[PASSED] Repeal "Liberate Aurelia"

[Kuriko]

The only way to truly save an RMB before refounding is with a tool, which I highly doubt you have or are capable of making unless you have a background in RL coding.

Yeah It's called the Wayback Machine.

The Wayback Machine only rarely ever catches a region, and almost never has a complete RMB up to today's date.

[Lord Dominator]

Yeah It's called the Wayback Machine.

The Wayback Machine only rarely ever catches a region, and almost never has a complete RMB up to today's date.

I do believe it has options to have it catch a page, though as individual webpages of course.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

Voted Against.

"After consulting with Atlantica, who wishes to password the region in order to one day refound it and create a new community after saving the old information, I have drafted a repeal for the liberation on Aurelia."

Oh yeah, I'm sure they're going to revive it. Eventually. Just like Haven.

Might as well just give it to the gameplayers tbh, they'd do better with it than the usual regional RP cliques.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

Voted Against.

"After consulting with Atlantica, who wishes to password the region in order to one day refound it and create a new community after saving the old information, I have drafted a repeal for the liberation on Aurelia."

Oh yeah, I'm sure they're going to revive it. Eventually. Just like Haven.

Might as well just give it to the gameplayers tbh, they'd do better with it than the usual regional RP cliques.

nvm the absolute shitshow that is the RMB has convinced me they're no better

nvm that was a different bunch of people who were supposedly "liberating" it.

[Wallenburg]

This is now at Vote.

[Draganisia]

Personally I see no reason to vote against this.

The liberation served it's purpose so now that the region is back in the hands of it's natives it is time to repeal it.

I'm voting for it.

[Christus Imperat]

If you voted for the "Liberation" for the reasons Kuriko espoused, it is in your interests to vote for this resolution.

Since those who tried to resurrect Aurelia now are a part of another region, Christus Imperat has no reason to be against this resolution. However, Christus Imperat was against the past "Liberation", and has no reason to help Kuriko's mission to be completed.

As such, Christus Imperat will Abstain from voting. The damage is done either way. We are not saboteurs, but we cannot enact what we find just by voting in either direction.

[Zironie]

I agree with the majority, but I only have one problem. What’s to say after we leave, they won’t get taken over again by the same nation. I agree with leaving the region, but lock it’s borders from everyone who’s not in the region, plus the difficult nation.

[Neo-Indo]

We agree to liberation, now we agree to repeal that, nice

[Bormiar]

We agree to liberation, now we agree to repeal that, nice

The region has been restored to native control because of the liberation, now the liberation has served its purpose and must be “retired” (repealed is misleading in this scenario) so that the natives may have full sovereignty over their region and its defense.

[Kuriko]

I agree with the majority, but I only have one problem. What’s to say after we leave, they won’t get taken over again by the same nation. I agree with leaving the region, but lock it’s borders from everyone who’s not in the region, plus the difficult nation.

The point of repealing the liberation is so that we may put up a password to keep raiders and imperialists out of it.

[Xeknos]

So keeping the RMB wasn't the point of the original resolution. As was apparent to all who looked into this. It was a snuffed nation who abandoned the region over three years ago who just didn't want someone else to refound it, even if they had more recent initiative in the region.

Auraelia exists already, with a founder, for those who are interested in what I would have made of Aurelia, had it not been for the corrupt and imperialist "liberation".

This is some high quality invader salt. In the interest of mining more, and noting that the previous resolution has served its intended purpose, the Federation of Xeknos votes in favor of this resolution.

[Marxist Germany]

OOC: If this passes by the current margin it would be the largest FOR margin in the history of the WA. Good job Kuriko.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

OOC: If this passes by the current margin it would be the largest FOR margin in the history of the WA. Good job Kuriko.

Very disappointing.

[Concrete Slab]

OOC: If this passes by the current margin it would be the largest FOR margin in the history of the WA. Good job Kuriko.

Very disappointing.

Not to the nations in the largest majority of WA history...

