United Massachusetts wrote:We want to reiterate that this will not make it to vote
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by Separatist Peoples » Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:35 pm
United Massachusetts wrote:We want to reiterate that this will not make it to vote
by United Massachusetts » Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:36 pm
by Separatist Peoples » Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:37 pm
by Agarntrop » Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:39 pm
by Tinhampton » Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:39 pm
by United Massachusetts » Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:41 pm
by Separatist Peoples » Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:44 pm
United Massachusetts wrote:Separatist Peoples wrote:"Considering it very nearly did during the height of delegate fatigue, that seems a bold claim."
"I want to say this one more time, so that everyone in this building is clear -- United Massachusetts will do everything it can to make this monstrous legislation unthinkable. Those delegates wearing smug faces now ought to know that we will fight to the very end."
by Agarntrop » Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:45 pm
by Great Aethernia » Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:45 pm
by Separatist Peoples » Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:46 pm
Agarntrop wrote:Ambassador
"Opposed. This resolution is a blatant violation of the national sovereignty of members and prohibits even restricting abortions the hour before birth. Disgusting!"
by Agarntrop » Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:48 pm
Separatist Peoples wrote:Agarntrop wrote:Ambassador
"Opposed. This resolution is a blatant violation of the national sovereignty of members and prohibits even restricting abortions the hour before birth. Disgusting!"
"Ambassador, had you bothered reading the compendium of passed law, you would know that other laws already have such requirements in this Assembly, and that national sovereignty is rarely a convincing argument."
by Separatist Peoples » Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:49 pm
Agarntrop wrote:Separatist Peoples wrote:"Ambassador, had you bothered reading the compendium of passed law, you would know that other laws already have such requirements in this Assembly, and that national sovereignty is rarely a convincing argument."
"If we make a mistake once do we have a duty to somehow repeat and intensify it?"
by United Massachusetts » Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:50 pm
Separatist Peoples wrote:Agarntrop wrote:Ambassador
"Opposed. This resolution is a blatant violation of the national sovereignty of members and prohibits even restricting abortions the hour before birth. Disgusting!"
"Ambassador, had you bothered reading the compendium of passed law, you would know that other laws already have such requirements in this Assembly, and that national sovereignty is rarely a convincing argument."
by Separatist Peoples » Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:51 pm
United Massachusetts wrote:Separatist Peoples wrote:"Ambassador, had you bothered reading the compendium of passed law, you would know that other laws already have such requirements in this Assembly, and that national sovereignty is rarely a convincing argument."
"And yet the Ambassador uses such arguments all the time."
by Morover » Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:52 pm
Great Aethernia wrote:1. Regarding the so-called "Abortionplex", is there any better way to name this facility? If you are looking for approval, it might not be wise if you named it so. If my predictions is right, around 40-60% of WA will go against this resolution. Oh i'm sure that the controversial theme of abortion will spark interest, but this kind of naming would turn that spark to a wildfire in very short time. I do have a few suggestions for the alternatives, such as: Centers for Birth Control(CBC) or, Obsterics, Gynecology, and Abortion Center(OBGYNAC).
by United Massachusetts » Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:58 pm
Morover wrote:Great Aethernia wrote:1. Regarding the so-called "Abortionplex", is there any better way to name this facility? If you are looking for approval, it might not be wise if you named it so. If my predictions is right, around 40-60% of WA will go against this resolution. Oh i'm sure that the controversial theme of abortion will spark interest, but this kind of naming would turn that spark to a wildfire in very short time. I do have a few suggestions for the alternatives, such as: Centers for Birth Control(CBC) or, Obsterics, Gynecology, and Abortion Center(OBGYNAC).
"Ambassador, the monument that would be arisen from such a place would not be able to be adequately described by the word 'center.' No, such a hub deserves a spectacular name - hence, Abortionplex."
by Morover » Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:59 pm
United Massachusetts wrote:Morover wrote:"Ambassador, the monument that would be arisen from such a place would not be able to be adequately described by the word 'center.' No, such a hub deserves a spectacular name - hence, Abortionplex."
IC + OOC: "Or perhaps the proposing delegation wished to pass the most obscenely anti-fetal-rights resolution possible. Regardless of our stances on its legality, the Delegation from United Massachusetts believes abortion ought not to be trivialized -- it is a serious matter and a painful decision for many mothers. Resolutions like this seek to trivialize a serious societal tragedy, namely the perverse societal standards that effectively force mothers to allow the death of their own children. No mother should be put in that situation, and even if we believe abortion ought to be accessible, we shouldn't trivialize the real pain that abortion causes.
by Separatist Peoples » Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:00 pm
Morover wrote:United Massachusetts wrote:IC + OOC: "Or perhaps the proposing delegation wished to pass the most obscenely anti-fetal-rights resolution possible. Regardless of our stances on its legality, the Delegation from United Massachusetts believes abortion ought not to be trivialized -- it is a serious matter and a painful decision for many mothers. Resolutions like this seek to trivialize a serious societal tragedy, namely the perverse societal standards that effectively force mothers to allow the death of their own children. No mother should be put in that situation, and even if we believe abortion ought to be accessible, we shouldn't trivialize the real pain that abortion causes.
