[DEFEATED] Commend 00000 A World Power

[Yokiria]

AWP has some decent achievements. If we're being picky, there's no single achievement that's really amazing here, but it's a decent body of work over several years. NES is right that it's a relative backwater, but I love the the relative backwaters; the unsung heroes of the story. I also believe Cormac is right about the back-patting, but back-patting in the SC doesn't bother me if the target of the proposal is deserving, which I believe this one just barely is.

Tentatively voting FOR.

Looks like I'm in the minority, though. This is getting crushed early.

[United States of Americanas]

AWP has some decent achievements. If we're being picky, there's no single achievement that's really amazing here, but it's a decent body of work over several years. NES is right that it's a relative backwater, but I love the the relative backwaters; the unsung heroes of the story. I also believe Cormac is right about the back-patting, but back-patting in the SC doesn't bother me if the target of the proposal is deserving, which I believe this one just barely is.

Tentatively voting FOR.

Looks like I'm in the minority, though. This is getting crushed early.

I’m voting for. This is getting hammered because people don’t know that IP addresses are as public as house addresses on the side of a driveway mailbox. Someone drives by your house they see you they know who you are.

If you are worried about your IP address you shouldn’t be. If you’re on any traditional network there’s a router and a modem involved. They have to not only hack your modem but then they have to figure out how to hack your NAT and find your machine on your network. Not easily done when there’s thousands of machines on the network.

If you’re paranoid get a VPN. If you’re smart, double NAT and use strong passwords on both routers.

[Grubville]

Grubville will be voting against this proposal.

I can't support an act of commendation that appears to me to be making a perfectly run of the mill function of this game into something more important than it is.

Defending and attacking is simply part of the game, commendations for it are unnecessary.

[Kashyyyyyyyk]

Hey what's rogue delegacy?

[Kashyyyyyyyk]

Grubville will be voting against this proposal.

I can't support an act of commendation that appears to me to be making a perfectly run of the mill function of this game into something more important than it is.

Defending and attacking is simply part of the game, commendations for it are unnecessary.

Sure, it's part of the game. But coordinating a defense is, I would argue, above average; international support at that.

[Kuriko]

Hey what's rogue delegacy?

A rogue delegacy is kind of like a rogue operative deal, the nation completely throws the laws and rules of their region out the window and tries to seize power for themselves. Not all rogue delegacies transfer into a coup, which is why there's a distinction.

[The Tejas Regency]

Is there something that I'm missing but why are a lot of defender nations not being supported in the WA?

[Kashyyyyyyyk]

Is there something that I'm missing but why are a lot of defender nations not being supported in the WA?

Yeah I'm wondering that too

[Bormiar]

Is there something that I'm missing but why are a lot of defender nations not being supported in the WA?

I don’t think it’s a grudge. People just don’t like the specific resolutions.

[The Tejas Regency]

I personally support all defenders just because they help stop worse off regions.

[Numero Capitan]

Is there something that I'm missing but why are a lot of defender nations not being supported in the WA?

I don't think its specifically that, although it will be the reason for some peoples votes

There is probably no simple answer, but I think in general the bar is being raised for Commendations - which probably isn't a bad thing - especially if you compare proposals like this with others from five years ago (for example).

Of course there are other things, such as commending a region largely for its actions more than ten years ago (when few are still around who remember them), whether a region that has been overlooked for commendation for over a decade has been overlooked for good reason or not etc.

Plus most regions that are defended don't actually have any idea who it is doing it and raiders often don't even know who they're going toe to toe with.

[North East Somerset]

Seeing as you keep coming back...

*Drops mic

I think you're talking about the guy who rose two ranks out of 25 in the Regional Defence Force in 6 years and then waited until I'd disappeared from the game to do anything in the FRA? (i.e. when we literally didn't care enough at that point to give our representative spot to anyone else)

The self-deception is lovely though Thanks for stopping by

I've, errr, just dusted off some of the ole' archives actually...

Seems like someones been telling a few porkies! Naughty Numero.

Some quality stuff in there. But this is one of my favourite bits, direct quote: "received suggestion I join FRA rangers, with offer from Numero Capitan to walk me through the process."

Like a sort espionage butler, walking enemy spies through their job.

Indeed, contrary to what you said above, not only were you around at the time that Wibblefeet first joined the FRA Cabinet, in April 2011.

But you served personally as Minister for Intelligence in the FRA Cabinet that term. Just read your opening speech, a man of great ability and experience, so you say.

AND you personally nominated and recommended Wibblefeet for his position in Cabinet! Your generosity knows no bounds.

All part of the plan eh... Mum's the word.

[Numero Capitan]

a man of great ability

Still true, don't see your point? If anything I'm more right now

[Lord Dominator]

The spy vs spy argument you two seem to be having here is sickening

[Yokiria]

The spy vs spy argument you two seem to be having here is sickening

The word I would use is "boring".

[Lord Dominator]

The spy vs spy argument you two seem to be having here is sickening

The word I would use is "boring".

Also true

[Zemnaya Svoboda]

"Ambassador, how did this happen? What did we do wrong?"

"What do you mean?" asked a weary Elena Petrovna.

"Commend 00000 A World Power was defeated 12,071 votes to 2,400. How could this happen?"

"Oh Vasjka, I don't know. Maybe it was the break in ties between interregional defenderdom and defenderism with the ascendancy of paramilitary defenders like the Wardens and the League, maybe the fall of the Alliance Defense Network, maybe the withdrawal of the WA gnomes from enforcing rules against region destruction." She sighed. "It's been a long time."

She looked at her aide's glum expression. "Maybe it's not that bad. I think this resolution was ill-served by its specific and somewhat frightening reference to Internet Protocol addresses. Technobabble sounds like black wizardry to many. It's not like the Security Council is condemning defending and commending griefing, now, after all."

"Do you think the authors will try again?"

"I don't know that, either."

[Sargon Reman]

"Ambassador, how did this happen? What did we do wrong?"

"What do you mean?" asked a weary Elena Petrovna.

"Commend 00000 A World Power was defeated 12,071 votes to 2,400. How could this happen?"

"Oh Vasjka, I don't know. Maybe it was the break in ties between interregional defenderdom and defenderism with the ascendancy of paramilitary defenders like the Wardens and the League, maybe the fall of the Alliance Defense Network, maybe the withdrawal of the WA gnomes from enforcing rules against region destruction." She sighed. "It's been a long time."

She looked at her aide's glum expression. "Maybe it's not that bad. I think this resolution was ill-served by its specific and somewhat frightening reference to Internet Protocol addresses. Technobabble sounds like black wizardry to many. It's not like the Security Council is condemning defending and commending griefing, now, after all."

"Do you think the authors will try again?"

"I don't know that, either."

Your second to last line read what is on my mind. I shall attempt this again some point in the future. Thank you to those who supported the proposal, this will not be the last that is heard of it.