Solomons Land wrote:Wallenburg wrote:"In some cases, agency is good. In others, it is not. I should not have to lecture a fellow civil servant on this."
"...and women should not have the agency to murder their children."
-President Solomon Rusk
"Agreed. We are truly fortunate then that abortion is definitively not murder, and that terminating a pregnancy doesn't kill children. These are not compelling arguments, President."
Stellonia wrote:Wallenburg wrote:Anti-choice, however, is entirely accurate for the rather prevalent faction of the anti-abortion camp which opposes abortion not out of concern for life, but out of a desire to control women.
I cannot engage with someone who would rather make dishonest assertions about my point of view than make any attempt to understand it. You should know that maligning someone is not going to change their mind, even if you believe what you are saying. If you truly think that I want to oppress women, then arguing with me is an exercise in futility because you cannot change my mind, but if you think that I oppose abortion for sincere reasons, then you can explain why those sincere reasons are wrong.
I didn't say anything about
you. I very clearly said that there exists such a faction in the anti-abortion camp. I assigned nobody to that faction. I am, however, conscious of your failure to pay attention to that and your knee-jerk reaction against a perceived slight. Most anti-abortion individuals who
don't want to control women wouldn't behave like that.
Stellonia wrote:Stellonia wrote:OOC: Since you and Separatist Peoplee are evidently privy to the contents of some mass telegram that pro-lifers have sent to criticize your proposal, could one of you be willing to share the contents of that telegram so we could see what "lies" and "false information" it contains? I have also heard that you sent one or two mass telegrams of your own. Could you share the contents of that or those telegrams?
OOC: I would like to ask Imperium Anglorium and Separatist Peoples, or anyone else who can, for that matter, to share the contents of these mass telegrams. Everyone should be able to see the telegrams in question for themselves and draw their own conclusions.
If you are so adamant that these TGs ought to be public, you should probably see to it that the anti-abortion countercampaigns are published here as well.