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by Tarchuna and Ravenna » Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:38 pm
by United Massachusetts » Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:39 pm
The Sladerstan wrote:You are going against the National Sovereignty of every nation, and deciding that they MUST allow abortion, although they may be against it. Would you like it if someone passed a proposal that made it illegal to be homosexual in every WA nation?
You're not doing something that I would support, or any others like me want done in our nations, you're doing something YOU support and want done in every single nation. You're forcing your views on every nation and deciding what they do within their borders is your business.
This isn't a proposal that many people will agree on, this is a proposal about pushing the leftist agenda on every single nation, regardless of their political views.
I am absolutely against this.
by Tarchuna and Ravenna » Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:40 pm
United Massachusetts wrote:The Sladerstan wrote:You are going against the National Sovereignty of every nation, and deciding that they MUST allow abortion, although they may be against it. Would you like it if someone passed a proposal that made it illegal to be homosexual in every WA nation?
You're not doing something that I would support, or any others like me want done in our nations, you're doing something YOU support and want done in every single nation. You're forcing your views on every nation and deciding what they do within their borders is your business.
This isn't a proposal that many people will agree on, this is a proposal about pushing the leftist agenda on every single nation, regardless of their political views.
I am absolutely against this.
Correction: the WA already requires the legalization of abortion in all cases. This would force member nations to fund trips to paid "abortionplexes" that the authors intended to fashion like resort casinos. It's vastly worse than even what you're describing.
by The Sladerstan » Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:43 pm
United Massachusetts wrote:The Sladerstan wrote:You are going against the National Sovereignty of every nation, and deciding that they MUST allow abortion, although they may be against it. Would you like it if someone passed a proposal that made it illegal to be homosexual in every WA nation?
You're not doing something that I would support, or any others like me want done in our nations, you're doing something YOU support and want done in every single nation. You're forcing your views on every nation and deciding what they do within their borders is your business.
This isn't a proposal that many people will agree on, this is a proposal about pushing the leftist agenda on every single nation, regardless of their political views.
I am absolutely against this.
Correction: the WA already requires the legalization of abortion in all cases. This would force member nations to fund trips to paid "abortionplexes" that the authors intended to fashion like resort casinos. It's vastly worse than even what you're describing.
by Tarchuna and Ravenna » Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:44 pm
by Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 » Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:47 pm
United Massachusetts wrote:I will fight against this with everything I have.
by Separatist Peoples » Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:53 pm
Tarchuna and Ravenna wrote:If this ever goes to vote, we must fight against it with all of our power.
200% Opposed. Abortion is not a goddamn vacation.
by Tarchuna and Ravenna » Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:28 pm
by Wallenburg » Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:25 pm
Tarchuna and Ravenna wrote:“Any self-respecting Head of State would at least reply to our rebuttals.”
-Valens, First Lord Admiral
by Separatist Peoples » Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:38 am
Wallenburg wrote:Tarchuna and Ravenna wrote:“Any self-respecting Head of State would at least reply to our rebuttals.”
-Valens, First Lord Admiral
"First, Ambassador Bell isn't a head of state. As I understand, his assignment here is more a punishment by his higher-ups than anything else. Second, I do believe the Separatist ambassador did reply to your rebuttal. That you were not satisfied with the reply is an entirely different matter."
by The New Sicilian State » Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:36 am
by Auze » Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:45 am
Sex-selective abortions. Notwithstanding any other provision of this resolution and unless otherwise indicated by resolution, members may restrict access to or section 2 funding for an abortion if a sex-selective basis impels its request.
by Attempted Socialism » Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:12 pm
Auze wrote:"Opposed. Anyway, I don't think that's what 'whereas' means."Sex-selective abortions. Notwithstanding any other provision of this resolution and unless otherwise indicated by resolution, members may restrict access to or section 2 funding for an abortion if a sex-selective basis impels its request.
"So, ignoring our bugging of every room in the 3 abortion clinics in Auze, how do we tell if the abortion is due to the sex of the offspring? Should we mandate the writing of a ten page essay in MLA format on why the person wants an abortion?"
