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Bhang Bhang Duc
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:40 am

Praeceps wrote:
Nord-Norden wrote: The region has had no contact with Nephmir for 3 years.

Uh huh. Sure.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=36955698

Don’t you just love it when that happens.
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Postby Peoples Free Republic of Romania » Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:29 pm

Praeceps wrote:
Nord-Norden wrote: The region has had no contact with Nephmir for 3 years.

Uh huh. Sure.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=36955698

you do realize that message is from a few days ago?

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Postby Kuriko » Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:35 pm

Peoples Free Republic of Romania wrote:

you do realize that message is from a few days ago?

You reply to Praetor, but I see you have no reply to me. Interesting....
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Postby Praeceps » Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:42 pm

Peoples Free Republic of Romania wrote:

you do realize that message is from a few days ago?

That's my point? It directly contradicts Nord's statement that the region has had no contact with Nephmir for 3 years.
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Postby Nord-Norden » Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:57 pm

Praeceps wrote:
Peoples Free Republic of Romania wrote:you do realize that message is from a few days ago?

That's my point? It directly contradicts Nord's statement that the region has had no contact with Nephmir for 3 years.

It does no such thing. It's been three years. He came back less than a week ago. That fact contradicts the lies of the resolution

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Postby Boda » Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:41 pm

Hey auralia. Can you just face the music? You raided aurelia and attempted to refound it as a trophy. Lying and doing shady stuff does not help your case at all.
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Postby Nord-Norden » Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:56 pm

Boda wrote:Hey auralia. Can you just face the music? You raided aurelia and attempted to refound it as a trophy. Lying and doing shady stuff does not help your case at all.

My approach has been openness and honesty throughout this illegitimate process, at least attempt factual criticism.

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Postby Concrete Slab » Fri Nov 22, 2019 4:41 pm

Peoples Free Republic of Romania wrote:

you do realize that message is from a few days ago?

Also, are we going to talk about how you replied?
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=36956014

Very interesting.
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Postby Nord-Norden » Fri Nov 22, 2019 4:48 pm

Concrete Slab wrote:
Peoples Free Republic of Romania wrote:you do realize that message is from a few days ago?

Also, are we going to talk about how you replied?
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=36956014

Very interesting.

Wow, we do in character honouring of the head of our religion, after three years. You really nailed us on that one.

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Postby Concrete Slab » Fri Nov 22, 2019 4:53 pm

Nord-Norden wrote:
Concrete Slab wrote:Also, are we going to talk about how you replied?
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=36956014

Very interesting.

Wow, we do in character honouring of the head of our religion, after three years. You really nailed us on that one.

Nord-Norden wrote:
Praeceps wrote:That's my point? It directly contradicts Nord's statement that the region has had no contact with Nephmir for 3 years.

It does no such thing. It's been three years. He came back less than a week ago. That fact contradicts the lies of the resolution

*coughs*
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Postby Nord-Norden » Fri Nov 22, 2019 4:55 pm

Concrete Slab wrote:
Nord-Norden wrote:Wow, we do in character honouring of the head of our religion, after three years. You really nailed us on that one.

Nord-Norden wrote:It does no such thing. It's been three years. He came back less than a week ago. That fact contradicts the lies of the resolution

*coughs*

Do you need a cough drop?

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Postby Concrete Slab » Fri Nov 22, 2019 5:00 pm

Nord-Norden wrote:
Concrete Slab wrote:
*coughs*

Do you need a cough drop?

Yeah, that'd be great thanks. *takes the cough drop, wondering why you decided to enter a rp instead of responding to my proof of your contradiction*
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Postby Kalmartveir » Fri Nov 22, 2019 5:02 pm

Concrete Slab wrote:
Nord-Norden wrote:Do you need a cough drop?

Yeah, that'd be great thanks. *takes the cough drop, wondering why you decided to enter a rp instead of responding to my proof of your contradiction*

The statements are far from contradictory, they confirm the same reality. The region was entered over 200 days ago. Neph came back 5 days ago.

