an option is of little use to this body, as member states probably use hundreds, if not thousands, of different scripts. I would recommend against including this specific mention, and just leave it to the language of the nation of origin.

I'm also not sure how useful clause 4 is. Illegal soldiers are illegal no matter what, you may as well make sure they can be identified if they are captured or killed.
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Postby Alba and Cymru » Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:15 pm

Wallenburg wrote:OOC: References to the "Latin script" may run against the RL references rule (proposal rules here). Even if this is legal, including the Latin alphabet specifically as an option is of little use to this body, as member states probably use hundreds, if not thousands, of different scripts. I would recommend against including this specific mention, and just leave it to the language of the nation of origin.

I'm also not sure how useful clause 4 is. Illegal soldiers are illegal no matter what, you may as well make sure they can be identified if they are captured or killed.


The official language of the World Assembly is standard English, if I'm not mistaken, since all proposals need to be written in English, so referencing the Latin alphabet shouldn't violate the RL reference rule, since Latin is the standard English script.

As for clause 4, perhaps I should replace "illegal" with "unregistered". Would that be appropriate? Take note that the reason for clause 4 is to discourage nations from directly supporting proxy armies with public funding.
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Postby Kathol Rift » Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:22 pm

The definition of an Identification tag is awfully specific. The are probably many nations that already have forms of identification that don’t fall within that definition, but are just as effective. For example, my military uses a radio tag in the helmet. It can be scanned to identify who was wearing it, and it is very hard to destroy. However, as it isn’t a “non-corrosive metal item,” it wouldn’t count as a military identification tag. I think that should be altered to simply being any durable object used to identify soldiers, living or dead. That is just our country’s opinion though.
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Postby Alba and Cymru » Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:24 pm

Kathol Rift wrote:The definition of an Identification tag is awfully specific. The are probably many nations that already have forms of identification that don’t fall within that definition, but are just as effective. For example, my military uses a radio tag in the helmet. It can be scanned to identify who was wearing it, and it is very hard to destroy. However, as it isn’t a “non-corrosive metal item,” it wouldn’t count as a military identification tag. I think that should be altered to simply being any durable object used to identify soldiers, living or dead. That is just our country’s opinion though.


Noted. I think I can make an appropriate amendment to the definition of an ID tag. Thanks for the feedback.
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Postby Warlord Palestine » Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:27 pm

Let me know where to sign it was great just fix the illegal soldiers portion

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:41 pm

"Why is this something requiring regulation? If there is international utility in standardizing military deceased identification, you have not successfully articulated it. Your draft should warrant, at a minumum, what the problem is and why it requires a universal approach."

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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:54 pm

Alba and Cymru wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:OOC: References to the "Latin script" may run against the RL references rule (proposal rules here). Even if this is legal, including the Latin alphabet specifically as an option is of little use to this body, as member states probably use hundreds, if not thousands, of different scripts. I would recommend against including this specific mention, and just leave it to the language of the nation of origin.

I'm also not sure how useful clause 4 is. Illegal soldiers are illegal no matter what, you may as well make sure they can be identified if they are captured or killed.


The official language of the World Assembly is standard English, if I'm not mistaken, since all proposals need to be written in English, so referencing the Latin alphabet shouldn't violate the RL reference rule, since Latin is the standard English script.

As for clause 4, perhaps I should replace "illegal" with "unregistered". Would that be appropriate? Take note that the reason for clause 4 is to discourage nations from directly supporting proxy armies with public funding.

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Postby Araraukar » Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:09 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Alba and Cymru wrote:The official language of the World Assembly is standard English, if I'm not mistaken, since all proposals need to be written in English

There is no official language of the World Assembly.

OOC: As Wally said, you're mistaking the rules of NationStates the Game (an out-of-character thing) for something existing in the World Assembly (an in-character thing). There is actually a resolution that specifically says the resolutions are translated to the various languages of the WA nations. Also, I would still call naming Latin-anything a RL reference, as it's a RL dead language and any kind of script (what does that even mean? font?) of that name is clearly a RL reference that exists in the out-of-character Real Life. They might exist in IC nations as well, but then that becomes a problem of roleplaying realities. Think of it as the same kind of problem as if I tried to require something written in Araraukarian script. You'd probably think that to be nonsensical, because it's something that only exists in my RP reality. The same applies here.

So it's either RL reference or as sensible as requiring it be written in Araraukarian script. :P
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Postby Alba and Cymru » Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:18 pm

My mistake. I was under the impression that English was the official language due to proposal requirements.

I will remove the script requirement from its respective clause in the 2nd draft.
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Postby Alba and Cymru » Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:23 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:"Why is this something requiring regulation? If there is international utility in standardizing military deceased identification, you have not successfully articulated it. Your draft should warrant, at a minumum, what the problem is and why it requires a universal approach."