Represented in the World Assembly by Ambassador Robert Mortimer Pride, called The Regicide Assume OOC unless otherwise indicated. My WA Authorship. | Cui Bono, quod seipsos custodes custodiunt? Bobberino: "The academic tone shines through." | Who am I in real life, my opinions and notes My NS career |
by Sierra Lyricalia » Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:54 pm
The Sladerstan wrote:You are going against the National Sovereignty of every nation, and deciding that they MUST allow abortion, although they may be against it. Would you like it if someone passed a proposal that made it illegal to be homosexual in every WA nation?
You're not doing something that I would support, or any others like me want done in our nations, you're doing something YOU support and want done in every single nation. You're forcing your views on every nation and deciding what they do within their borders is your business.
by Charax » Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:06 pm
by Agarntrop 2 » Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:17 pm
Sierra Lyricalia wrote:The Sladerstan wrote:You are going against the National Sovereignty of every nation, and deciding that they MUST allow abortion, although they may be against it. Would you like it if someone passed a proposal that made it illegal to be homosexual in every WA nation?
You're not doing something that I would support, or any others like me want done in our nations, you're doing something YOU support and want done in every single nation. You're forcing your views on every nation and deciding what they do within their borders is your business.
"You are going against the individual sovereignty of every nation's citizens, and deciding that they MUST NOT have abortions, although they may want them. Would you like it if someone passed a proposal that made it illegal to buy a gun in every member nation?"
"You're not doing something that all of your citizens would support, or any others like them in other member states, you're doing something YOUR LEADER supports and wants done to every single person. You're forcing your views on every person and deciding what they do within their own bodies is your business."
by Separatist Peoples » Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:21 pm
Agarntrop 2 wrote:Sierra Lyricalia wrote:
"You are going against the individual sovereignty of every nation's citizens, and deciding that they MUST NOT have abortions, although they may want them. Would you like it if someone passed a proposal that made it illegal to buy a gun in every member nation?"
"You're not doing something that all of your citizens would support, or any others like them in other member states, you're doing something YOUR LEADER supports and wants done to every single person. You're forcing your views on every person and deciding what they do within their own bodies is your business."
"So a viable fetus that could live independently is a part of a person? Anyhow, this bill is not the same as the dreaded GAR#286, which is what you seem to be all discussing. This bill would result in taxpayers paying for things they believe fundamentally wrong and at odds with their religious beliefs. Taxpayers should not be forced to pay for something they believe is murder, and for that reason, against."
by Attempted Socialism » Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:24 pm
Agarntrop 2 wrote:Sierra Lyricalia wrote:
"You are going against the individual sovereignty of every nation's citizens, and deciding that they MUST NOT have abortions, although they may want them. Would you like it if someone passed a proposal that made it illegal to buy a gun in every member nation?"
"You're not doing something that all of your citizens would support, or any others like them in other member states, you're doing something YOUR LEADER supports and wants done to every single person. You're forcing your views on every person and deciding what they do within their own bodies is your business."
"So a viable fetus that could live independently is a part of a person? Anyhow, this bill is not the same as the dreaded GAR#286, which is what you seem to be all discussing. This bill would result in taxpayers paying for things they believe fundamentally wrong and at odds with their religious beliefs. Taxpayers should not be forced to pay for something they believe is murder, and for that reason, against."
Represented in the World Assembly by Ambassador Robert Mortimer Pride, called The Regicide Assume OOC unless otherwise indicated. My WA Authorship. | Cui Bono, quod seipsos custodes custodiunt? Bobberino: "The academic tone shines through." | Who am I in real life, my opinions and notes My NS career |
by Agarntrop 2 » Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:26 pm
Separatist Peoples wrote:Agarntrop 2 wrote:"So a viable fetus that could live independently is a part of a person? Anyhow, this bill is not the same as the dreaded GAR#286, which is what you seem to be all discussing. This bill would result in taxpayers paying for things they believe fundamentally wrong and at odds with their religious beliefs. Taxpayers should not be forced to pay for something they believe is murder, and for that reason, against."
"Ambassador, I am confident your tax money is used for things you dislike every day. That is a poor argument, unless you would ban war, for example."
by Alba and Cymru » Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:28 pm
by Separatist Peoples » Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:28 pm
Agarntrop 2 wrote:Separatist Peoples wrote:"Ambassador, I am confident your tax money is used for things you dislike every day. That is a poor argument, unless you would ban war, for example."
"By that logic I presume the ambassador is writing up a resolution right now mandating nations to be in a constant state of war."
by Marxist Germany » Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:30 pm
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