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Postby Concrete Slab » Fri Nov 22, 2019 5:03 pm

Kalmartveir wrote:
Concrete Slab wrote:Yeah, that'd be great thanks. *takes the cough drop, wondering why you decided to enter a rp instead of responding to my proof of your contradiction*

The statements are far from contradictory, they confirm the same reality. The region was entered over 200 days ago. Neph came back 5 days ago.

Um, no. The one post said they had no contact with him. In the next point, one of you acknowledged him as "lord.
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Postby Kalmartveir » Fri Nov 22, 2019 5:07 pm

Concrete Slab wrote:
Kalmartveir wrote:The statements are far from contradictory, they confirm the same reality. The region was entered over 200 days ago. Neph came back 5 days ago.

Um, no. The one post said they had no contact with him. In the next point, one of you acknowledged him as "lord.

One said we'd had no contact with him for three years. Which is true. Then he came back less than a week ago.

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Postby Concrete Slab » Fri Nov 22, 2019 5:08 pm

Kalmartveir wrote:
Concrete Slab wrote:Um, no. The one post said they had no contact with him. In the next point, one of you acknowledged him as "lord.

One said we'd had no contact with him for three years. Which is true. Then he came back less than a week ago.

Mhm. Then you called him "lord" and gleefully welcomed his return.
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Postby Kalmartveir » Fri Nov 22, 2019 6:01 pm

Concrete Slab wrote:
Kalmartveir wrote:One said we'd had no contact with him for three years. Which is true. Then he came back less than a week ago.

Mhm. Then you called him "lord" and gleefully welcomed his return.

Which has also been explained to those with enough surplus energy to spend some time actually reading what we say.

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Postby Praeceps » Fri Nov 22, 2019 6:08 pm

If you bothered to read Nord's post, you'd see that it says "no contact with Nephmir for 3 years". It does not say "prior to 5 days ago, there had been no contact with Nephmir for 3 years".

Just another proven area in which your region has advanced wrong information on top of accusing the proposal of being "illegal" without providing what rule is being broken.
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Postby Kalmartveir » Fri Nov 22, 2019 6:27 pm

Praeceps wrote:If you bothered to read Nord's post, you'd see that it says "no contact with Nephmir for 3 years". It does not say "prior to 5 days ago, there had been no contact with Nephmir for 3 years".

Just another proven area in which your region has advanced wrong information on top of accusing the proposal of being "illegal" without providing what rule is being broken.

The not in contact part is relevant as it is suggested we were in any way directed. We've been in the region for well over 200 days, Nephmir has been away for three years and back for 5 days. Can you explain to me how I lied then? Lying in a resolution renders it illegal, which is done here, and makes this so.

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Postby Refuge Isle » Fri Nov 22, 2019 6:48 pm

Kalmartveir wrote:Lying in a resolution renders it illegal, which is done here, and makes this so.


Actually, the only rules regarding SC proposals are here: viewtopic.php?f=24&t=8809

Accuracy is not one of them, but it would appear that the facts aren't on your side in any event.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Nov 23, 2019 2:50 am

Kalmartveir wrote:Lying in a resolution renders it illegal, which is done here, and makes this so.

No it doesn’t and no amount of whining will change that. You really should read the rules, but to make it easy for you the section about “factual inaccuracies” is best summarised by this quote from Retired Moderator (and SC expert) Crazy Girl.

Crazy girl wrote:As long as it follows the SC rules, basically...we don't give a damn. It's up to the delegates and voters to decide if the proposal is full of bs or not.
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Kuriko » Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:04 pm

Liberate Aurelia was passed 12,414 votes to 2,236.
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Postby Refuge Isle » Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:20 pm

Kuriko wrote:
Liberate Aurelia was passed 12,414 votes to 2,236.

Congratulations, Kuriko.

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:12 am

Kuriko wrote:
Liberate Aurelia was passed 12,414 votes to 2,236.

Congratulations Kuriko and Aurelia.

Good to see Auralia has been booted from the region as well.
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Nord-Norden » Sun Nov 24, 2019 8:39 am

The long death of Aurelia will begin anew, but hope rests in the region Auraelia, for all those who want the safety of a founder

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