"This is an issue requiring standardization for the civil rights of soldiers. There have been nations in my past that have not issued any kind of identification or medical information to their military personnel. I thought this draft was thorough in its regards to the utility of military identification tags to the families of military combatants as well as medical personnel who are treating them. Should I expand on this?"
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:26 pm

Alba and Cymru wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:"Why is this something requiring regulation? If there is international utility in standardizing military deceased identification, you have not successfully articulated it. Your draft should warrant, at a minumum, what the problem is and why it requires a universal approach."


"This is an issue requiring standardization for the civil rights of soldiers. There have been nations in my past that have not issued any kind of identification or medical information to their military personnel. I thought this draft was thorough in its regards to the utility of military identification tags to the families of military combatants as well as medical personnel who are treating them. Should I expand on this?"

"To my understanding ambassador, there is no articulated right as such. If a nation did it engage in such actions, nothing would prevent a soldier from identifying their bodies in other ways. If you wanted to facilitate identification of the deceased, you might address this from that angle and not as a vague laundry list of requirements for one form of identification. You might also review the list of passed resolutions, that you might see what may already be covered."

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Postby Araraukar » Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:26 pm

Alba and Cymru wrote:"This is an issue requiring standardization for the civil rights of soldiers."

IC: "Mitä vittua kansalaisoikeuksilla on tämän kanssa tekemistä?" Linda demanded to know.

OOC: Translation: "What the fuck do civil rights have to do with this?"
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Postby Alba and Cymru » Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:41 pm

Araraukar wrote:
Alba and Cymru wrote:"This is an issue requiring standardization for the civil rights of soldiers."

IC: "Mitä vittua kansalaisoikeuksilla on tämän kanssa tekemistä?" Linda demanded to know.

OOC: Translation: "What the fuck do civil rights have to do with this?"


IC: "Tha teaghlaichean nan saighdearan a tha air tuiteam ag iarraidh còir seirbheis tiodhlacaidh cheart a thoirt do na daoine a bhàsaich.
Tha saighdearan de gach dùthaich ag iarraidh còir air làimhseachadh meidigeach ceart agus fulangas fala. Tha e mì-chinnteach proifeiseantaich meidigeach agus teaghlaichean fhàgail gus faighneachd dè am fuil a bhuineas dha càite,"
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OOC: "The families of fallen soldiers demand the right to give a proper funeral service to their dead loved ones. The soldiers of all nations demand the right to proper medical treatment and transfusions. It is unsound to leave medical professionals and families guessing which blood belongs where."
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Postby Alba and Cymru » Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:51 pm

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Alba and Cymru wrote:
"This is an issue requiring standardization for the civil rights of soldiers. There have been nations in my past that have not issued any kind of identification or medical information to their military personnel. I thought this draft was thorough in its regards to the utility of military identification tags to the families of military combatants as well as medical personnel who are treating them. Should I expand on this?"

"To my understanding ambassador, there is no articulated right as such. If a nation did it engage in such actions, nothing would prevent a soldier from identifying their bodies in other ways. If you wanted to facilitate identification of the deceased, you might address this from that angle and not as a vague laundry list of requirements for one form of identification. You might also review the list of passed resolutions, that you might see what may already be covered."


"There are instances in warfare where a body becomes unrecognizable, and there are instances where entire platoons are cast into the afterlife. There is no way then to identify some soldiers. It is a gruesome sight that I, as well as most nations, want to always avoid. However, sometimes these tragedies are unavoidable, but even then, these soldiers and their families deserve rights. The installment of these rights comes through the international standardization of military identification tags, which this proposal wishes to achieve, and which has not been aforementioned. I hear your call to adress this issue from a broader angle, and I will make amendments where necessary."

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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Apr 21, 2020 2:54 pm

Alba and Cymru wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:"To my understanding ambassador, there is no articulated right as such. If a nation did it engage in such actions, nothing would prevent a soldier from identifying their bodies in other ways. If you wanted to facilitate identification of the deceased, you might address this from that angle and not as a vague laundry list of requirements for one form of identification. You might also review the list of passed resolutions, that you might see what may already be covered."


"There are instances in warfare where a body becomes unrecognizable, and there are instances where entire platoons are cast into the afterlife. There is no way then to identify some soldiers. It is a gruesome sight that I, as well as most nations, want to always avoid. However, sometimes these tragedies are unavoidable, but even then, these soldiers and their families deserve rights. The installment of these rights comes through the international standardization of military identification tags, which this proposal wishes to achieve, and which has not been aforementioned. I hear your call to adress this issue from a broader angle, and I will make amendments where necessary."