[Kaystein]

I have a question concerning your post OP.

What kind of community does united provinces of atlantica want to make?

[Superbunny]

OOC: If this passes by the current margin it would be the largest FOR margin in the history of the WA. Good job Kuriko.

Very disappointing.

You have so far provided only one example for your Against vote, and even with your evidence provided, it is not up to the WA to decide what the owners of a region want to do with it after a refounding.

[Liberal Federal Republic Germany]

So keeping the RMB wasn't the point of the original resolution. As was apparent to all who looked into this. It was a snuffed nation who abandoned the region over three years ago who just didn't want someone else to refound it, even if they had more recent initiative in the region.

Auraelia exists already, with a founder, for those who are interested in what I would have made of Aurelia, had it not been for the corrupt and imperialist "liberation".

"REEE REEE I DIDNT GET THE REGION I WANTED TO STEAL, REEE REEE, EVIL IMPERIALISTS!" Dude you still have absolutely no right to steal someone else's region, simple as that.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

Very disappointing.

You have so far provided only one example for your Against vote, and even with your evidence provided, it is not up to the WA to decide what the owners of a region want to do with it after a refounding.

My argument is a very good one.

[Kaystein]

You have so far provided only one example for your Against vote, and even with your evidence provided, it is not up to the WA to decide what the owners of a region want to do with it after a refounding.

My argument is a very good one.

I may have a better argument to add for the 'against' camp. Check where the united provinces of atlantica resided. It's not belgium.

[Kuriko]

My argument is a very good one.

I may have a better argument to add for the 'against' camp. Check where the united provinces of atlantica resided. It's not belgium.

Which region are you referring to that should make people vote against the repeal?

I have a question concerning your post OP.

What kind of community does united provinces of atlantica want to make?

More than likely the same kind it had before, a role playing community.

[Kaystein]

I may have a better argument to add for the 'against' camp. Check where the united provinces of atlantica resided. It's not belgium.

Which region are you referring to that should make people vote against the repeal?

I have a question concerning your post OP.

What kind of community does united provinces of atlantica want to make?

More than likely the same kind it had before, a role playing community.

I can't tell if your question is sincere, or if you're playing dumb. It's A bit of a moot point as I wanted to bring up this topic anyway.

The federation of anarchist communes

read the pinned dispatches there, or specifically two dispatches.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1128149
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1128150

I don't know how you feel about it, but when somebody suggests torching logging machinery as a response to deforestation, advocating for property destruction, or really anything covered in the writing as 'direct action'.. I become concerned.

[Marxist Germany]

OOC: What?

[Fauxia]

Which region are you referring to that should make people vote against the repeal?


More than likely the same kind it had before, a role playing community.

I can't tell if your question is sincere, or if you're playing dumb. It's A bit of a moot point as I wanted to bring up this topic anyway.

The federation of anarchist communes

read the pinned dispatches there, or specifically two dispatches.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1128149
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1128150

I don't know how you feel about it, but when somebody suggests torching logging machinery as a response to deforestation, advocating for property destruction, or really anything covered in the writing as 'direct action'.. I become concerned.

Unless stuff has changed in the last, well, whatever it is since I last logged on, Atlantica’s been on the side of defenders for quite a long time.

Atlantica won’t refound the region to make some ebil communist reiteration or something.

[Lord Dominator]

So keeping the RMB wasn't the point of the original resolution. As was apparent to all who looked into this. It was a snuffed nation who abandoned the region over three years ago who just didn't want someone else to refound it, even if they had more recent initiative in the region.

Auraelia exists already, with a founder, for those who are interested in what I would have made of Aurelia, had it not been for the corrupt and imperialist "liberation".

This is some high quality invader salt. In the interest of mining more, and noting that the previous resolution has served its intended purpose, the Federation of Xeknos votes in favor of this resolution.

Of a very tiny chunk of raiders, most of us don't care

I have a question concerning your post OP.

What kind of community does united provinces of atlantica want to make?

If I had to guess, one with a founder