"Abortionplex is not trivializing of the issue at hand unless one makes it so."
by Agarntrop 2 » Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:01 pm
United Massachusetts wrote:Morover wrote:"Ambassador, the monument that would be arisen from such a place would not be able to be adequately described by the word 'center.' No, such a hub deserves a spectacular name - hence, Abortionplex."
IC + OOC: "Or perhaps the proposing delegation wished to pass the most obscenely anti-fetal-rights resolution possible. Regardless of our stances on its legality, the Delegation from United Massachusetts believes abortion ought not to be trivialized -- it is a serious matter and a painful decision for many mothers. Resolutions like this seek to trivialize a serious societal tragedy, namely the perverse societal standards that effectively force mothers to allow the death of their own children. No mother should be put in that situation, and even if we believe abortion ought to be accessible, we shouldn't trivialize the real pain that abortion causes.
by Separatist Peoples » Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:01 pm
Agarntrop 2 wrote:United Massachusetts wrote:IC + OOC: "Or perhaps the proposing delegation wished to pass the most obscenely anti-fetal-rights resolution possible. Regardless of our stances on its legality, the Delegation from United Massachusetts believes abortion ought not to be trivialized -- it is a serious matter and a painful decision for many mothers. Resolutions like this seek to trivialize a serious societal tragedy, namely the perverse societal standards that effectively force mothers to allow the death of their own children. No mother should be put in that situation, and even if we believe abortion ought to be accessible, we shouldn't trivialize the real pain that abortion causes.
"Hear, hear."
by Agarntrop 2 » Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:05 pm
by Great Aethernia » Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:17 pm
Morover wrote:Great Aethernia wrote:1. Regarding the so-called "Abortionplex", is there any better way to name this facility? If you are looking for approval, it might not be wise if you named it so. If my predictions is right, around 40-60% of WA will go against this resolution. Oh i'm sure that the controversial theme of abortion will spark interest, but this kind of naming would turn that spark to a wildfire in very short time. I do have a few suggestions for the alternatives, such as: Centers for Birth Control(CBC) or, Obsterics, Gynecology, and Abortion Center(OBGYNAC).
"Ambassador, the monument that would be arisen from such a place would not be able to be adequately described by the word 'center.' No, such a hub deserves a spectacular name - hence, Abortionplex."
by Separatist Peoples » Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:21 pm
Great Aethernia wrote:Morover wrote:"Ambassador, the monument that would be arisen from such a place would not be able to be adequately described by the word 'center.' No, such a hub deserves a spectacular name - hence, Abortionplex."
My friend, while i commend and applaud your bravery and spirit to help create such advances, i feel like i should ask this question: Would you risk another schism in the WA? Are you prepared for the backfire that it may bring? While i do support this resolution, i would not dare to cause another schism in the body of WA since my country had just been estabilished not too long ago. How can someone as green as me dare to stir up a maelstrom knowing that i will doom my fellow leaders and their people in the process?
Forgive me of my insolence, i felt like i have overstepped my bounds here.
by United Massachusetts » Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:26 pm
Separatist Peoples wrote:Great Aethernia wrote:
My friend, while i commend and applaud your bravery and spirit to help create such advances, i feel like i should ask this question: Would you risk another schism in the WA? Are you prepared for the backfire that it may bring? While i do support this resolution, i would not dare to cause another schism in the body of WA since my country had just been estabilished not too long ago. How can someone as green as me dare to stir up a maelstrom knowing that i will doom my fellow leaders and their people in the process?
Forgive me of my insolence, i felt like i have overstepped my bounds here.
"Ambassador, I assure you that those who might reject the WA over this will not be missed, and do not number near the army they wish us to believe."
Morover wrote:United Massachusetts wrote:IC + OOC: "Or perhaps the proposing delegation wished to pass the most obscenely anti-fetal-rights resolution possible. Regardless of our stances on its legality, the Delegation from United Massachusetts believes abortion ought not to be trivialized -- it is a serious matter and a painful decision for many mothers. Resolutions like this seek to trivialize a serious societal tragedy, namely the perverse societal standards that effectively force mothers to allow the death of their own children. No mother should be put in that situation, and even if we believe abortion ought to be accessible, we shouldn't trivialize the real pain that abortion causes.
"Abortionplex is not trivializing of the issue at hand unless one makes it so."
by The Sladerstan » Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:34 pm
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