- Commandant MacDorsair

"I am unaware of a pervasive problem where member states are prohibiting soldiers from carrying identification. This resolution is not about the rights of soldiers or their families, at least in practice. It is, however, useful in identifying units killed in battle."
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Postby Tinfect » Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:05 pm

Alba and Cymru wrote:DEFINING a military identification tag, also known as a "dog tag", as a non-corrosive metal item worn by military personnel for the purpose of identifying a deceased body of a military combatant,


"The Imperium highly objects to the comparison of our Soldiers to dogs," said Rahlen, who rather looked personally offended, as a soldier, by the implication. "You would be well-served to remove that section. Also this definition is limited, consider expanding it to more broadly cover identification for similar purpose beyond just metal tags."

Alba and Cymru wrote:1. REQUIRES that all members of the World Assembly issue military identification tags to all legal military personnel with the following correct identification information, giving the option of listing these categories in either the official writing script of the nation, or in the Latin script:


"What is 'latin' script, and why is it so important that it's singled-out as being specifically legal?"

Alba and Cymru wrote:2. ALLOWS member nations to include the following correct identification information if desired:
a) Nationality
b) Hometown
c) Branch of military service
d) Religious background
e) Date of Birth


"I don't see any reason to prohibit anything else a Member-State might deem necessary; perhaps beyond basic obligations, the rest of the information may simply be left to the judgement of Member-States?"

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Also; is the top of the draft based on my formatting for such? I don't mind if it is, it's just very similar and I think that's interesting.
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:09 pm

"The mass waste of metal on identification will not go well with metal-poor states. Plenty of other materials are perfectly capable of carrying identification."
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Postby Richonne » Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:10 pm

Oppose.

They are not deserving of identification if they could not bother to survive.

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Postby Alba and Cymru » Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:38 pm

Tinfect wrote:
Alba and Cymru wrote:DEFINING a military identification tag, also known as a "dog tag", as a non-corrosive metal item worn by military personnel for the purpose of identifying a deceased body of a military combatant,


"The Imperium highly objects to the comparison of our Soldiers to dogs," said Rahlen, who rather looked personally offended, as a soldier, by the implication. "You would be well-served to remove that section. Also this definition is limited, consider expanding it to more broadly cover identification for similar purpose beyond just metal tags."

Alba and Cymru wrote:1. REQUIRES that all members of the World Assembly issue military identification tags to all legal military personnel with the following correct identification information, giving the option of listing these categories in either the official writing script of the nation, or in the Latin script:


"What is 'latin' script, and why is it so important that it's singled-out as being specifically legal?"

Alba and Cymru wrote:2. ALLOWS member nations to include the following correct identification information if desired:
a) Nationality
b) Hometown
c) Branch of military service
d) Religious background
e) Date of Birth


"I don't see any reason to prohibit anything else a Member-State might deem necessary; perhaps beyond basic obligations, the rest of the information may simply be left to the judgement of Member-States?"

Also; is the top of the draft based on my formatting for such? I don't mind if it is, it's just very similar and I think that's interesting.[/size]


"The use of the word 'dog-tag' is used colloquially by many nations to reference a military identification tag. It is not meant to call soldiers 'dogs' or to lessen their value in any degree. I apologize if I caused any offense."

"I've resolved the issue with the 'Latin script' with other ambassadors earlier today. In the second draft I will remove that requirement from its respective clause."

"Perhaps I should add: 'f) Any other identifying information deemed necessary to individual member states'. Would that be appropriate?"

I've scanned through this forum at other drafts that are being debated, and several draft formats seemed quite professional, including yours. I thought it would be nice to strive for the same level of professionalism.
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Postby Alba and Cymru » Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:40 pm

Wallenburg wrote:"The mass waste of metal on identification will not go well with metal-poor states. Plenty of other materials are perfectly capable of carrying identification."


"Noted. Another ambassador recommended changing 'metal-object' to 'durable-object', so that will be an amendment to the second draft."
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Postby Alba and Cymru » Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:42 pm

Richonne wrote:Oppose.

They are not deserving of identification if they could not bother to survive.


"It appears that you are not deserving of soldiers if you possess that much disregard for them."
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Postby Tinfect » Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:44 pm

Alba and Cymru wrote:"The use of the word 'dog-tag' is used colloquially by many nations to reference a military identification tag. It is not meant to call soldiers 'dogs' or to lessen their value in any degree. I apologize if I caused any offense."


"And? I don't particularly care how foreigners choose to insult their militaries, or the handwaving about it; the Imperium will not have it enshrined into international law."

Alba and Cymru wrote:"I've resolved the issue with the 'Latin script' with other ambassadors earlier today. In the second draft I will remove that requirement from its respective clause."

"Good, see that you do."

Alba and Cymru wrote:"Perhaps I should add: 'f) Any other identifying information deemed necessary to individual member states'. Would that be appropriate?"


"It would be best to simply remove every other part of that clause. 'Allows Member-States to add other information deemed necessary,' something along those lines."

Alba and Cymru wrote:I've scanned through this forum at other drafts that are being debated, and several draft formats seemed quite professional, including yours. I thought it would be nice to strive for the same level of professionalism.


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Well, thank you!
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